ESPN_BigTen: RT @wilnerhotline: Scott said he called NCAA prez Emmert after tOSU news last week; Emmert told him "misperception in media about finality"
"Just when I thought I was out....they pulled me back in"
it isn't over until the NCAA officially slaps tsio on the wrist.
Maybe that man is more talented than we give him credit.
I honestly don't know what to do with all this popcorn.....
If you like hot stuff grab a bag of Hot Cheetos and dump into the bowl of popcorn and shake it up. My new favorite snack.
mix in sour patch kids and shake it up. I do it every time I go to the movies. A sweet and sour surprise in salty goodness.
Try it, you wont be disappointed.
Wouldn't all the sourpatch kids just fall to the bottom though, leaving you with half-melted sourpatch kids that have lost all the sour goodness?
Maybe not if you just give it a quick, gentle shake right when you put them in.
The popcorn isn't hot enough to melt them. Just a light shake to get them mixed in. They are slightly more concentrated in the bottom, but that's just motivation to stuff your face.
I've bought into the finality misperception.
That was my intention, ha!, I really don't know if I should throw all those popcorn boxes away or keep them to enjoy an unlikely meltdown =/
Yeah it is too light to throw at my TV it just makes it half way and falls harmlessly on the floor or my golden retriever. She likes popcorn.
I'm not getting my hopes up.. I'm not expecting much, so that if they get hit hard, it's a pleasant surprise
This past week, NCAA gave some information regarding their position on the allegations in the original notice given to OSU. There have been no formal allegations regarding the cars, golfing, etc. OSU has only responded to those original allegations, and the NCAA has basically said that they agree that the tat-gate problem didn't extend beyond Tressel. That doesn't mean that there won't be a second notice issued by the NCAA for the additional issues. We'll just have to wait. It's just like when the NCAA declared Cam Newton eligible. It doesn't mean they've ceased the investigation.
OSU has never received a notice on all the Dennis Talbott stuff. I really hope that OSU is that stupid because they have admitted to being a Repeat Offender. Anything new is really going to kill them.
I hope that Emmert is sincere, I sent him an email in March (copied some media and Robinson from Yahoo actually commended me it) and sent another last week. But right now, I don't have much faith in the NCAA.
I've sent Emmert two letters, too, pointing out that they now have a great opportunity to prove they aren't the clueless, impotent dolts everyone outside of their office thinks they are.
They have the evidence.
I'm not sure about the context of that quote-isn't he saying that the misperception was the SI articles and things that people perceived were happening that actually were not?
The key aspect is at the end of the quote when he says "about finality." To me that implies that the misperception is that the media saying that the NCAA is done investigating, not the other allegations made by SI/media.
I heard from a reliable source that some definitive information will be made available to the public on August 12th.
Let's just stay buckled in until then, hmmkay?
It's a sign as that's my birthday. Maybe the NCAA will give me a nice present....
Don't let mikoyan down on his 63rd birthday!
Now I know what a Sparty feels like.
We are obsessed. This is getting sad. We need to beat these guys ASAP.
As much as I would like them to lose to scholarships it would almost be better if they get off light. Maybe a 2 year bowl ban and we beat them fair and square on the field and not when they are handicapped by sanctions. If we beat them when they are being "disciplined" they will just use that as an excuse.
I wanna knock your ass out when you are ready to fight not when you are half asleep.
Puh-leeeze. have you talked to a sparty lately? They're fraking unhinged. My brother in law thinks they're going to the super bowl this year, I swear.
Mark Emmert has got to know that they're going to need tough action to stop the bleeding. Even if its standardizing the penalty process.
I think people are reading too much into it. The NCAA hasn't made a final decision yet (heck, they haven't even met the COI yet). That's all Emmert is likely saying.
The Summary Judgement was a data point. One that could be interpreted positively for OSU. But as Emmert is saying, it's not the final judgement.
I agree. What he is saying is basically the equivalent of a weather man saying partly cloudy with a chance of rain.
Is that the tweet relates to a conversation from Larry Scott - Pac -10 commish - to Emmert.
I've long thought that if the NCAA used an advocacy system, OSU would be more likely to get hammered. (Not saying the advocacy system would be great, but just pointing out that the NCAA has odd incentives when (i) encouraging it's member insitutions to self-police; (ii) investigating its own; and (iii) punishing its own). But it's not as though peer institutions (UM, etc.) would ever want to "prosecute" one of their own...
The Pac-10, though, given that it's flagship member was hammered by the NCAA, does have an interest in seeing OSU get hit, too. (Big ten members do not - yes, not even Brandon would want OSU carpet bombed). So, if nothing else, it's interesting to see that there is pressure from an interested member party for OSU to get hit.
