January 9th, 2015 at 8:01 PM ^
Appears to be failed drug tests. When will kids learn not to do this stuff when you know the NCAA will be testing?
January 10th, 2015 at 2:52 AM ^
Mario Manningham should write an ebook/tutorial/article on how not to get caught. Dude spent half his time in Ann Arbor baked and didn't get caught by the NCAA once.
January 9th, 2015 at 8:04 PM ^
When will the NCAA stop testing for a drug that doesn't give competitive advantage?
January 9th, 2015 at 9:01 PM ^
There is no competitive advantage to flunking school or domestic violence, maybe the NCAA should allow that as well.
January 9th, 2015 at 9:10 PM ^
Have you ever played 2 of These Things Are Not Alike? Your things are not alike.
January 9th, 2015 at 10:52 PM ^
The point is the NCAA suspends people for all kinds of things that don't give a competitive advantage, not that those things are all equal. If, as the poster implies, the NCAA only looked at competitive advantage being gained then you could get away with a lot and still be eligible. But the NCAA prefers their players to not break the law, much like the NFL. And it is the law, even if it is unpopular.
January 9th, 2015 at 11:26 PM ^
Smoking weed in Oregon hasn't been more than a civil infraction since the 70s. Will be completely legal in July.
Should the NCAA suspend players for speeding tickets?
January 10th, 2015 at 12:00 AM ^
to stretch more than 20 hours a week. It's not illegal to take money in exchange for going to a particular school. It's not illegal to play a sport professionally before going to school.
The NCAA has a lot of rules that have nothing to do with the law. Whether or not it's good policy, the rule is the rule, the rule and the consequences are widely known, and the guy made a decision to risk it.
January 10th, 2015 at 12:07 AM ^
I think where the real debate should take place is whether it's appropriate for the NCAA to classify marijuana as "performance enhancing". There's not some morals clause that says pot is a no-no, it's listed right alongside steroids and stimulants as something that would provide a competitive advantage. That's what my problem with these suspensions is.
January 9th, 2015 at 11:35 PM ^
"But the NCAA prefers their players to not break the law, much like the NFL."
Now that is hilarious!
January 9th, 2015 at 9:13 PM ^
Congratulations on making the most nonsensical comparison I've heard yet this year.
January 9th, 2015 at 10:53 PM ^
The comparison made sense. The point was just because it doesn't give a competitive advantage doesn't mean it should be allowed.
So the comparison made perfect sense...however, it was just flat out stupid.
January 10th, 2015 at 12:44 AM ^
Is there a competitive advantage to strawman arguments?
January 10th, 2015 at 8:00 AM ^
Well, flunking school would make you ineligible to, you know, play a sport for the school because you would no longer be admitted to said school. But yes, the NCAA should absolutely treat punching your girlfriend/boyfriend in the face a couple of times when your angry with recreational drug usage like marijuana, which is legal in a number of states.
January 10th, 2015 at 11:14 AM ^
Since you're hitting the slowpitch softballs might as well mention rape. Domestic violence: 50-50 women commit just as much but only men pay the consequences
January 10th, 2015 at 11:19 AM ^
If you're really worried about domestic violence and not just using it as a hot-button issue in your analogy, you should be all for weed smoking. Not a lot of super-high people like to get into violent altercations with anything other than a bag of potato chips.
January 10th, 2015 at 12:19 PM ^
So you're saying weed smoking is NOT positively correlated with domestic violence?
I'm sure domestic abusers abuse less while actually high, but no one is always high . . . .
January 9th, 2015 at 9:22 PM ^
Dat bulking competitive advantage doe.
January 9th, 2015 at 9:27 PM ^
East Quad represent!
January 10th, 2015 at 9:56 AM ^
Never forget.
January 10th, 2015 at 1:18 AM ^
Don't know about today' but back in the day east quad was known as home to a large gay population.
January 10th, 2015 at 9:57 AM ^
So what?
January 9th, 2015 at 9:30 PM ^
If they were suspended for pot my blood is going to boil. Practically the safest drug you can do and a lot less harmful than booze or cigarettes.
/off soapbox
January 9th, 2015 at 10:22 PM ^
gabby giffords shooter, the muslim terrorists who bombed the boston marathon, lots of gangsters that i put away in my past life. its not that pot makes you violent, it's that it adversely impacts your higher brain functions, especially if taken while younger, and good things don't happen after that. recent study says it lowers IQ by 9 points.
for those who are genuinely sick, cancer patients, MS, heck, i'll go buy it for them. but for the healthy there are risks and costs. choose wisely.
January 9th, 2015 at 10:30 PM ^
Adversely impacts higher brain functions and lowers IQ, just like alcohol!
January 9th, 2015 at 10:54 PM ^
use of alcohol, especially red wine, has shown to have many positive health benefits. sure, getting drunk is foolish, but the anti-oxidants and flavins in a glass of red are a benefit such as lowering cholesterol and blood pressure. there have been alcoholics probably since the creation/discovery of booze, no different than any other substance, but enjoyed wisely its a good thing.
i almost forgot: smoking MJ makes you want to touch that red arrow up there. admit it, you're looking at it right now...
