via link from Sam Webb's twitter - good free article by Sam Webb at GBW regarding Ondre Pipkins visit. Talks about his hosts, the coaches, and his efforts at recruiting. References Josh Garnett and Jordan Diamond.
http://michigan.scout.com/2/1134074.html#.TtWfp4FMVxE.twitter
GREAT READ...
I got to see this kid a year
I got to see this kid a year ago, and even then he was a beast. He seems like a good kid, wish he had a year with Molk and Martin in the weight room, but I'm sure the S&C coaches will make sure he gets his work done, either way he is gonna be hard to move, and he plays with a real nasty streak which I think we need.
He's the recruit I'm most excited for
I love this guy. With 3 key players on the D-Line leaving next year, I cannot wait for Pipkins to come, especially after he has been feasting on O-linemen this year. Plus, having a Head/D-line coach like Hoke teaching him up, he's gonna be a BEAST
Me fail English? That's unpossible!
Great write up and it makes
Great write up and it makes me feel better about this coaching staff. I'm glad Pipkins talking about Hoke "teaching" rather than "telling" players what to do, it seemed to me like that might be the most simplistic, and accurate statement regarding the differences in the two coaching staffs I have heard in quite some time.
-Chet
What you see is the hard work he's put in. It's nature. It just all comes together.
-Craig James
Why do you get negged on
Why do you get negged on every post regardless of content?
"There will be blood on the field and it won't be mine." -KK
are you suggesting that you
are you suggesting that you would only expect that type of petty attitude on an OSU board??? you must not be a Michigan fan...
/s
You will find out all in due
You will find out all in due time. This is Chet's 3rd account or so I believe.
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No. There are very strict
No. There are very strict rules about what receives an up or down votes. Can you imagine if everyone had their own standards? CHAOS. You wouldn't even be able to tell if someone was a good poster by the number of points he has.
-didn't know about chet myself
Galileo was also chastised.
Come on, you should know the
Come on, you should know the answer to that
Oh God, why did I get negged?
Oh God, why did I get negged? Did I catch the Chet disease? Lord save me!!!
"There will be blood on the field and it won't be mine." -KK
You have not caught the Chet disease
Until you sign every one of your posts.
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USING GRATUITOUS AMOUNTS OF CAPS LOCK SINCE APRIL 2011
Oh god
Oh dear Michigan hating god why?
Why?!
-a2_electricboogaloo
USING GRATUITOUS AMOUNTS OF CAPS LOCK SINCE APRIL 2011
I don't know why you are
I don't know why you are getting negged either, especially since you basically said what Pipkins was told by the other players about the current coaching staff.
History has a way of
History has a way of repeating itself. You'll find out in due time. Chet's already had a couple accounts caved because of his trolling tendencies.
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Love him already
Thanks for sharing. Gotta
Thanks for sharing. Gotta love how he keeps mentioning earning a spot, going to be tough to keep him out of the rotation his freshmen year.
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Let's hope he's the
Let's hope he's the persuasive type.
Don't quote laws to us. We carry swords.
-Pompeius Magnus
love it
I love it when big recruits want to be in a winged helmet. Makes me feel great when they talk so highly about the coaching staff and they believe in the program. I also love it when they go out and recruit others and share moments like what Pipkins did. He will me a huge force for the DL. THIS IS MICHIGAN! GO BLUE!
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving isn't for you.
Ondre and Magnuson
They both seem to be working Garnett hard.
I am starting to really like our chances.
I know we have a lot of very promising kids in the fold
but Pipkins is the guy I am most enthusiastic about, by far. I cannot wait to see him in a Michigan helmet.
This is the
first piece that I read that Hoke is a teacher and RR is a director. Hoke is doing things with the guys off the field? Talk about family.... this is good stuff.
From the Red Cedar Message Board: "God hates us." Yes He does Lil Bro, yes he does. Everyone hates you.
I think I've heard some of it before...
That's one of the big things about Hoke. He's may be not the best Xs and Os guy, but what he does know is technique, how to lead, and how to make guys fight for one another. Those are extremely important aspects of a head coach. Coach Hoke is smart enough to leave the plays to Borges and Mattison.
Avatar is a reference to this. Go Blue!
Line
Line play wins in college football. You can never have enough solid lineman on both sides of the ball.
Line play
Wins at every level of football.
Oh how I hate ohio state...
Really?
Great line play in college football can hide a lot of weaknesses, moreso than in the pros IMO.
Aaron Rodgers has never had a great line in Green Bay and they've never been able to run the ball consistently either. Barry Sanders never had the benefit of a spectacular line. Just a couple examples.
The Lions O-line now isn't
The Lions O-line now isn't the greatest either.
"A Michigan Man will coach a Michigan Team"
You are an
Idiot. Every football game high school college pro is won up front.
Oh how I hate ohio state...
U mad?
Wow BRO, didn't realize line play was such a sore subject. Agree to disagree. It's more important at some levels than others.
idiot
tell that to all the injured Qbs that we have had. Lions Qb gets sacked more than any other team each year.
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving isn't for you.
incorrect
The lions were near the top of the NFL in least sacks per pass last year
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Opposing O-linemen be Wary...
Pipkins is going to FEAST ON YOUR SOULS!
