Ondre Pipkins is upset with Josh Garnett
According to Ondre Pipkins Twitter, he's pretty upset with Josh Garnett this evening. He feels he was lied to, and that is pretty much a direct quote. Obviously we don't know what was said to Ondre, but we can guess he thought it meant Garnett was definitely blue.
https://twitter.com/#!/PeeWee9456
Note: I thought this deserved a thread of its own, because the Garnett thread was getting quite long.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:21 PM ^
I'd be interested in knowing if there are particular recruits he is close to at Stanford. I mean, we've all seen that he and Erik Magnuson are tight, what with twitter and him being excited at the possibility of rooming with him. Pipkins seemed like he felt betrayed which would indicate a friendship there. I guess I'm wondering if there were recruits at Stanford he's particularly tight with that were more of a draw, or if it just came down to location in the end. And does he honestly think Stanford is going to reach their previous levels w/o Harbaugh and Luck?
January 27th, 2012 at 12:00 AM ^
In a car wreck sort of way.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:06 PM ^
this feel like a high school break up? Damn, pipkins and I need to stop hanging out with people with drama.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:07 PM ^
where recruits are going to go is a mug's game. You can make educated guesses and that's about it.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:09 PM ^
I don't think he was guessing, which is why he is mad.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:09 PM ^
we still don't know exactly what he was told. If he was told he was solid, I can see why he'd be pissed. Personally, I love the fact he's pissed. Show's he cares, not only about himself, but the team.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:09 PM ^
I feel like it's pretty clear JG told Pipkins he was coming to Michigan.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:10 PM ^
I think the whole point was Pipkins and Garnett were talking to themselves and Garnett told him privately that he would be coming to Ann Arbor.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:39 PM ^
Why do you act like such an ass to the original poster of this topic and then carry on conversations all throughout it?
I'm just curious as to how that mindset works. It seems that someone would just ignore a thread and let it die if he didn't think it should be on the board.
January 26th, 2012 at 8:06 PM ^
Do you read this board regularly? David from Wyoming is always like this.
January 26th, 2012 at 8:45 PM ^
First time I noticed it.
I'll be wary from here on out!
January 26th, 2012 at 7:07 PM ^
Whether Reeves goes Blue or not, I like his style better than Garnetts. I prefer his limited comments compared to all of Garnett's pro UM tweets.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:13 PM ^
You can't blame 17 and 18 year old kids for taking advantage of the attention they are given. However, it sure makes me happier with the kids that we already have commited who didn't feel the need to make their recruitment a big deal.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:12 PM ^
My opinion, is that it's just a misunderstanding. Because from the things you read about Josh Garnett, he seems like a stand up kid that you want to see succeed. Good Luck to Josh, again, but Go Blue!
January 26th, 2012 at 7:14 PM ^
I don't blame Garnett for picking Stanford, but I love Ondre's enthusiasm and love for Michigan. This kid bleeds maize and blue. Can't wait to see him suit up for us.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:14 PM ^
Maybe I shouldn't be frustrated because we have a great class coming in even if we don't get any of the top remaining guys we have targeted. And, maybe that's the nature of dealing with 17 and 18 year old kids. But, sheesh, this process is frustrating. It seems like we would be the logical choice and/or are the front runner only to lose out on a guy. I know you can't get them all, but it has been truely frustrating to see Meyer nail down top recruit after top recruit while we haven't had a big commit in what seems like ages. Not that I expected us to get those guys, but I sure don't want them going to OSU. All that momentum we had going seems to be disapating. Heck, I already saw Adam Rittenburg, the ESPN B1G blogger staking OSU as the 2013 favorite. I'm still hopeful for our remaining targets, but from what I've read I'm finding it hard not to be frustrated by losing out on this one.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:15 PM ^
My considered opinion is that Garnett would look much better in Blue, but I hope he enjoys him college experience.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:16 PM ^
Pip really needs to watch what he says on twitter...
January 26th, 2012 at 7:17 PM ^
Meh, whatevs. We got Kalis off of OSU and maybe even Reeves. The kid wants to go to Stanford and I say best of luck. This why you concentrate your efforts in the Midwest. It is always going to be hard to pull a kid off the West Coast. We were close but distance is usually a big factor and lets face it, it is cold as hell in the winter. Now if this global warming thing kicks in I think we will start winning some of these battles.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:24 PM ^
I didnt realize that even the other schools he once considered were pretty much all west coast schools. To me, that alone shows that it would be a big deal for him to not only leave his state but come across the country. I do respect Coach Hoke and whoever else was in on recruiting this kid, as it appears they presented themselves very well and represented Michigan like true Michigan men.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:51 PM ^
True, but it's not like Palo Alto is a short drive. SFO and SJC are almost a 2 and a half hour flight from Sea-Tac.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:57 PM ^
I think time change is the bigger factor and this is just guessing. It makes it harder for their parents to make it to games especially noon starts. When you take into account time change Michigan is a pretty long flight despite the distance not being all that great.
