Open thread: M basketball vs. Utah
While I know M has been down for a long time, it amazes me with the Big Chill tomorrow and probably lots of alumni in town, that there are numerous empty seats down low.
In comparison, I paid $110 for a pair of nosebleeds in 1987 to see M play Minnesota. Now those were two really good teams but still.
Yeah, it seems like attendance this year has been especially bad. I guess fan expectations were really deflated after last season. We need to fill up Crisler - this year's team is worth watching.
Yeah there were a lot of people in attendance last year following being in the tournament two years ago. After a disappointment last season there are a lot less people in the stands.
There probably are a lot of alumni in town...but they're probably at the Jug. Or anywhere else. As sad as it is, that's the state of the bball program. This is a fun team to watch but until we're consistently ranked and Crisler is renovated, you're going to have a hard time getting the majority of people excited about going to a game.
Not to be a dick, but, reasons for an empty Crisler:
This is also a world-renowned university, and finals are starting up.
Not as many students bought BBall tickets this year due to the anticipated mediocrity of our team (which, hey, they're looking good!).
With the Big Chill tomorrow, we have to get work done at some point.
So many posters lament a perceived lack of school spirit by the students. Then, when the students come full of spirit(s), the same people lament how classless and smashed we are. For all of the grumbling about the "Down In Front-ers" that goes on here...
To be clear, our basketball fanbase as a whole (of all ages) has done a poor job of turning out so far this season. It's not just the students. But spare me the "We're not there because it's almost finals" stuff. It's Friday night . . . think the bars are empty?
6.30 bball game vs. 11.00 trip to the bar... And, given the Big Chill tomorrow, yes, I'd say the bars will be less crowded than usual tonight. Empty? No.
And I'm not sure why I'd "spare you the finals" excuse. I mean, I know for a fact that myself and a large number of my friends/classmates will be spending most of their weekends studying, with the Big Chill being the last fun activity until it's all over. Forgotten what it's like to go here?
I completely understand your reasoning, but the upper bowl has basically been unfilled this entire season, whether finals are next week or not.
Michigan, in general, has not supported basketball that fervently (even in the Fab 5 era, most, but not all, games sold out), but the attendance for these games looks to be less than attend a typical hockey game at Yost.
I'm not expecting 10,000+ to fill the gym for a game against Concordia, but Utah is a solid team. I really hope (assuming the team enters Big 10 plays with 10 wins) that students get on the bandwagon and support the team. I'm not sure if that will happen. It also would be nice if alums supported the team more as well, but students have much more fun & energy at the games and make for a better crowd. I would hope out of 40,000 students, we could get over 2,000 to go to games.
I'll be at Crisler for Penn State in January. We were able to get really good seats FWIW, either because of winter break or because it's Penn State, but I am pretty stoked.
We'd all like to see more support for the team, and basketball right now just isn't the marquee sport here. Those that truly care and follow M bball fanatically buy season tickets and attend.
Unfortunately, season tickets are $100, and a lot of students aren't willing to part with $100 for season tickets that don't guarantee a decent seat (for bigger games you need to get there pretty early to get into the student section). We already cough up $225 for football tickets (anecdotally I can say more expensive than a lot of schools). Additionally, a lot of the games are at pretty inconvenient times and are often against subpar opponents.
Yes, more students should buy tickets. Yes, more should buy individual tickets. But do you really expect 2,000 students to get pumped enough to spend the extra cash on Utah tickets? The big games/B10 games usually fill up pretty well.
Horford! Nice slam!
Team looking good so far..
He's a big boy, he just needs to put on a few LBs
So I guess he isn't redshirting, after all. I don't love the fact that he, Morgan and McLimans are all the same year of eligibility. I've got to say, though, that even though he's rail-thin, Horford seems to make a lot of good hustle plays.
remember when llp was supposed to be the best pg since rumeal?
hello darius morris. that's what a pg is supposed to be.
