Does not compute.
Does not compute.
A Wolverine would kick a Honey Badger's ass...
That's actually true: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080804133628AAYEwp1
You just got the bones in your back leg snapped like twigs! I bet you care now!
Only 300 Wolverines and still only 1 "Fuck Lion"...sad times in the animal Kingdom.
For those that don't know what a Fuck Lion is...just google for Michigan DT Marques Slocum and Lion.
Unfortunately, I have a feeling some people in East Lansing would object to making the wolverine Michigan's state animal.
The wolverine already is the state animal. Has been for a long time.
And I agree, there is no way Wolverines can be OT on a Michigan Blog, not to mention a University of Michigan Football blog. We really don't have a state animal, we have a state mammal. I suggest that the Wolverine can be the state animal, the spartans will get over it, at about the same time they get over Mike Hart.
Bring them back!
we can start by not putting them in bags, hm?
Winner Winner, Chicken Dinner.
I have this name from a Staff Sgt. I served with in Iraq, who always said "wolverine in a bag" when someone was really agressive. And maybe, that Staff Sgt. is dead now, and the name will always be an homage to him.
we can all calm down now. Group hug!!
but it's not like I thought you actually had a wolverine in a bag. I wasn't insulting you or anything. Thank you for serving.
Thanks, sorry for getting heated, just hit a sore spot.
Last summer, a Wolverine was killed by a car in Northern WI, a mile from my in-laws. Only one the locals had ever seen.
No way a car could kill a wolverine. It probably just died naturally on the road, and then was hit.
2000 lbs versus 85, you are correct I am certain.
has a poster of a Wolverine in his bedroom.
What if coach Ditka went up against a wolverine?
Nobody is hunting wolverines. Eat a boca burger and save a wolverine.
The more endangered wolverines are, the better they get!
In actual newsI guess the population is still thriving in northern Canada, so they're not considered endangered due to worldwide numbers.
I'd put M's 300 against MSU's 300 any day.
One of the best posts I've read in some time!
Worth much more than 5 pts.!
And when you think about it, MSU's 300 already died out, a very long time ago.
Also, unfortunately due to incorrect academic stereotypes and that God-awful movie, people seem to think that spartans were elite soldiers. They really weren't as big of badasses as history seems to record. I can't remember who said it but an individual Greek soldier was not very deadly individually but the hoplite provided a coordinated group effort elevating the potency of the Greek warriors. Basically a bunch of soldiers would deck out heavily in bronze armor, grab a big shield and spear, and smash into enemy formations. This worked well at Thermopylae since they could hide in a canyon (literally sit in a small pass and force the more lightly armed Persians to attack) and weather the Persian attacks by eliminating the Persian superior mobility and missile weaponry. This is how Greece won any battle against Persian (until Alexander who was Macedonian). Marathon and Plataea, the two bigger battles and actual Greek victories provided the Greeks the ability to corner the Persians against the sea and limit the mobility. Additionally, there were thousands of other Greeks at Thermopylae. When the Greeks learned of the Persian maneuver around the pass, the Greeks retreated, except the Spartans who did bravely offer to hold off the Persian advance and the Thebans who stayed because they were going to defect toe Persian (those other guys in 300). Also, the Persians didn't have millions of soldiers. Herodotus lied. The final number of the Persian army was the better part of 5 million, including woman and artisans etc. Imagine trying to move 5 million people across Persian, through modern day Bulgaria and Macedonia, and into Greece. Logistical nightmare. Experts estimate only 40,000ish Persian soldiers.
Furthermore the Spartans never really beat anyone of significance. After conquering the Peloponnese, the enslaved other Greeks to farm and work as slaves for them, which allowed them to train there children as soldiers. As a consequence, they were always hesitant to send their army from the Peloponnese, since the other Greeks would revolt and kill everyone in Sparta, one of the reasons they only sent 300 to Thermopylae. They actually tended to avoid fights and really just talked a big game. The significant victories over Persian where Marathon (by Athens) in the first war and Salamis (where the Athenian navy destroyed the entire Persian navy) in the second war. Plataea was the final victory where a Greek army destroyed the remaining Persian army who were left behind as Xerxes (Persian king) had already retreated. Basically Sparta didn't defeat Persia. Next Spartans will claim, hey they beat the Athenians in the Pelopponnesian War, which is semi-true. Yes, they did win, but Athens lost mainly due to infighting admidst themselves and an incrediblely ill-concieved and fatal mission to Sicily. Basically Athenian corruption, a plague, and the fact that Athens mounted a whol expedition to Sicily who promptly destroyed the enire Athenian army and navy, led them to lose the war. Sparta did destroy a subsequent Athenian navy which was impressive, but that was a sea battle. Sparta wins almost by default and in less than 40 years, after a few mediocre victories over eh opponents, gets their ass kicked by Thebes and they fall back into mediocrity for the rest of time.