January 10th, 2015 at 2:38 AM ^
Let's make all alcohol except wine illegal then.
January 10th, 2015 at 1:15 AM ^
Correct me if I'm wrong but the benefits from a glass of red wine would still be ere absent the alcohol. It's like saying a grilled chicken breast topped with whipped cream is good for you, well yeah it's good for you but it be better without the whipped cream. And of course there have been multiple studies that show benefits of weed, and when weed is ate there seems to be no problems whatsoever.
January 9th, 2015 at 10:46 PM ^
.... I think I lost 9 IQ points by just reading this post.
January 10th, 2015 at 2:41 AM ^
lol.. what a crock of shit
January 9th, 2015 at 11:05 PM ^
I do not possess the scientific or clinical expertise to argue either for or against your point. However, if you know that the NCAA, no matter how backwards and arcane they are, will test you for substance X, I don't get why you would use that substance X right before the big game? And I am sure all coaching staffs tell players these things and these actions hurt your team's chances? Why not wait till after the game?
January 9th, 2015 at 11:55 PM ^
"Last week Andy set sail for the Bahamas to sell his family boat, and he took his brother but not me. I was kind of sad at first, but then I remembered that Bob Marley song, No Woman, No Cry!"
That and the disposable cameras are wasteful because you never get to see your pictures line always crack me up.
January 10th, 2015 at 11:26 AM ^
Changing a stupid rule is what should be done if you don't like it. Until then if you get caught breaking a rule, that you knew about and can be avoided is dumb. I am a Washington state resident who loves the legal weed laws. The 15% less drug overdoses in itself is worth it not to mention the taxes.
January 10th, 2015 at 2:10 PM ^
on the method used, definition of a "positive" test, amount/duration of use; with all of those caveats in mind it can be detected up to a month prior to testing. The typical testing-urine sample will show up to a week prior to testing. My only beef with this is the selective application of these tests on the eve of an event. Maybe they should test the refs and coaching staffs too just for s & g.
January 11th, 2015 at 1:35 PM ^
Interestingly that the NCAA uses blood tests and has extremely low parameters (5ng/ml). The NFL is 35ng/ml and MLB is 50ng/mg. Individual test variances occur relative to body weight, presence of other drugs (legal and/or illegal), hydration status, individual tolerance-metabolism of THC etc. Lots of debate on reliability with regard to timing of consumption. With a very low "positive" test parameter it's possible a habitual user may not have consumed for weeks and test positive. Then there is the topic of false positives. Again a very dynamic topic right now that is open to interpretation and certainly far from universally settled.
The tests probably should be done prior to bowl season then let it go. If this is such critical issue then why isn't Oregon's win over FSU vacated and Oregon disqualified for having ineligible players playing in last week's game? It's an archaic rule in today's world of medical marijuana and expanding legalization.
January 9th, 2015 at 10:53 PM ^
In Oregon? The people of that fine state would never stand for that!
January 9th, 2015 at 8:05 PM ^
So their top 2 WRs are now gone. 1 due to injury in the Rose Bowl (Allen) and 1 b/c the reefer is just too good apparently (Carrington) .... Oh and I forgot Pharaoh Brown, Oregon's best TE, is also injured. So that makes their top 3 receivers gone for the title game.
Mariota is gonna have to literally do everything along with his sidekick Byron Marshall.
Why do football gods love OSU so much?
January 9th, 2015 at 8:06 PM ^
They must not love them too much, because Harbaugh
January 9th, 2015 at 8:07 PM ^
You sure about that? B/c I think the 1 thing that would trump Harbaugh would be our arch-rivals winning the National Title in the same year we hired him.
Smh...
January 9th, 2015 at 8:15 PM ^
I'm 100% positive. I'm walking on sunshine, bro, and don't it feel good? It's gonna be so much fun when we crush the buckeyes year after year, after year, after year.
January 9th, 2015 at 8:47 PM ^
History will divide college football into the BH* era and the JH era. (Banal Humdrum and Juggernaut Harbaugh.)
No one will care what happened in the BH era.
*No, that's not the Brady Hoke era.
January 9th, 2015 at 8:09 PM ^
bralon addison in preseason
January 9th, 2015 at 8:13 PM ^
This totally sucks, but the football gods put the 3rd string QB in for OH...
January 9th, 2015 at 8:18 PM ^
And then had him lead his team to the NC game
January 9th, 2015 at 8:18 PM ^
Let's hope their miracle run of infinite starting caliber Qbs comes to an end in the title game.
January 9th, 2015 at 8:41 PM ^
They have Royce Freeman. He is pretty good.
January 9th, 2015 at 8:47 PM ^
Glad Brown didn't commit to Michigan. Anyone remember his assault and battery on the Professor that went unpunished? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYUm2SZTRGM
These types of actions go uncovered all the time at Oregon.
January 9th, 2015 at 10:49 PM ^
God forbid a snowball fight gets carried away by a bunch of immature college kids.
January 9th, 2015 at 11:45 PM ^
I'm thinking about throwing a snowball at UrbanWarfare right now.