Darius Morris has been unconcious so far this season. He looks so much more confident than last year. He really is a mini-Denard.
it has been a highlight reel stuff, his FT have been good too
He is starting to remind me of Rondo with his playmaking ability and ability to get to the rim and finish.
Futures so bright... gotta wear shade
I wish Time Warner wasn't the worst. But it is and so the BTN is currently unavailable.
I have time Warner and it is on in Ohio.
they have it, if you pay.
Right I payed, but it's still not available right now because they suck.
is kinda good.
5 pts in about 10 secs?
Note... announcer with the "MARio brothers" quote... he's from the North East. You midwesterners say "MAR-io" (correct way, but hey, whatever.)
But weren't we supposed to be terrible?
We look, well, good?
Yea I agree, I feel like there still might be a few question marks regarding the team. I really wish we had beaten Syracuse. That would have been very nice. A lot of bball left, we'll get to see how this team pans out once big ten play starts.
That was the greatest comparison I've ever heard. It was something like:
"you remember the game Mario where you start out small, then you get the mushroom and get bigger, then you get the star and you run wild over the turtles and everything? That's Darius Morris right now"
I immediately started singing the music in Mario Bros. when you get the star. Sometimes you gotta love BTN basketball announcers.
I really hope that clip ends up on youtube. I want to listen to that again.
If only Jordan Morgan could have been healthy last year. If he was anywhere near this year's level, last season could have gone very, very, differently.
I agree 100 percent
And its also why I dont mind burning Horford's redshirt. The team still needs to be able to throw out as many big guys as they can who can make plays, even if its just hustle plays. Morgan would have had had a huge impact on last year's team, for sure. This year's team is better and Horford can add some of the element they missed last year with the Morgan injury. Plus, so many more lineup combos for a guy like JB. I see the value in the redshirt, but I am happier to see some immediate dividends from Horford. The program needs that
not a fan of this announcer. sounds like he is getting paid everytime he says morris or butterfly.
we need to slow down and not launch some of these three's 4 seconds into possession, work it and get better shot
Morrish usesh heighth
Michigan Offseason plans:
Football team: Do whatever Denard did last offseason.
Basketball team: Do whatever Morris did last offseason.
That is all. Oh and I saw a quick shot of Lloyd Brady for a split second when the camera was panning earlier.
I'm almost certain the camera was focused on LB right before half there. And what do you know, he had a decent looking blonde standing right by him.
it's crazy to see all the empty seats...I know he does a lot of the little things but Novak's shooting is hard to watch.
With his effort.
On an IPhone. Autocorrect makes for great posts.
Settings>general>keyboard>autocorrection off. Autocorrect blows.
Why dont we move the two teams benches to the other side so we dont have a bunch of visitors in our student section? Is this going to be part of the Crisler renovation?
The most definitive info I've seen on this was in an annarbor.com article on the renovations from January:
Michigan will replace seats in the lower bowl, align aisles with entrances, along with adding handrails and disability seating to ensure compliance with the Americans with Disabilities Act.
Re-seating of the lower bowl will not displace the Maize Rage student section. Martin said “we want the students to be behind the bench.” Instead, though, he said architects might look at moving the benches - and the students - to the other side of the court. But nothing was definite with that.
RITA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm hungry for some nacho dip.
Lloyd Brady sighting!!!!!
lloyd brady sighting at the half!!!!!!!!
long live LB!
Lloyd Brady's not very excited about Michigan basketball imo
The clapping was pretty half-assed... he was totally trying to blend in too... as if he weren't sure if he wanted to be seen at an M b-ball game. I mean, dude was in front row at the big house, he couldn't get better seats at Crisler?
It was kind of grainy, so couldn't really tell, but it looked like Morris has grown some dreads and started playing without tying his shoes
This team is so fun to watch. They are very young and it looks like Michigan basketball has a bright future. I have not been this excited about the basketball team for a long time.
Michigan is playing like a really well coached team. Players are confident and playing within themselves. Hopefully this can last, but with youth you never know. So far it looks like Beilein has done a great job with the team this season.
by your avatar!
I almost hate to ask, but . . . should we assume Morris is a four-year guy?