Conclusion: I would take 300 Wolverines over 300 spartans any day (all you do is feign a frontal assault and manuever half the Wolverines to the flank of the spartan hoplite and then a massacre happens - tough to run away with heavy bronze armor). Ironically the history of Athens and Sparta somewhat resembles that of the past couple years...
Wow. +all the points
Not to mention that after the Peloponnesian War, Sparta basically forced Athens to give up democracy. (not that it wasn't without its hiccups in Athens or that the Athenian Empire was all sweetness and light) A few in the assembly were dead set against dissolving the democracy, so the Spartans waited until they left in protest ... and then held the vote to democratically dissolve democracy.
That's like fighting for peace or F-ing for virginity.
Clearly someone needs to go back and work on their knowledge of military history and the classical world.
You are way off on a lot of your points. If you went to U of M, I know which Professor spouted half of that nonsense.
Ya half of it is straight off of Potter (well maybe lots). It has been a while since I took his class so I'm quite fuzzy on details. Plus, with my Michigan bias I tend to discount spartan military achievement anyway. That being said what would you say is incorrect?
They actually tended to avoid fights and really just talked a big game
Sounds like the Spartans to me...
I don't want to be walking through our woods and stumble on one of these
From what I understand, there are at least a couple dozen more that are on the way...
i tried to catch one in my backyard about a month ago.
Oh no you didn't
Wow, Mathieu (sp) really does look like a honey badger.
And Bielema (sp) looks like a homely badger.
Time to get frisky, Wolverines. We must grow our numbers before the next fall.
There is supposed to be a radio-collared wolverine roaming around the Rocky Mountain National Park area. The park service, though, has been real secretive about its exact whereabouts though I've heard it moves pretty widely around the area. I spend nearly 150 days a year in the park and have had close encounters with everything up to mountain lions. Seen no sign of the wolverine but I like the idea of it being around.
The Wildlife Conservation Society reported in June 2009 that a wolverine researchers had been tracking for almost three months had crossed into northern Colorado. Society officials had tagged the young male wolverine in Wyoming near Grand Teton National Park and it had traveled southward for approximately 500 miles. It was the first wolverine seen in Colorado since 1919, and its appearance was also confirmed by the Colorado Division of Wildlife.
While listing on the ESA is nice lip service, it's senseless unless we do something about climate change
Why don't you actually read what groups like the National Academy of Sciences say about climate change
I'm sure your grandkids will be overjoyed to know that on one of the biggest threats to our planet, the best you could do was make smarmy comments about Al Gore
Wolverines are pretty tough, but they don't hold a candle to the Honey Badger in that regard.
The Wolverine would easily kill a honey badger. National Geographic lists the Wolverine as the 4th most deadly land animal on the planet.
What's ahead of the wolverine?
How tough can it be?
It's not even as tough as the sugar pie tiger...
As someone with honey in my name, I take offense to this.
But, yeah, a wolverine would crush a honey badger.
The article is a bit alarmist, I think, because according to this site:
The wolverine in general is doing well, although the population trend is decreasing. Granted there doesn't appear to be many in the lower 48 anymore, and people poisoning them is rather stupid.
"The study confirmed an incident of a wolverine challenging a grizzly bear ten times its size over an elk carcass. "
Put that in my signature.
From "The Wolverine Way", it sounds like there need to be about 300 to 500 in order to sustain a wolverine population, so in that regard it is okay but if the numbers get any lower, we may not have any in the continental US.
Sugar Bowl win out to do it.
to dig up Barry White?
I would die a happy man if I were mauled by a Wolverine.
