OSU Fball New Starters 2016
A cursory glance at the OSU depth chart shows OSU 2016 is going to look a lot like UM 2017 in terms of major losses on the lines, wide receiver corps, and defense in total - but (most likely) bringing back a good QB*.
http://www.ourlads.com/ncaa-football-depth-charts/depth-chart/ohio-stat…
*Unless it's Taysom Hill - Discuss man.
OSU has 9 potential EE from the starting ranks (of 22!) - 4 have chosen to leave, 4 TBD, 1 returning. (Not counting Cardale as a starter - he was #10)
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You can still expect OSU - now recruiting almost as well as Bama the past 4 years - to be a very talented squad, especially come November after 3 months of playing together but this certainly makes that trip to Oklahoma ominous and reduces margin for error in many other games esp in October when the team is still finding itsself. It's the right year for a senior heavy Michigan to go into Columbus and end years of anguish. It's a shame Bowling Green graduated its QB because that one had upset alert written all over it.
Bolding all the guys that will be gone or projected to be:
Offense
- WR - Michael Thomas (still deciding but being mocked as the 2nd best WR in most draft boards and very underutilized in that offense)
- WR - Jalin Marshall (still deciding, seems like it would do a lot of good to return but many of his friends from his class are leaving en masse so might help him go)
- ATH - Braxton Miller
- QB - JT Barnett
- RB - Zeke (EE)
- LT - Taylor Decker
- LG - Billy Price
- C - Jake Boren
- RG - Pat Elfein
- RT - Chase Farris
- TE - Nick Varnett
At best it appears OSU will return 4 guys on offense - and if Marshall leaves, 3. QB and 2 guards.
Defense
- DE - Joey Bosa (EE)
- DT - Tommy Schutt
- DT - Joel Hale
- DE - Tyquan Lewis
- LB - Joshua Perry
- LB - Raekwon McMillan
- LB - Darron Lee (EE)
- CB - Gareon Conley
- S - Vonn Bell (potential late 1st/mid 2nd round pick - seems likely to go)
- S - Tyvis Powell (EE)
- CB - Eli Apple (probably could go but not as obvious as Bell - more like a 3rd/4th roundish guy)
At best, OSU would retain 5 guys if both Bell and Apple stay. Probability says Bell at least goes and it would not be a surprise to see both go. That would leave 3 returning starters - 1 at each of the 3 levels of the defense.
Overall there is a chance only 6 starters return as a floor. Best case of 10 would make it one of the least experienced (in terms of starters returning) teams in nation. Of course guys like Hubbard could be quasi starters and should move in without missing a beat but in general it's the year to make hay vs OSU.
January 3rd, 2016 at 1:49 PM ^
Book it. Go Blue!!
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January 3rd, 2016 at 3:44 PM ^
and won't do jack at OSU. Kid probably won't play much in the future.
January 3rd, 2016 at 7:03 PM ^
So everyone reads what I have to say!
January 3rd, 2016 at 7:21 PM ^
Are any of these OLman? Might be tough to generate points with a new OL.
January 3rd, 2016 at 1:51 PM ^
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January 3rd, 2016 at 2:43 PM ^
your username is HateSparty .....
January 3rd, 2016 at 2:24 PM ^
Oh, I get it. Very clever. We don't even care about OSU anymore, guys, because...you know who. Goose joined this board three days after last year's UM-MSU game to make sure we knew this.
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January 3rd, 2016 at 8:31 PM ^
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Churchill: "Franklin, my staff has prepared an in-depth look at Nazi forces in France, Belgium, and Norway, and has game-planned how Germany will deploy them in the first part of 194-
Roosevelt: "Wooooooo! Who cares about Hitler???? What are you, a Nazi-lover? Information is for losers!! USA!! USA!! USA!!"
January 3rd, 2016 at 1:53 PM ^
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January 3rd, 2016 at 2:25 PM ^
At this point, Michigan State is a 10-win team pretty much every year until further notice. You'd think after hitting 10 wins in 5 of the last 6 seasons, people would understand this.
Sure, they lose Cook and some other pieces, but its been that way the last several years. Every year its always "oh, they lose too much from the defense" or "they've lost a stud RB" or "they've lost Narduzzi" or whatever. The system is in place, and they just reload and replace and wins 10 games again. They're not going anywhere.
January 3rd, 2016 at 2:29 PM ^
They went 7-6 the year they had to replace Cousins
January 3rd, 2016 at 5:51 PM ^
MSU has had Cousins and then Cook, both NFL QBs. What are the chances that Mike D'Antoni finds a third QB in a row of that level? Not very good.
MSU will be good as long as Mike D is the HC. But the probablility that the next 5 years will be as good as the past 5 years for MSU is very low.