No idea. He certainly has the size and skill to play point at the next level, but his outside shooting is certainly not NBA ready. I'm not sure about this but he might lack the quickness he would need to be an effective bad shoot NBA point?
just think of it this way - if he leaves early, something really good happened.
...but not in the cases of Jamal Crawford and Manny Harris.
JC left because, otherwise, he would have been on the hook to pay back living expenses from high school under one of the most unfair NCAA actions ever taken against Michigan. He wanted to come back.
Anyone have a stream link? Can't seem to find one.
if there is a stream availabe for the game, it will usually be posted in the game thread there.
Is that what they call it...looking a little weak for a Friday night...
Nice to see RR relaxing at the game with his wife and son. Isn't this a big recruiting weekend?
According to the twitters, he's there with family, the recruits, and the recruiting hosts.
Have students finished exams yet? Not much of a crowd.
Exams start next week.
Holy hannah. This team could be downright scary in a year or two.
More people (including myself) need to get to Crisler and watch/cheer on this team.
Hardaway Jr. is a monster. Darius is showing signs of Manny Harris and the team seems to be clicking. Love it.
I like what I see so far tonight
This is JB's best team at Michigan
It's finally seeming to look like a "John Beilein" team
9:0 Assists to turnovers for Morris. What an offseason this kid mus have had
Darius Morris is friggin' awesome!
Understated, but he means it...right in between Tiger Woods and Napolean Dynamite..
Sophomore D-Mo is better than sophomore Manny. His game is just more efficient and valuable as a result
Anyone else think Utah's jerseys look terrible? Every close up they show I think it's an AAU jersey.
Thought the same thing!
I knew somebody would post this. They were definitely horrid.
They work hard, they're young, can shoot the lights out and play D. Finally seeing what Beilein does when he gets his guys. Big Ten play will be exciting I have a feeling we're gonna pull some upsets
8 or more deep we'll be in decent shape in conference.
This could be a >.500 club in the Big Ten...should get them in with ~20 wins over all?
"Foster has been Australian for nothing this game"
Quick question: how does Orel fucking Roberts beat anyone?
By having more points than the other team at the end of the game.
6:30 Remaining in 2nd
impressive. Wow, it is nice to have some positive news for a change.
Our ball movement is amazing. It's hard to believe these guys are almost all underclassmen. They look like they've been playing together for years.
the line-up Michigan have a chance against most...This kid makes everyone on the floor better, Manny was a great individual scorer but when he had the ball the rest of team did a lot of watching...and just think Morris is only a soph...NIT is a real possibility.
GOOD DEFENSE (Because I'm yelling)
Gotta hand it to JB -- he's a helluva coach.
It seriously can't be overstated. Morris is 10000% improved offensively
Had a daughter i would let Darius Morris have his way with her.
No more fucking butterfly references. What is this guy a fucking entomologist?
Big Ten season should be interesting -- the Big Ten is really loaded this year. U-M has got to win a few upsets at home, thrash the bottom-feeders and we'll be good to go.
the way this team is playing i can almost taste a Michigan victory vs little brother
"The beautiful butterfly that he is."
Nice to see him at the game tonight. In the crowd on tv with about 1 min left.
reminds me of Renaldo Balkman.
Mid-way through the 1st half, Michigan went up 19-8. The lead never got back into single digits.
These kinds of wins are way easier on my heart than many I have seen in recent years.
damn I just saw their schedule for this year, kansas then ohio state. I say we beat them both.
last one was 65-49 with 6:30 to go.
Anyone have a new update?
75-64 the good guys, in a game that wasn't even that close. A great effort by the young kids, especially against a bigger, somewhat-more experienced Utah team.
I hate not having the BTN.
Nice team effort, with strong contributions from Morris, Hardaway, Novak, Horford, and Vogrich. Now if Smotrycz can get himself untracked, this team might have a chance to pull off a really big upset or two.
The team is much much better than I expected.
I think we will surprise some in the conference. Hopefully enough conference wins for a tournament invite!