One big difference between Hoke and Dantonio (along with Sparty)

Hoke's not an ass?

Have to admit I've been impressed with him so far. 

He is a better man than me.

Lets go Irish!

To be fair, one difference that they have going for them is Dantonio's ability to recruit nationally. Man, do I envy their class.

has a penis?

I understand the whole pro-Big Ten idea, but I just know that if tSIO went on to lose their remaining games this season I would not feel any sympathy and don't think Hoke would either.  Though of course that means we would have beaten them!  Sure the Big Ten doing better is usually good for Michigan but if tSIO does terrible that only helps Michigan in terms of recruiting. i.e. Kyle Kalis. 

I think the same approach can be taken from Sparty's perspective as well.  If I were a Sparty fan I would hope for Michigan to lose every game possible because the fact is that Sparty needs every edge it can to recruit players against their big rival.  You know this is the case because even after the previous three years, Michigan is dominating Sparty right now in recruiting. 

So in general I am all pro-Big Ten as long as it does not involve your big rival i.e. tSIO for Michigan and Sparty for Michigan.  Maybe if tSIO has a few down years, I'll want them to be good for the whole rivalry, but right now I am all about them losing and Michigan using that to become a power again. 

I'd bet my house that Coach Hoke would never address the comments made by an opposing player after a loss.

Pride, blah blah blah.....jagoff.

That is pure Fort Schembechler coach speak.  Who know what he really thinks?  Brady just likes to play it close to the vest with the media.

MSU can't be better than Michigan unless Michigan isn't operating at full strength.  Them wanting us to lose every game is just a reflection of that reality.

This is always something that makes me wonder. Obviously as a Buckeye fan, I want what is best for my team. So I always pull for all the Buckeyes' opp. to be at their best and do their best in all their games, then lose to OSU. I will cheer for Toledo to beat Boise tomorrow night for this reason. I will cheer for MSU to win this weekend. But with rivals (and it's tough since you guys have three big rivals, to our one) I always enjoy watching lose. I enjoying watching UofM lose, but if they win against ND, it doesn't piss me off, as long as we beat you guys.

Now in bowl games I always cheer for the Big Ten, especially against the SEC. When UofM beat UF, I was cheering for ya. That's the only example of that I can think of off the top of my head. That had special circumstances too, because I always had tremendous respect for Carr (I'll avoid spelling his first name with extra L's). I always hated that Cooper couldn't beat him, but respected the hell out of him. He was a class act. So I liked seeing him go off with a win.

At what point does coachspeak cease being coachspeak and officially become outright lies?

we've got two good football teams playing at 12:01 (p.m) here Saturday.

Not threading-jacking here, but saw this via the Lunchtime Links on ESPN on my lunch break. Thought it kind of fit with this topic (to a minor degree of course)

http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/article/20110915/GW01/109150322/MSU-football-Were-Irish-stealing-signals-?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|GreenAndWhite

It goes to show you that Sparty is classless and is paranoid about things, or making excuses on why they were getting stopped up until a fake FG that barely beat ND last year.  After reading the short bit, Narduzzi seems like (looks like one too) a real jackass and a big tool

I think the big difference is Hoke knows how to not come across like an a$$ to the medial Dantonio never figured out that jaw clenching while being a jerk doesn't hide the fact you are a tool.

I think overall, it doesn't matter who you cheer for, or who wins.  With a power conference like the Big Ten, if a team goes undefeated, they will likely get a NC bid.  It's pretty rare to have 3 undefeated teams, and especially if the Big Ten is having a down year, that would seem to make it even less likely that two teams from stronger conferences could pull it off.

So, what I'm saying is whether your rivals get upset by MAC programs, or they all go 11-1 losing to you...the key is just taking care of your own business.  Win your games, and the rest falls in line.

Having said all of that, I do take guilty pleasure seeing Ohio State, Michigan State, and Notre Dame lose. 

is capable of that phenomenon known as smiling?

I want Michigan State and Ohio to win every game except when they play us (when they play each other, I root for MSU... State of Michigan pride and all). I also root for them in bowl games (and, to a lesser extent, big non-conference games) because they represent the B1G on the national stage. 

However, I never root for Notre Dame under any circumstances (unless it would somehow affect our BCS chances, which has yet to happen). I hate Notre Dame and I have absolutely no respect for that program. It pisses me off that they still have their sweetheart deals with NBC and the BCS despite having done absolutely nothing to deserve such special treatment for 20+ years. They could lose every single game from now through infinity for all I care (until they join a conference).   

I think Hoke has changed the tide on the rivalry. Hell people in Ohio are starting to believe him. Never in a million years I would have thought that. Selling Michigan jerseys is a good start. 

I almost always root for the Big Ten teams in non-conference, so yes I want MSU to win. I root for the BT teams in the bowl games, I support my team and then my conference.

I root for OSU before I root for MSU.  Why, you ask?  I hate OSU so much and see our rivalry with them as part of the cosmic struggle between good and evil.  They're our evil twin, only not nearly as smart or perfect as we and from a state that should be kicked out of the Union. OSU is an important representative of Big 10 football and needs to be good for the sake of our conference and, most importantly, the rivalry.  When OSU gets wiped out by an SEC team in a bowl game or by USC, the same old "Big 10 sucks" talk starts up again.  (And when OSU wins a bowl game against an SEC team, it is vacated.)  It doesn't help that we've been down the past few years.

Weird, overly dramatic talk aside, I want the rivalry to be between two giants and I want to ruin OSU's season.  MSU?  I want them to disappear back into obscurity from whence they came. They're the little brother, they don't get a seat at the adults' table.  If they beat OSU, then not only do they do something we haven't done since 2003, but they also get to fool themselves into thinking that they are nearly as relevant as Michigan and OSU.

If Hoke acts like an asshole, everybody will use that against us. If Dantonio acts like an asshole, nobody outside of the Big 10 will even know.

Hoke is human while Dantonio is a reptile?

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