I also love the emphasis he is putting on academics, even though he already has a full-ride locked up with Michigan. Nice to see our recruits are willing to put in more than the minimum effort when it comes to education.
love this kid
Ondre is going to be a beast in college. I was especially impressed with his academics quote at the end of the article.
Stay Fit, Be Sharp, Make Good Decisions.
Is it just me or does Ondre
Is it just me or does Ondre look absolutely huge compared to the rest of the D-line in his video.
"The goal, the expectation of this program is the Big Ten Championship"
Should be fun to watch
Molk mentioned becoming a lot better because he practiced against Martin. Hopefully we see the same mutual improvement between guys like Pipkin and Kalis. (Yes I understand Kails is a tackle, but you get the idea.)
Michigan football = life
GO BLUE!!
oh shit pee wee better be
oh shit pee wee better be ready to dominate foos, cus he gunna have some big shoes to fill, ya herd.
Ondre looks like a ...
..
Ondre looks like a ...
.. 3-4 NT. Not that that's going to happen, of course. But with a D-Line of Godin (WDE), Pipkins (NT), and Strobel (SDE) with Wormley as the SOLB, Ojemudia as the WOLB, and RJS and Ross as ILBs.. not to mention a defensive backfield of Countess, Wright, Wilson, and Clark with Terry Rich as the nickel... we could be scary good.
Pharoah Brown would be a better SOLB in a 3-4 than Wormley, but he decided to try TE instead.
We might even be the college incarnation of the steel curtain with that set-up!
I don't believe Brown is
I don't believe Brown is considered a commit after his Oregon visit.
I love this kid's attitude.
I love this kid's attitude. Given the way they all talk about Michigan, you can tell Hoke and the coaches are doing a fantastic job recruiting a class that really understands what the program is about.
Agree, seams like a good kid and lookin forward to seeing . . .
him play
It's interesting that
It's interesting that Rodriguez's former players are saying that he never "taught them how to play football."
I Caught That...
...and found it interesting that they'd tell Pipkins something like that, and it's also interesting that Denard seemed to imply that his former coach really did try to make the Denard Show. Those two implications piqued my curiosity.
As for Pipkins, he did witness history - we've never gone seven years winless in The Game. Of all the potential defensive recruits, he is one of the most exciting and would make a frighteningly good addition to the D-Line, I think.
"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."
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It's something I've heard
It's something I've heard from players on the team before for what it is worth. I never wanted to talk about it much since on some level it sounded like sour grapes and of course isn't something you can confirm. Things like Hoke having to cover "No more pincher bug" and other basics though definitely suggest it is true on some level.
End of the day at least it looks like Hoke has total buyin to his system, which is what matters from here on out.
That's damning, and a trap
That's damning, and a trap some coaches get into. My High school coaches did a lot of that, telling you "PLAY BETTER" and not actually showing you HOW to play better.
No I'm not bitter :)
As a side note somewhere I recall Mattison claiming that the Michigan players, "did not know how to study film properly". I don't recall where I saw that but it was way back in the spring.
One of the coaches on our
One of the coaches on our staff says things like "Make the play" and "We're just not making plays." It drives me crazy because it's not like the kids don't want to make plays. But they're either not good enough to do it (and saying "make the play" won't help) or they don't know the proper technique to do it (and saying "make the play" won't help).
3 and out
In reading 3 and out, one of the things that struck me about 2009/2010 (after the "over practice" allegations) is multiple places where Bacon says straight out and implies that the coaching staff was hesitant to urge kids to do more film work, because they were so paranoid about getting dinged for excessive practice time, even though individual film study hours are "uncountable".
Bloody freep. Rodriguez made plenty of mistakes of his own, but it stinks that Rosenberg and friends had to make things even harder. :(
Rob
I haven't read 3 & out (yet)
I haven't read 3 & out (yet) but that doesn't sound surprising, unfortunately. However I was struck more by Mattions' comment about "proper" film study.
I can't find the original comment but here is an article where Mike Martin says something along those lines:
http://annarbor.com/sports/um-football/michigan-football-teams-mike-mart...
""These coaches did a great job of coming in and stressing the importance of watching film and really teaching us what to look for," Martin said. "Not just the formations, but the little things -- the splits, the pressure keys, how offensive linemen are leaning when they want to pull or down-block."
only thing i didnt like in
only thing i didnt like in this article is saying "they" you are now a michigan man ondre.... its WE
Scheme
In a perfect world, I prefer the idea that the head coach is a scheme guy, and that techniques are taught by replaceable assistants. But I am for whatever works. I don't think it was anyone's preference last year to depend so much on Denard. It wasn't anyone's fault that Fitz was china in a bull shop for most of his first season.
Pipkins is by far-
my favorite recruit coming into this class. I just think the kid is going to be a complete bad ass. He has size, strength and speed. I think we were all amazed at his relatively low rankings on scout and rivals. He's finally getting his props for being the beast he is!
O-Fo-Sho
Academics
Contrast what Ondre says at the end about school work with Washington's comments about going to Ohio. I'm pretty sure we got the right guy...
"A flute with no holes is not a flute. A donut with no hole is a danish"
Ondre is going to be a BEAST. I wish he could've gotten 1 or 2 years with Mike Martin, but more importantly is that he gets 3-4 with Hoke, Mattison and Montgomery.
I can't wait to see what this team does next year. Pipkins is going to be a BEAST down the road.
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