OSU #2, MSU #9

Submitted by massblue on

It seems that OSU will play in the championship game should they win. MSU could go to Rose Bowl. We are off to Gator.

mi93

December 1st, 2013 at 1:11 PM ^

Florida St. and Ohio lose and we have to watch the SEC winner play Alabama.  The thought already sickens me.

I also can't believe the lack of respect for Missouri in all this.  Their only loss was in overtime, to South Carolina, with a true freshman at QB - Franklin didn't dress due to injury.  Outside of the loss and last night's 7-point win, they pounded everyone.  Don't be surprised to see Missouri win next week.

Auburn needed a miracle two weeks ago to beat a deflated Georgia team.

macdaddy

December 1st, 2013 at 1:15 PM ^

The nightmare scenario is upon us. Need the meteor-destroys-the-stadium thing to happen. I can't bring myself to root for either team. Both fanbases are insufferable. We're trapped in the seventh circle of football hell with no way out...

gwkrlghl

December 1st, 2013 at 1:45 PM ^

I agree, there's no upside to the Big Ten Championship game.

  • MSU wins -> 1st Rose Bowl in 25ish years
  • OSU wins -> MNC game appearance and MSU still could make a BCS game

Maybe there's some 0.01% chance that OSU wins like 6-3 and Auburn crushes Mizzou so bad that Auburn jumps OSU, OSU goes to the Rose Bowl, and MSU is left out but that seems unlikely (though the SEC media hypetrain will be gunning for this outcome)

saveferris

December 2nd, 2013 at 6:53 AM ^

Never underestimate the power of the SEC hypetrain.  OSU getting jumped by the SEC champion is not such an unlikely scenario.  Auburn winning convincingly and OSU winning meh definately leaves the door open for OSU falling back to 3rd in the polls and having Spartan fans going full billboard over being shut out of the BCS again.

FrankMurphy

December 1st, 2013 at 1:14 PM ^

The ultimate doomsday scenario would be if Michigan State upsets Ohio State in  the B1G title game and Duke upsets Florida State in the ACC title game. I would be down to throw all of the one-loss coaches into the octagon and have them fight to the death for a spot in the NCG.

rob6reid

December 1st, 2013 at 1:16 PM ^

Really scary thought here, is it possible that: Baylor loses to Texas, Oklahoma state loses to OU, Mizzou loses to Auburn by a shit ton, FSU gets blown out by Duke, and MSU blows out OSU, could MSU conceivably jump to #2 behind Auburn?

LSAClassOf2000

December 1st, 2013 at 1:16 PM ^

Among 60 voters, the #2 vote for Ohio State was fairly uniform - 47 out of the 60 voters placed them second in the poll. The remaining votes were 3rd (9 votes), 4th (2 votes), 5th (1 vote) and a vote from one Drew Sharp, who placed Ohio State 8th on his ballot.

MSU had a fairly split opinion across ballots - 7 votes for 6th, 6 votes for 7th, 7 votes for 8th, 13 votes for 9th and 15 votes for 10th. Below that, a hodgepodge of votes going as low as 16th. 

The FannMan

December 1st, 2013 at 1:45 PM ^

I think that most people, including recruits, already see OSU as an elite or near-elite program.  A trip to the NCG will only confirm what most already believe.  It's not good for us, but I don't think it changes much in terms of recruiting against OSU.

However, State beating OSU and winning the conference helps them a ton.  Despite what they have done over the last few years, they don't get the national respect.  Beating OSU and winning the Ten will move them from the middle of the pack and into the next tier.  It will be talked about all over due to the BCS chaos.   They will go to Rose Bowl as champs, as opposed to chumps if OSU beats them.  

Separately, why does anybody think that FSU/NCAA is going to suspend Winston?  I know that the clouds are gathering, but he is presumed innocent until proven guilty in a trial that isn't going to happen soon.  In contrast, the NCAA had Cam Newton and Pryor and Co. nailed, but let them play.  I just don't see anyway that he misses the NCG.

sammylittle

December 2nd, 2013 at 12:23 AM ^

It is FSU's written policy to suspend any player charged with a felony. There will be pressure on the Tallahassee PD to wait until after the NCG to charge Winston if charges are forthcoming at all.

I am not sure how Florida courts function. I don't know where this case is in process. But if a Grand Jury or District Attorney is preparing to move forward with this case, FSU will have to cope with the loss f their star QB.

gwkrlghl

December 1st, 2013 at 1:47 PM ^

Well...the only plus side I see is that it looks probably that the streak of SEC titles ends this year, likely with Florida State emerging the victor (unless Duke pulls off the upset of the year)

Danwillhor

December 1st, 2013 at 2:00 PM ^

As teams that run open offenses have proven they can score on msu. I've never bought their defense being anything but very good. osu will simply outpace them as the msu offense will likely bog down. That said, I think it will have to be more with Miller's arm as Hyde likely won't go nuts on them. So, it could be close but I kind of feel osu will break it open eventually. Finally, as long as FSU is healthy, does it's job and has their QB they will do to osu what Bama did to nd......just not AS bad lol.

MichiganExile

December 1st, 2013 at 2:28 PM ^

That is completely true, but they are undefeated this year. That should mean something regardless of how they got there. Other teams may have compelling cases, but OSU has handled all of  their business so far. With a showcase game against an excellent MSU defense in the B1G title game an OSU win should probably put them in the BCS championship. 