January 3rd, 2016 at 6:13 PM ^
Hence why he said "5 of the last 6 years"
January 4th, 2016 at 11:06 AM ^
He also said MSU is a 10-win team until further notice. And that while they lose Cook, it's been that way for several year, when it hasn't. They've only lost their starting QB once in those last 6 seasons. See if you can spot a potentially favorable trend...
2010 - 11-2 - Cousins
2011 - 11-2 - Cousins (graduated, drafted rd. 4)
2012 - 7-6 - Maxwell/Cook
2013 - 13-1 - Cook
2014 - 11-2 - Cook
2015 - 12-2 - Cook (graduated, drafted rd.1-3?)
2016 - ?-? - O'Connor/Terry?
January 3rd, 2016 at 2:31 PM ^
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January 4th, 2016 at 12:36 PM ^
Sparty is replacing it's players with more highly recruited versions. The guys today are 1/2 to 1 star high rated on average than the guys coming in 4 years ago.
I don't see MSU winning less than 9 games. They have ND, OSU and UM as potential to probable losses, they should beat everyone else somewhat handily + a BTCG or bowl game.
January 3rd, 2016 at 2:54 PM ^
i don't recall anyone saying that about sparty this year. many thought they had a chance to finish ahead of osu this year; despite all of the osu preseason love.
January 3rd, 2016 at 4:49 PM ^
January 3rd, 2016 at 5:42 PM ^
I thought no they're a 10 win team every year until shown otherwise or Dantonio steps down, which it doesn't look like he plans to do anytime soon.
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January 3rd, 2016 at 9:09 PM ^
They are losing too much and their strength of schedule is getting way harder now that we are finally back on track. Next year, I expect them to drop at least 3 of @ Notre Dame, vs. Wisconsin, vs. UM, and vs. Ohio State. If they do that and win their other games (including a bowl), they get to 10 wins. That's doable, especially with good coaches. Not inevitable, but doable.
January 3rd, 2016 at 1:54 PM ^
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January 3rd, 2016 at 3:25 PM ^
I hope they find ways to win in mediocre fashion. Enjoyable as it would be, your scenario kinda sounds like the perfect narrative for the Buckeyes to be able to claim the status of "Young, upstart underdogs eventually finding themselves" going into The Game. Of course, "Young team defying expectations, eventually runs into veteran wall" does sound fun!
January 3rd, 2016 at 1:55 PM ^
I think the perfect storm is brewing for Michigan to win at both MSU and OSU in 2016. Sure, it's only Harbaugh's second year, and though we have a talented group we aren't the most talented etc, but both MSU and OSU will be losing a lot of players. Michigan is returning numerous players, and I'm very confident that Harbaugh and his staff can develop the young guys. MSU peaked this season, and OSU's season to win should have been this year. With Michigan clearly on the up and up, I'm a lot more optimistic about next year than I was about this year in January 2015.
January 3rd, 2016 at 1:58 PM ^
The conference is ours next year. Guaransheed
January 3rd, 2016 at 2:12 PM ^
Rasheed, man. He's one of my favorite Pistons over the past 15-20 years. Wasn't sure about him when he came here, but he was a great team player.
January 3rd, 2016 at 2:06 PM ^
We have better OSU content than 11 Warriors.
It's only fair I guess, since they have more Michigan content than MGoBlog.
January 3rd, 2016 at 2:18 PM ^
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January 3rd, 2016 at 6:32 PM ^
Interesting. That never happens around here.
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January 3rd, 2016 at 2:12 PM ^
but Miller, Elliot, Barret, Thomas and even Marshal is a lot of guys to go. That is a ship ton of playing time/experience and juking ability. I think it's safe to say their offense cant be as lethal as even the last 3 years. Here's to hoping because I say this stuff every year.
January 3rd, 2016 at 2:13 PM ^
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January 3rd, 2016 at 9:18 PM ^
coaching along the DL was excellent. Coaching in the LB was pretty good. Coaching in the DBs was ok, but wierdly inconsistent.
coaching on special teams was bad
coaching and management of everywhere on offense was VERY bad, especially QB. The coaching at that position absolutely killed us. I think that if Devin Gardner played under Harbaugh, he is probably in the NFL right now.
January 3rd, 2016 at 2:52 PM ^
The recruiting classes have been really great but you see what happens when that talent doesn't come together and play as a team (MSU debacle). JH has proven he is the real deal when it comes to coaching and having his team ready. The Game this November will have an undefeated UM team facing an OSU team with possibly one loss. Rashan will make a big difference. The question mark will be at the QB postion for UM. OSU knows who their starter will be. Oh please, let's not have another controversy!
January 3rd, 2016 at 3:05 PM ^
O'Korn isn't exactly unproven. He played well his freshman year at Houston then struggled after a OC change his 2nd year, leading to his transfer. But a year sitting out learning under Harbaugh, I think he'll be just fine to start next year.
January 3rd, 2016 at 3:10 PM ^
I have to say I completely forgot about O'Korn.