December 8th, 2014 at 11:02 AM ^
December 8th, 2014 at 11:53 AM ^
Hell, it probably will happen. While we're sitting at 5-7 with Schiano. Because FML.
December 8th, 2014 at 11:02 AM ^
He should do whatever is best for him, but if I were him, I'd take a year off to evaluate what I did well and what I didn't. I'm afraid jumping right into another program wouldn't allow him enough time to effectively learn from his mistakes.
Take some time, Hoke, clear your head, use that big ass paycheck you got to go travel the world with your family.
Either way, I'm not sure he'd fare much better at Oregon State than he did here. He'd be trading OSU and MSU for the likes of Oregon, USC, UCLA, and Arizona.
December 8th, 2014 at 11:03 AM ^
That would be a bad hire.
December 8th, 2014 at 11:04 AM ^
GMatt won't go with him, and he'll have to find a new OC, but I actually think this would be a good move for Oregon St. Why?
First, Hoke will likely bring something a little different to the PAC-12, which will actually give the smaller school an advantage (think when the spread was first coming into form with Purdue and Northwestern rising up because they were so different than the rest of the Big Ten). Another thing that makes sense here is Hoke's ability to coach DL. The biggest thing Oregon has struggled with are very good, run stopping DLs. Hoke can coach up a DL, so that gives them something to give them a shot against UO.
I know people like to say Hoke is stubborn with offense and what not, but he has always allowed OCs to run their stuff and has had different offenses at Ball St, SDSU, and at Michigan. If he can find some coaches to move with him, probably find a few new coaches so it isn't the exact same coaching staff, I think something of the Oregon St level would be a good fit for him (and he has west coast ties and is well liked out there, so that helps as well).
I dunno if he'd want that job (I wouldn't be surprised if he simply retired), but the issues would be for Oregon St his age. He's now 56, which isn't too old, but this I think would have been a great hire if it was 4 years ago for a school like Oregon St. Instead, this is probably more something to keep some stability and maybe get a surprise year in there. But, the upside if they did hire him, he wouldn't leave for a bigger job if he was successful (too old; bigger job didn't work for him before so bigger schools wouldn't be looking to hire him), fits well at a smaller school, would bring some stability, has had success previously and can recruit, and how many times does Oregon St get to hire a BCS bowl-winning coach. This would be a good move for them.
December 8th, 2014 at 12:16 PM ^
A manball offense will be a change in the Pac-12 North? What about Stanford?
December 8th, 2014 at 12:40 PM ^
Would Borges come back to work with him again? He's a West Coast guy, started his college career in Portland, seems too young to be ready to retire, and knows Hoke will let him do his thing without interfering.
December 8th, 2014 at 1:48 PM ^
First, Hoke will likely bring something a little different to the PAC-12, which will actually give the smaller school an advantage
He's going to bring a little something different to the PAC-12, and give Oregon State an advantage... by running the same pro-style offense Oregon State already runs?
December 8th, 2014 at 11:05 AM ^
A ntOSU thread and only 2 beaver jokes? We can do better.
December 8th, 2014 at 11:56 AM ^
It's not you, ntOSU, it's us.
We just can't get up for it. The CC search has been too stressful, and we've been drinking a lot too.
December 8th, 2014 at 12:17 PM ^
"We just can't get up for it"
That's what she said. Or is it...that's what the beaver said?
December 8th, 2014 at 11:06 AM ^
I like Hoke, but with the lack of built-in assets at Oregon State and his, er, lack of head coaching skills that program would be the bottom of the barrel out west.
December 8th, 2014 at 11:06 AM ^
December 8th, 2014 at 11:09 AM ^
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December 8th, 2014 at 11:12 AM ^
If we hire Schiano, we'd deserve it.
December 8th, 2014 at 11:09 AM ^
and that has to be a very attractive variable for an AD at a school like Oregon State. Put the right coordinators around him and he might have some success.
December 8th, 2014 at 11:10 AM ^
Weird, to say the least.
San Diego State on Michigan's 2011 schedule.
Michigan hires Brady Hoke away from SDSU in early 2011.
Michigan beats SDSU 28-7 eight months later.
Oregon State on Michigan's 2015 schedule.
Michigan fires Hoke in late 2014.
Hoke (possibly) hired by Oregon State in late 2014/early 2015
Oregon State comes to Ann Arbor 8-9 months later...
December 8th, 2014 at 11:11 AM ^
A Brady Hoke coached team on the road? I'll take Michigan with nearly any coach in the country.
December 8th, 2014 at 11:12 AM ^
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December 8th, 2014 at 11:14 AM ^
December 8th, 2014 at 11:17 AM ^
at a BSU and that was pretty much spot on. (B.S. You)
December 8th, 2014 at 11:15 AM ^
toughest gig in PAC12 North. Stanford, Cal, Oregon, Wash, Wash State all have either young coaches, new coaches, or new old coaches and are building programs. I'm afraid OSU is going to find it very hard to compete in that division for quite some time.
December 8th, 2014 at 11:17 AM ^
If he goes 9-3 or something next year will people start bitching that we made a mistake and should of given him a 5th year.