January 26th, 2012 at 8:16 PM ^
but not jumping time zones makes it possible for weekend trips. This coming from a Michigan transplant in Oregon.
January 26th, 2012 at 8:21 PM ^
Good point. I should have thought of that myself since I'm a Michigan transplant in California.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:28 PM ^
Great point. It's not easy pulling kids from the west coast. You don't want to ignore that region, else guys like Brady, Toomer, Magnuson, Wile would not be Michigan men. However, it's a tough sale with all the good weather, good schools and the distance.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:17 PM ^
The Stanford Medicine shirt was a dead give away. If this guy manages to play major FBS football at a high level and still get into Stanford medical school, I would be impressed.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:24 PM ^
I wish I could get odds on whether he actually becomes a doctor. A lot of kids want to become a doctor, spending 7 years in school is another thing.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:40 PM ^
I'd say there's pretty decent odds....kid is clearly smart and well spoken and has the drive for it. Robert Smith retired early so he could go back.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:42 PM ^
Go back to what? ESPN?
January 26th, 2012 at 8:03 PM ^
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1839937
Fair enough, he didn't actually go/finish, but he was pre-Med at OSU and sat out his sophomore year to focus on academics. Having said that, I don't think there's any reason to believe that Garnett won't go to med school...Myron Rolle quit to take the Rhodes Scholarship
January 26th, 2012 at 8:51 PM ^
During undergrad, I watched 90% of pre-meds flame out. It's not an easy road. And with God knows how many hours they spend in football related activities, I say there's a 99% chance he doesn't make it.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:32 PM ^
That could very well have been used in the recruiting process....like a "Hey, we look out for our own here. You keep the grades up, there's a good chance you'll get in"....and I personally think there's nothing wrong with that. Just saying if he had his heart set on Stanford med school, getting his foot in the door (so to speak) would be awfully tempting to pass up.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:17 PM ^
Would happen. I don't have a good vibe on Diamond. He supposedly has been a lean for a year. How long can you lean and not know for certain.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:18 PM ^
Wow this kid really fooled me! I could have sworn he was 100% Blue... Everything lined up, the visits, the in-home's, the friendship, the smiley faces, the interviews, the tweets etc.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:20 PM ^
aquaman-
Why is he so mad? Just tell us.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:40 PM ^
He (and others) felt like he was going blue and some may feel betrayed, though I don't know if that is the word to use.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:24 PM ^
Let's just say that Ondre is not the only 2012 commit who is "very" surprised that Garnett went to Stanford.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:28 PM ^
Cryptic Aquaman is more Crpytic than TomVH...head asplode
January 26th, 2012 at 7:30 PM ^
I guess i should have been a little more of a believer when he said he really didn't know where he was going to go. The kid had a tough choice to make and he chose what he thought was best for him. It's a little unfortunate if he lead some of our recruits to believe he was going to go blue, but we all need to act like adults(especially the twitter stalkers) and wish this kid the best of luck!
January 26th, 2012 at 7:32 PM ^
I think a lot of people got played. It just doesn't make sense for a cerebral kid like Garnett to claim he has no idea where he's going the night before an announcement date, that was picked out by his sister.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:40 PM ^
going off his comments in interviews and twitter the last few weeks / months I'm surprised. obviously he was telling Ondre and Erik he was comign to AA from the reactions. I hope Josh has a great time at Stanford he seemed to be a great kid , but i'm done with him. We won;t see him in a rose bowl but i hope we see him before he graduates with the pac 12 - big 10 agreements. i know I feel like I was lied to
January 26th, 2012 at 7:30 PM ^
Magna-mad too Aquaman?
January 26th, 2012 at 7:45 PM ^
You said it all
January 26th, 2012 at 7:31 PM ^
If we get Diamond and/or Kozan, I honestly don't think this will turn into much of an issue. Yeah I'd like to have Garnett, but he's earned the right to make this decision, and there really was no wrong answer for him in this. Best of luck to him, until the day he lines up against Michigan.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:34 PM ^
@FilthyJeepGirl is on our side!
January 26th, 2012 at 7:36 PM ^
I will never understand recruiting. With a brand new coach and straight off of a shitty season, we reel in recruits by the pair. After an 11-2 season and a BCS win, not a peep. Just strange.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:37 PM ^
It'll be interesting to see if Magnuson tweets anything about Josh choosing Stanford.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:41 PM ^
but I was curious myself. He said something along the lines of being disappointed and that he tried his best to get Garnett to go blue and he was sorry to Michigan fans that he let them down.