...on Purdue...one game at a time! Wednesday's game is tremendous. Purdue handled Wisconsin @ Wisco...and they aren't going to rollover for us.
I'VE HAD JUST ABOUT ENOUGH OF YOU SONNY
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March 5th, 2013 at 11:21 PM
#52
Please...focus...
March 5th, 2013 at 11:39 PM
#53
Purdue is terrible.
Purdue is terrible.
March 6th, 2013 at 5:53 AM
#54
So is
Penn State.
March 5th, 2013 at 11:21 PM
#55
Do me a favor
and stop saying that.
March 5th, 2013 at 11:24 PM
#56
I asked
this question on the game trhead so I'll post it here as well.
If Sparty beats Wisc, and four teams finish 13-5, who would be the #1 Seed?
March 5th, 2013 at 11:33 PM
#57
I think Sparty.Everyone
I think Sparty.
Everyone would be even against each other at the top (everyone would be 1-1) and once again Wisconsin would be the next tie-breaker. Sparty would be 2-0 agains them. I then think we'd become the 4 seed. Actually maybe not. They lost to Wiscy also which would mean the next tie-breaker team, Minnesota, which we beat twice. Indiana a 4-seed?!
I could be terribly wrong on all of this I'm doing if off the top of my head right now.
Edit: Wrong. Indiana is #1 as they beat Sparty twice.
March 5th, 2013 at 11:31 PM
#58
Not sure...
...but it was mentioned that Michigan's seed won't be good due to the Wisconsin loss.
Apperantly we lose a lot of the tie-breakers.
Now MSU and Wisky still play each other so one of them will fall to 6 losses. We just need to win 2 games, screw the seeds.
I do want to face Wisky in the B1G Tournament again though...and PSU. Those losses just pissed me off. I hope we get the Nittany Lions and then the Bagers right after. Get those losses out of the way in then move on to play one of the Big Boys (no offense to Wisconsin).
March 5th, 2013 at 11:38 PM
#59
If we play PSU, that means
If we play PSU, that means we're the 5 seed and have to play an extra game.
No thanks.
March 5th, 2013 at 11:43 PM
#60
Ah...
I was hoping somehow they'd have to play a game to get to us...forget that then.
March 6th, 2013 at 9:41 AM
#61
Ah...
I was hoping somehow they'd have to play a game to get to us...forget that then.
March 5th, 2013 at 11:43 PM
#62
Or we're the 4 seed and PSU
Or we're the 4 seed and PSU beat Wisky on a buzzer beater half court 4 pt play that caused Bo Ryan's head to explode (a man can dream can't he?)
March 6th, 2013 at 9:41 AM
#63
Not sure...
...but it was mentioned that Michigan's seed won't be good due to the Wisconsin loss.
Apperantly we lose a lot of the tie-breakers.
Now MSU and Wisky still play each other so one of them will fall to 6 losses. We just need to win 2 games, screw the seeds.
I do want to face Wisky in the B1G Tournament again though...and PSU. Those losses just pissed me off. I hope we get the Nittany Lions and then the Bagers right after. Get those losses out of the way in then move on to play one of the Big Boys (no offense to Wisconsin).
March 5th, 2013 at 11:33 PM
#64
Another thing to think about...
Illinois DESTROYED Ohio the first time around, and they're somewhat fighting for the Tournament resume right now.
Ohio could have a little post-IU hangover and Illinois could go in there and get a win. This would obviously help Michigan move up in terms of seeding.
March 6th, 2013 at 9:40 AM
#65
Another thing to think about...
Illinois DESTROYED Ohio the first time around, and they're somewhat fighting for the Tournament resume right now.
Ohio could have a little post-IU hangover and Illinois could go in there and get a win. This would obviously help Michigan move up in terms of seeding.
March 5th, 2013 at 11:37 PM
#66
IU would get the 1 seed.
IU would get the 1 seed. They'd have a 4-2 record against the tied teams. MSU would be 4th @ 2-4. We'd tie OSU at 3-3 but they'd win the tie-breaker for the 2 seed because they'd have a better record against the #5 team (Wisconsin.)