Ahh!! Not so fast my friend. It is now the Pac-12!!
He is pressuring Emmert to hammer OSU..Nice.
"You'll know when we're finished."
When the NCAA fails to dish out a Failure to Monitor claim on those earlier charges, I have no faith in them. They could still redeem themselves, but I think it's unlikely.
I hope this drags on, the longer it goes then the higher the chances that osu is not cooperating. We all know how much the NCAA liked when USC did that. Also, the longer it drags on means the longer a cloud of uncertainty hover over the campus, this will be off-putting to recruits and coach replacements.
but in a Page 2 article/flowchart they call TP the dogs of society. Link
Pretty funny flow chart but I found that especially entertaining.
Yeah, that's a pretty funny flowchart
Do you hate America? ------>YES------>Sign Favre
the benefit of the doubt here and praying that they are indeed smarter than they appear. But I keep getting that nagging feeling that they are going to let TSIO off the hook with a slap on the wrist. When they do that, the cheating floodgates (which are probably already wide open) will break off their hinges.
The NCAA has been corrupted by money. If they really believed in "student athletes", then they would make sure all the kids got a degree and no one could opt out before their senior year (or their degree) was over. We all know this is a joke, it just amazes me that they have convinced themselves that this is a working system.
How is the NCAA supposed to make sure all athletes get a degree? Not everyone graduates from college, and athletes often have a weaker academic background than the rest of the student body. Are you suggesting that the NCAA should permit academic fraud to make sure these guys get bogus degrees?
I think he's indicating some type of policy to prevent them from going pro early, not from dropping out.
That policy would have to come from the NFL, not the NCAA. The NCAA can't prohibit a kid form dropping out of school, and they can't dictate what the NFL does in drafting players or signing free agents.
College athletics is not the military. The NCAA could never make student athletes stay for 4 years.
I agree with the sentiment, but not the solution. What if schools were rewarded with additional scholarships for having a higher graduation rate or something along those lines? I suppose they would just find a way to fudge those results then too.
Make the scholarships good for 4 years + 1....if the a student athlete leaves school before the conclusion of the 4th year, the scholarship still counts against the university's limit. Increase the maximum scholarship number to 100. If a student leaves school for any reason, they still count as though they are still on scholarship. Could solve many of the medical scholarship/over-signing issues out there, but let's be realistic, it will never happen.
I'll believe it when I see it.
After last week, I've lost the smallest of faith I had in the NCAA.
Tressel left or was forced out, and their current coach has "interim" in his title. Unless Fickell proves to be brilliant, this is going to hurt recruiting and their program in general regardless of whether or not they get additional sanctions.
OSU caught Tressel before he got the chance to fire Gordon Gee and start running the whole school. So give credit where credit is due.
I can't do it anymore. My emotions are drained. I will do my best to forget about it, and if it happens the way we hope, I will wake up one day to a 500-post celebratory thread on the MGoBoard and smile.
Maybe my email to Emmert had an impact. I sent telling him the integrity of the NCAA is a joke if tsio is found to get off easy.
Pryor ruled ineligible for the whole year by OSU so he can enter supplemental. Disassociated from program for 5 years. Obviously there's a good chance he wanted this, but maybe he's immature enough to now want to spill? Here's hoping.
You mean he won't get to graduate with his classmates? That sucks...
he can still go to classes and complete his degree researching research but has to stay away from the athletic program, can't use the facilities to beef up for the RoughRiders, can't score any sideline passes, etc. Bit different from the disassociation U of M had to do with the basketball players.
and get nothing but a slap on the wrist - then the NCAA is doomed as an enforcement entity.
Head coaches and AD's are responsible for self-policing the activities of their student athletes. Remember, tsio led the nation in the number of self-reported NCAA violations during tressel's tenure .. this was NOT by accident. This was concieved so that the NCAA believed that tsio was always on the up and up, but IMO this was simply tressle's method to get away with whatever he wanted. tressle's lying at tsio goes all the way back to Maurice Clarett (and Youngstown State pre-tsio).
The tats and cars have been there since tressle started. Most people think the Ohio BMV cleared them of wrongdoing .... nope, just found that all tax was paid for the cars as they were sold. Nothing to do with players receiving the use of cars ...
Bottom line ... tsio is in serious trouble. They ARE a repeat offender. And this was the head coach ... not some out of control booster. The NCAA has no choice on this one ... this should make USC look like after-school detention.
If SI hadnt wrote that article Osu would be getting crushed right now. All the pieces would still be on the table, Tp, Tress..they would have to answer to the evidence without knowing all of it. it was a huge heads up for the administration. They got the jump on a strategy to limit the consequences. as long as their are scollies lost I'll be satified.