Didn't get a chance to see any of Purdue Notre Dame. Just wondering what people thought of the new Irish, Crist as a QB, etc. I'm too impatient to wait for Brian's scouting report.
The game summary only says so much.
alls I need to know is that Robert Marve rushed for a 24 yard touchdown on ND's defense
Living in Chicago Comcast Sports Chicago re-aired the PU / ND game last night, so I watched a bit of it. To me (now maybe it was beacuse of the great show Dlilithium put on) both teams looked very slow. Marve burned ND on his TD run - D line and LBs looked completely lost. My gut tells me we'll be able to move the ball easily on ND. As for the ND offense, they ran the ball more than I thought Kelly wanted (I heard later he is looking to run 60/40). Allen had a good day - running right up the gut. PU also seemed to play soft in the secondary, though Floyd did not have a great day. My overall thoughts, ND looked slow and their offense very bland - but I bet that was by design. Also, it looks like Weiss (miss ya big guy XOXO) left better talent than Carr, but still not the type of people he wants for his offense.
Everything I've heard about Kelly is he is PISSED OFF both UM and MSU passed him by for coaching jobs and he wants to destroy both schools. So I am sure he kept a lot to the vest.
Not a lot of info, but maybe this helps hold you over until Brian gets his scouting report out.
He's pissed MSU passed him over? Why? Obviously he coached at GVSU for years but I didn't think he was wedded to the idea of coaching in Michigan or even the midwest for his whole life.
Plus, he would have left MSU for a better job eventually. Good coaches do that unless the name is Izzo. I did hear recently he actually interviewed and they went Danner.
Michigan is a landing job though. I don't really know the history on that with U of M. Cincinatti was his first big conference job and he'd been there 1 year when Lloyd retired. Rich had run a big conference program for over a half decade and turned it into a power.
I don't know if Coach Kelly was on the short list for the job. I wouldn't argue if someone said he should have been. He is a fine coach.
Everything I've heard about Kelly is he is PISSED OFF both UM and MSU passed him by for coaching jobs and he wants to destroy both schools.
I could maybe believe this regarding MSU - they jerked him around a little before choosing Dantonio - but I don't think he was interested in our job when it came open. He had been at Cincinnati only one season, and probably didn't want to move right then. And even then there were rumors that he was waiting out Charlie Weis.
Anyway, it doesn't matter. This is UM-ND. You don't need any extra motivation for this.
I'm pretty sure Kelly always wanted to go to ND.
I am sure Rich Rodriguez would like to sue Brian Kelly for patent infringement on his offense as well...BK's team looked slow last week...I don't know that you make your team look slow intentionally...
Kelly is the same situation as RR was -- not very many players to fit his philosophy. But, they do have Armando Allen. If we can keep him in check, it should be another win.
would fit into any offensive scheme.
Yes, especially Army's.
Kelly is in much, much better shape than Michigan in 2008.
Michigan is in much, much better shape than Michigan in 2008.
Guys who watched: was their defense look slow or fast? I have heard and read both. How do you think it stacks up with UCONN's D just on your eye test?
this thread is going to keep me entertained for a while
stay thirsty my friend
I've got to agree, most of the comments above are downplaying ND in my mind. I think you guys will be quite the test (and vice-versa). We might be on different sides of this one Irish, but I think we'll both agree that ND is looking like a fairly good team.
I DVRed the ND-Purdue game and though I think ND wasn't as world-beating as I'd anticipated them looking, they're still going to be tough to beat.
For real. Crazy things happen in South Bend.
Like Denard going off rushing for 200 yards on Saturday...
One question Irish...how does your defense stop the dilithium? BK doesn't have any answers either.
I think you can't glean enough from a team after one game, Michigan included.
I know Notre Dame did something Michigan hasn't the past two years - beat Purdue. I know that doesn't mean much but I've heard a lot of people making the argument that since UConn beat ND last year and we beat them this year that means something.
My dad could totally kick your dads ass...
Lets be honest fellas, it doesn't really matter either way "how good and quick" ND looked against Purdue... Purdue isn't exactly a powerhouse this year and they lost their starting RB to a knee injury, and UConn this year is not UConn last year.
We're still going to have to go out there and out-hit, out-hustle and out-play those Irish to get the win.. Kelly isn't going to give it to us with a 3rd down playaction.
That being said, I believe the saying is "you can't coach speed"
Sometimes the game looks slower on natural grass, especially ND's grass, which is supposedly kept pretty long.
the one thing I took away from that game is play action vs. ND = $$$$$$$$
Dilithium. Enough said.
It was a consistent performance all the way around. Very few mistakes were made. The defence was pretty solid except the one play where Marve took off. 4 sacks and 2INTs is pretty darn good.
Offensively things were probably as vanilla as you can get while trying to keep Crist from over doing it. The run game was exceptional for ND standards as of late. Passing game needed some work.
To recap: Marve TD, safety, not so crisp passing attack == Bad.
Running game and solid defense == Good.
The biggest improvement from a ND standpoint is their defense. They were pretty solid on Saturday. Now there's reason to question just how potent Purdue's offense is given they have a new QB and are playing a backup at RB but it was still a solid performance for Notre Dame. They should have shut the Boilermakers down and that's exactly what they did.
The biggest question mark for Notre Dame is their new QB. Crist looked good but he definitely got a case of the yips when he felt some pressure, which is understandable given it was his first start. There's no question ND is worse at that position than they were last year.
As far as what I look at as a Michigan guy is how Notre Dame's line holds up. If they can open up holes in the run game and give Crist time then the Irish should be in good shape. If they struggle then Notre Dame is going to be in for a long day. They have a fairly inexperienced o-line so that could play into Michigan's favor.
Can't wait for Saturday to get here!
To the OP. If you have Comcast they are replaying the ND game on UHD right now.
Question for all you out there. How does Notre Dame normally do against fast qb's...or even mobile. I remember last year tate had a great run and marve yesterday had a great run...both of which are mobile but not "fast". I know traditionally in the lloyd years michigan was terrible against the fast qb's, dixon tore us apart.