The wolverine is NOT the state mammal/animal of Michigan. The official state mammal is the white-tailed dear, and there are plenty of those to be found within the state. Just drive any of the interstates and count them laying on the shoulder, or at least what's left of them after they've been hit a few times.
As I said during my drive from Iowa City to Ann Arbor for Thanksgiving, dead deer are to I-94 in Michigan as live alligators are to I-75 in Florida.
I was hiking with my friend and her dog in the mountains outside of Anchorage, AK and all of a sudden the dog freaked out. It was whining and it would not budge, and then it shrunk down and peed. Way out in the distance, about half a mile away, a wolverine was running across a snowfield on its way over into the next valley. I was so pleased to not only see one, but know that at that distance, going in the opposite direction, it is scary enough to make a 50 pound dog freeze up and pee. Hail the fearsome wolverine.
Michigan should reintroduce the Wolverine to the Upper Penisula. I think it would be a cool thing to do and I don't give a fuck if they kill every other animal in the wild because they are FUCKING WOVERINES!
Amazing wolverine photography.
And yes, the wolverine would take the honey badger.
(apologies for any link embed issues)
Well, I will admit that I couldn't watch the Michigan-Ohio State game again this year because it was too nice of a day and I went to the zoo. One of the wolverines was fairly active.
instead of watching the game? I wish I had that choice. And I would choose differently.
I followed the game and listened to most of it on the radio. Just couldn't bring myself to stay couped up inside when there's photographing to be done. Now if I had tickets to the game and was at the game, that would be different, as I would be photographing...
You can help track them in Mt. Hood National Forest with Cascadia Wild (an environmental nonprofit). Information collected will help determine their territory, numbers, habitat, etc. This information will assist in their protection. There have been several confirmed citing of wolverines in the State of Oregon over the last couple of years.
Here's the link . . .
Fun Fact: Michigan's mascot is the Wolverines not because there are Wolverines in the state of Michigan, but the fact that George Custer (Custer's Last Stand) led a cavalry regiment in the Civil War from Michigan nicknamed the "Wolverines".
MOAR WOLVERINES, DAMNIT!
There was one spotted a few years ago in Michigan. They are still around.
I find that hard to believe considering I can purchase a wolverine trapping tag in Canada or Alaska with no restrictions. They are commonly seen and trapped. The DNR's are run by bleeding hearts, if the wolverine should be endangered, I wouldn't be able to purchase a tag.
This sounds to me like the nonsense about polar bear populations declining, when in 2007 according the to the Canadian Fish and Game service, more polar bear were counted than any previous year.
just don't put one on the sidelines in the Big House.
I'm going to have nightmares about how hideous a mascot we could get... good Lord. That piggish M-blazened nose is way too much.
I knew there were none left in Michigan, or so it's said, but I never realized there was so few left in the continental United States...
Would anyone be in support of the University getting a habitat on campus, kind of like Mike the Tiger at LSU? I think that would be pretty cool, and a university as great as ours could really do wonders for a conservation effort.
was probably never native to Michigan - preferring much further northern and western habitats. One was sighted in Michigan in 2004 by several hunters, but this animal was probably an escapee from someone's private collection. The last previous sighting to that in Michigan was over 200 years previous. Even then, scientists debate whether the wolverine actually bred in the state due to the wolverine's tendency to wander vast distances. There is not strong evidence that points to wolverines ever being common in Michigan. But they certainly make a great team mascot!
Wolverines are still alive. Thats another win for the Wolverines in my book
With so few in the lower 48 it is hard to believe that the Wolverine is not given greater protection and that we don't hear more about conservation efforts.
From the article:
wolverines are specialists at exploiting a cold, unproductive niche.
That would sound like the metro-Detroit and Ann Arbor area about now, and for the next 3 months. Making the "Wolverine" an apt mascot name for Michigan.
There's probably 300 wolverines just in my backyard up here in Alaska!
Yeah, I was wondering about that. Isn't Alaska part of the "Continental U.S.?" It's in the same continent.
Just wait until my retirement. I plan on opening a wolverine ranch, and raising them as my personal guard. 300? Ha! That will be just the perimeter!
In conclusion, wolverine army > starting a vineyard. Also requires far more carcasses.
How tough are you as a land mammal when the colder it is, the better, and NOT so you can hide out sleeping all winter? You prefer to be out in cold, snowy, and forbidding. That is tough.