Urban just did this so that if he commits to us post-barbecue, it doesn't count as a head-to-head victory for Hoke. He's a sly one, that Urban.
OSU no longer recruiting Derrick Green
Probably Auburn. Wouldn't have seen much time with DunnBall anyways.
Because Dunn has proven himself an unstoppable force already? Sorry, not trying to be a jerk but just wondering if Dunn is slated to break out this season. Doesn't he have to surpass Jordan Hall, Rod Smith, and Carlos Hyde this year?
He will then say he beats "snake oil" Kiffin.
I'll be pissed if Auburn grabs both of our remaining running back prospects. They already nabbed one...
According to Tremendous, Green will be spending 3 days in Ann Arbor now. His Friday was supposed to be spent in Columbus, but now it will be spent in the MUCH nicer Ann Arbor. That bodes well for us, I think.
Wow, that's great news. I know he wants to meet Hoke and this gives him ample time to get a feel for the rest of the coaching staff.
Any idea if his parents are joining him? That would be huge. How's the weather going to be?
Mid 80s all weekend, isolated storms Friday, all sun apart from those storms. Should be perfect BBQ weather.
If ever there was a time to impress a guy from the south this would be the summer to do it considering michigan has had some of the hottest temps in the country this year. Miserable for me driving in a shirt and tie with broken ac but these kids seem to like it.
Been there. It sucks. And mine is faltering.
Per an interview on Tremendous Green will be in Michigan Friday and will be spending 3 days in Ann Arbor. This could be the big weekend the coaches needed to land him.
Yep, if we don't emerge this weekend as a leader with Green saying all kinds of wonderful things about Michigan and Hoke, then our chances are slim and none.
This is it. We have our chance at the plate this weekend and need a HR.
Michigan has a "very legitimate chance" with Green. He also said that it was possible that something could happen at the BBQ--this wasn't in direct reference to Green, but Green certainly seems like the most likely recruit for him to be referring to.
So just one more piece of evidence that our chances here may be better than expected, even if there's still a ton of competition.
David Dawson last week told us to buckle up, and then he said wait a few weeks. Come bbq time, it will be two weeks. Green and Dawson are good buds. TomVH says something could happen at the bbq. Are the stars aligned?
If not, Dawson still owes us a commit.
If anything, it'll probably be the first verbal commits for the class of 2014.
Was never a committable offer anyway.
It's right on par with the GIF of Denard and Roundtree at the basketball game for me.
I go into every HELLO post knowing those 2 things will be there, and they're still awesome.
UM needs two quality RBs in this class. Shallman is a FB all the way, no matter what he thinks. Let Smith and Green duke it out for PT.
Shallman may not be a 25 carry-per-game back, but tell me you wouldn't want him in at the goal line, or up 10 with 8 minutes to go.
If you watched Jehuu Caulcrick at Michigan State, that's how I envision Shallman.
Jehuu Caulcrick was a bowling ball!
His name brings back bad memories.
Michigan beat him every time he lined up across the field (and his redshirt year, too, for good measure).
I made the same comparison to Caulcrick with a friend the other day. I would not be disappointed at all if that turned out to be the case. He would be a great asset to the offense.
Shallman = Aaron Shea
But that's the extent of the possible similarity between him and Caulcrick. Shallman is listed as 6-3 and 245, and in his videos I've watched he runs pretty upright and looks somewhat slow-footed for a RB. Running upright at that height is frequently not a good thing at the goal line. Caulcrick was 6-0/255, and ran with a lot of body lean and had pretty quick feet for a guy that size. I still think Shallman might be better suited to play TE, especially if he gets any taller.
Hillis, Hillis is Shallman!
someone's name on it since my Tim Couch jersey.......never again.
on the bright side - if Shallman happens to have a breakout year, we don't have to worry about the Madden curse. Hurray!
Reminds me of Bane from the Dark Knight Rises right there.
I was thinking role more than style.
Does it matter what the coaches think?
I would not want to run behind that line !
Was trolling ElevenWarriors today...the general consensus was that although Green just got back from a visit to SEC country, that OSU was clearly the leader for him...funny houw things change in a few hours.
They think they're the leader for any player that lives in Ohio or expresses any interest in OSU. ElevenWarriors still disagrees with Galileo...the sun revolves around Columbus, OH.
But that's not an unreasonable conclusion for fans at 11W to draw, considering that they are the dominate program in the state. We often assume the same about kids who grew up in Michigan.
I'm on there all day and the general consensus is that we've always been in it, but that he's been playing the recruiting game too much to be sure. The one thing people did hang on as a good sign was that he told an 11W writer that he was trying to get looks for his teammates. No matter what, though, the kid grew up an OSU fan while idolizing Eddie George, so I'm sure he was bummed.
Any word on why Ohio is going in a different direction? I'm always curious when a kid is a consensus 4 star/5 star and has interest in the school. First thought was his shortcoming as a pass catcher out of the backfield, which Urban puts quite a bit of stock in...
A lot of it has to do with space and current depth chart. Similar to when you guys told Anzalone you were full at LB. We have a number of power backs on the roster already and only about 4-5 spaces left in the class at most. We still are targeting 1-2 LBs, 1-2 WRs, OT, and probably a safety (hopefully Vonn Bell). A lot of Buckeye fans are hoping we wrap up with some combo of the following:
S Vonn Bell
OT Dennis Finley
LB Mike Mitchell
LB/DE Tyquan Lewis
WR James Quick
WR Shelton Gibson
WR Devon Allen
(I'm not going to throw Foster in here as I just don't think it's happening)
ATH Chris Worley
There are a couple other WRs that I think may end up being in, but the three I listed are the most talked about. A lot of fans are hoping that if OT Dorian Johnson decommits from PSU, we'll get a shot at him. With all of these players still on the board, there just isn't a need or spot for Green.
Are you sure Urban isn't saving the rest of those slots for DE recruits?
Thanks for the info, BTW.
As a side note, but more than worth mentioning, Derrick Green's parents will be with him in Ann Arbor this weekend as well.
Honestly, I'm very omptimistic that we could see a commit. He's kept up in his top group for so long despite never actually meeting Hoke that there is some very serious interest. Factor in the extended visit with Hoke, the great atmosphere, and the fact that his parents are coming too, and the stars might be aligning on this one.
Any ideas on why OSU decided to go in a different direction? Seems pretty odd to have the kid come to camp and then suddenly decide he's not for them.
Ezekiel Elliott (RB) will be OSU's highest rated offensive player by NSD. Between that and having Rod Smith (RS Soph), Dunn, and Ball on the roster running back probably has more depth than any unit other than the defensive line.
This is also where the scholarship reductions affect their recruiting. Even down three scholarships, they don't have space to take a "luxury" like Green when they already have Elliot in this class and the backs in the classes ahead of him.
There are a few redshirt juniors again that will not be back next year. This pushes the number of openings to 23. Attrition of 1-2 is very likely between now and signing day. I still feel that Michigan will end up with 24 recruits in this class, but will probably have openings for 25 (they'll likely bank one for next year IMO).
That's not to saying that this class will simply be finalized, as much as I hope not, as it gets closer to signing day some kids make very rash decisions and switch. We'll see how it all ends up this year, but my prediction is 24
Mike Jones is the only unrenewed fifth guy. Who else were you counting?
Hey are we allowed to cut players like Alabama? This would really help making some room for these #1 recruits. Any Alabama fans that read this, feel free to offer some insight.