MichiganExile

December 1st, 2013 at 4:21 PM ^

Plenty of teams have easy schedules and don't go undefeated. OSU can't control the fact that their marquee out of conference game was against a Cal team that just underwent a coaching transition and is not very good. Likewise they can't control the fact that the B1G has been pretty putrid for a few years. All they can control is how they play on Saturdays and they won all of those games. Are they the 2nd best team in America? Probably not. They are, however, one of the three teams in FBS left undefeated. If Michigan were undefeated and possibly looking at getting left out we'd be livid. 

Chinp11

December 1st, 2013 at 10:16 PM ^

I rarely post here or even use my account, but had to respond to this one. First of all, of course they control their OOC schedule. They scheduled a historically mediocre Cal program and 3 cupcakes. That's fine, I suppose, so long as you dominate your schedule (e.g. Florida State). Notice that no one is arguing that FSU shouldn't be in the MNC despite playing in the ACC.

Ohio State has played a horrendous schedule; their toughest opponent was 9-3  #21 Wisconsin at home and the second toughest was probably Iowa at home. Despite this awful schedule, they've found themselves locked in several dog fights this year. A botched snap from losing to 1-7 Northwestern, a game vs 3-5 Michigan that they virtually tied in regulation but won on a 50/50 two point conversion. 

When only two teams are given a chance to play for a MNC, you need to be able to look beyond who has the most "W"s on their schedule. This is why Northern Illinois, Fresno State and teams from weaker conferences don't get NC bids when they're undefeated. If Ohio State dominated their weak schedule, I'd say your comment that "all they can control is how they play on Saturdays" has some validity, but they've actually looked pretty bad more than a few times.

Do you honestly think there aren't 10 or so other teams who would go undefeated with their schedule? Heck, even MSU went undefeated with a similar schedule except for the fact that they played a mediocre ND team on the road, which gives you a sense of how easy it is for any above average team to go undefeated in this conference right now. 

SDCran

December 1st, 2013 at 2:38 PM ^

Also, nothing they did 5, 10, 25 years ago does either. No offense intended, but they have played the worst 24 game schedule in B10 history. When TCU or Boise played similar schedules in the past ( or N Ill, who won @iowa this year) nobody thought they were deserving. It is only reputation that has OSU there now. This Championship game is really a blessing for whoever wins.

Reader71

December 1st, 2013 at 2:36 PM ^

If undefeated B1G Champion Ohio State is skipped over for a 1-loss SEC team, I will never give a shit about any "Championship" outside of the B1G. As much as I hate Ohio (Go Green!), this would be a fucking joke. That aside, go State. And if that fails, go Seminoles.

Princetonwolverine

December 1st, 2013 at 5:47 PM ^

Beating Arkansas is impressive? They were 0-8 in thle SEC and lost to Rutgers. Yes, that Rutgers.

I suggest you look at Missouri's record if they beat Auburn. Their only loss was in the 2nd OT to 10-2 South Carolina.

Reader71

December 2nd, 2013 at 12:27 AM ^

I don't care. They played 12 games and won them all. Auburn lost a game by 14. I cannot believe that the stupid fucking BCS is making me defend Ohio. They are undefeated in a major conference, and there is only one other major conference team that is undefeated. That as easy a decision as the BCS has ever had.

UFM

December 1st, 2013 at 4:44 PM ^

I get that you hate us, etc. But you do realize that if a one loss SEC team jumps an undefeated Ohio St team (assuming we beat Sparty) then that is bad news for the ENTIRE B1G not just tOSU right? It sets a precedent (so far no undefeated AQ team has ever been jumped by one loss team under BCS) that even undefeated B1G teams will be jumped by SEC teams who have lost a game. Sure we have playoffs next year but the same thinking will apply (could a one loss b1g team ever finish in the top 4 where there are multiple one loss SEC teams?). Unless you've given up all hopes of ever reaching a national title game I'd be careful not to s*** where I eat. By the way, heck of a game yesterday. Love to see the rivalry in full swing as it should be. Hope it's always like this.

BigOzzy86

December 1st, 2013 at 5:06 PM ^

2 years ago I got into it with the weekend crew on 97.1. They had no idea of the level of conference pride those sec teams exhibit... they pull for each other in their out of conference games. As a conference I hope that both Ohio and State do great in their Bowl games... and that osu gets a shot at the BCS championship.

Toledostrip

December 1st, 2013 at 5:33 PM ^

When you read the comments on some OSU story on ESPN and all the chumps (chimps?) bust on the slo-Ohio they are busting the B1G! Kentucky would beat everyone...high school football. On Wisconsin, Go Blue, beat the SEC! Sad part is the ACC and PAC 12 are in on it. I am an OSU fan but root B1G out of conference with passion!

Zoltanrules

December 1st, 2013 at 7:34 PM ^

You may be a swell guy, but any civility from your fan base is totally self serving (stick together B1G so Ohio doesn't get by passed in the polls) and because you have owned the last decade in a crappy conference. During the Cooper era, with roles reversed, the Ohio fanbase was highly insane with hatred for UM and I loved it. And the rivalry is NOT in full swing until UM WINS some games and ruins your precious season. Your fanbase is so paraniod, spoiled and delusional, I wish nothing but nothing but bad things for all Ohio sports teams and throw in the Indians, Cadavaliers, Blue Jackets, Browns and Bengals. Go Auburn!!