December 8th, 2014 at 11:20 AM ^
December 8th, 2014 at 11:32 AM ^
Yes I think you can be pretty sure that someone would be saying that.
December 8th, 2014 at 2:20 PM ^
and this schedule http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-15/pac-10/2015-oregon-state-beavers-foo…
Lets see, first year QB, worse players than Michigan, tougher overall schedule. 9-3 not happening.
December 8th, 2014 at 11:18 AM ^
I'd cheer for Oregon State if Hoke went there. It'd be interesting to see who he gets as OC and DC. He could put together a good staff and have some success at OSU.
December 8th, 2014 at 11:20 AM ^
Facing Hoke next year would be pretty ironic.
His Ball State team in 2006 sure gave us a scare.
December 8th, 2014 at 11:22 AM ^
December 8th, 2014 at 11:59 AM ^
"That school in Eugene."
December 8th, 2014 at 11:23 AM ^
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December 8th, 2014 at 11:28 AM ^
Any chance he mends fences with Gorgeous Al Borges and builds a juggernaut offense? You know, the one that will get 2.3 YPC and 3.3 YPA?
December 8th, 2014 at 12:01 PM ^
YPA under Borges was usually pretty good. Much better than this past season.
December 8th, 2014 at 12:31 PM ^
Borges's years in red.
| 2014 | 6.26 |
| 2013 | 8.15 |
| 2012 | 8.15 |
| 2011 | 8.37 |
| 2010 | 8.45 |
| 2009 | 7.23 |
| 2008 | 5.08 |
| 2007 | 6.77 |
| 2006 | 7.67 |
| 2005 | 6.53 |
| 2004 | 6.74 |
December 8th, 2014 at 3:17 PM ^
Dave Brandon forcing Brady to Fire Borges completely F*ked up the 2014 season. It brought another OC in which made for DG's 3rd since he has been here, and clearly caused DG to regress as a QB. Instead of allowing DG to use his natural talent and flourish, like Borges did...Nuessmeir just caused DG to 'think too much" which lead to hesitancy and even more inconsistency from a guy who already had enough of that in his game.
Firing Borges also signaled that Hoke was not much more than a neutered puppet for Dave Brandon. Its hard for a HC to be respected when he basically is not the decision maker for even his own staff.
December 8th, 2014 at 5:36 PM ^
Our offense without a doubt would have been better this year. Perhaps not good enough to save Hoke and perhaps still a good thing. But we/it would have been better.
December 8th, 2014 at 12:48 PM ^
Remember that while people were complaining about the running game at PSU in 2013, we put up more than enough points to win that game. Same with the OSU game. He can't coach the offensive line.
My only knock was the play calling. I had no issue with the plays and formations in their playbook, just what was getting called at the time.
December 8th, 2014 at 6:40 PM ^
Yeah, he was.
And this year with Gallon and Co. gone, he would have been awful.
December 8th, 2014 at 8:27 PM ^
lol this schizoid board. Borges has to be the most unpopular coach on mgoblog since I've been coming here, which was the beginning of RR's tenure, except maybe GERG. And now people are talking about what a mistake it was to fire him with no one shooting back except you and you're getting negged. Wow.
Having said that, I didn't have nearly the same anger towards Borges, and although he certainly made a lot of mistakes, I do think they would have been better with him as the OC if only for the continuity.
December 8th, 2014 at 11:30 AM ^
OREGON STATE FERGODSAKES!
December 8th, 2014 at 11:30 AM ^
While I was in favor of a change I feel for Hoke and his family. I genuinely hope for his success in the future!
December 8th, 2014 at 11:30 AM ^
Hoke goes West, I come East.
December 8th, 2014 at 12:50 PM ^
December 8th, 2014 at 11:34 AM ^
Maybe he'll build a DL like a brick wall at OSU for RR to run into each year.
December 8th, 2014 at 11:36 AM ^
I guess he then gets to play Arizona and RR, which is cool I suppose.
December 8th, 2014 at 11:47 AM ^
October 10th of next year. The ratings coming out of Michigan will be suprisingly high for that one if you don't know the backstory.
December 8th, 2014 at 12:49 PM ^
I just hope we're undefeated with no buyers remorse by that time.
December 8th, 2014 at 11:47 AM ^
to complete the love triangle
December 8th, 2014 at 12:07 PM ^
December 8th, 2014 at 12:18 PM ^
Honestly, I don't know how Oregon State can look at what happened at Michigan the last 4 years and say "oh yeah, that's the guy for our program" unless they want a coach with stratospheric level values but diminishing wins.
With Riley, Oregon State got a former OC/QB coach from USC, with x's and o's competence and a knack for developing talented players. Riley had a clue of what he was doing.
Hoke is a great recruiter, and DL coach, but that's about it. Everything else he left to his assistants, which can be good, but at UM this didn't help Hoke. Hoke was at SDSU for two years (13-12). He's 78-70 all-time. Wake up and see this for what it is - a C-grade hire. And they know it.
Oregon State should be going after Beau Baldwin.