If Wisconsin wins out and we beat IU, they're the 1 seed.
March 5th, 2013 at 11:45 PM
#67
If Wisconsin wins out...
Would that push us to the #4 seed?
Also, I feel like Illinois is going to give Ohio a run for their money.
March 5th, 2013 at 11:53 PM
#68
Yep. Wisconsin would be the 1
Yep. Wisconsin would be the 1 at 3-1 vs. us, IU, and OSU. OSU would be second at 3-3. We'd tie IU at 2-3 but they have a better record against Sparty. So we'd likely face Sparty in the quarters in that scenario. Joy.
March 6th, 2013 at 9:38 AM
#69
If Wisconsin wins out...
Would that push us to the #4 seed?
Also, I feel like Illinois is going to give Ohio a run for their money.
March 5th, 2013 at 11:45 PM
#70
Indiana would get the 1 seed
We get screwed by the tiebreakers. There's no way we can get the 1 seed, and we can only get a 2 if OSU, Wisconsin, and MSU all lose another game. Here's the seeding for the two 4-way tie scenarios:
- Wisconsin
- Ohio State
- Indiana
- Michigan
OR
- Indiana
- Ohio State
- Michigan
- Michigan State
March 5th, 2013 at 11:25 PM
#71
I half-hope Beilien told the
I half-hope Beilien told the guys to stay away from this game tonight, and focus on the only task ahead that matters, Purdue tomorrow night.
March 5th, 2013 at 11:26 PM
#72
2nd Time Ohio has helped us...
First was their win at home vs. MSU
Let's take advantage of it!
Sidenote, Beilein said at the beginning of the year that he felt the winner of this conference would have "4 or 5" losses and I remember the announcers laughing at him and saying it was overkill.
March 6th, 2013 at 6:44 AM
#73
I believe "5-6 losses"
was the quote and clearly remember Dakich having a saracastic chuckle at the thought. 5-6 seemed high to me at the time as I didn't see Indiana losing that many. They still may not. Anyway, that quote stuck with me as the losses started to pile up for these teams. Beilein knows this league.
March 6th, 2013 at 9:39 AM
#74
You're exactly right...
It was Dakich...I also remember because he did the majority of our games early in the year.
March 6th, 2013 at 9:38 AM
#75
2nd Time Ohio has helped us...
First was their win at home vs. MSU
Let's take advantage of it!
Sidenote, Beilein said at the beginning of the year that he felt the winner of this conference would have "4 or 5" losses and I remember the announcers laughing at him and saying it was overkill.
March 6th, 2013 at 10:41 AM
#76
Was this a double post in
Was this a double post in reply to your own comment?
/mind blown
March 5th, 2013 at 11:27 PM
#77
I hope they understand they have something to defend
Beilein needs to remind these guys they can still win back-to-back B1G titles. Any extra motivation would be great to help them focus tomorrow.
March 5th, 2013 at 11:27 PM
#78
Semifinals tomorrow
God willing, Championship game on Sunday. I couldn't care less about b10 tournament seeding...Back to back championships in the best league in the country...That would be one heck of a legacy for Trey Burke to leave at the University of Michigan. Come on blue, you've got this.
March 5th, 2013 at 11:30 PM
#79
(No subject)
March 5th, 2013 at 11:31 PM
#80
Seth
Seth if you post the IU guess the score right now, I swear on all that is holy....
March 5th, 2013 at 11:33 PM
#81
Off topic
But how long will espn keep showing that Clowney hit on V. Smith in the bowl game? It was 1 of 2 effing good plays he had in the whole damn game.
March 6th, 2013 at 12:39 AM
#82
Probably never
as long as the play is on the Best of the Best play. It has not been unseated for weeks.
March 5th, 2013 at 11:34 PM
#83
If It Helps At All...
The prevailing lines that I can find would have Michigan as a 6-7 point favorite, and indeed, Massey and TeamRankings are going with about a 75% chance for a Michigan win. By the numbers, this really is all about the wins now. By many estimates, our chances of winning out are not insignifcant either - by Massey's numbers, it would be a bit less than 40% to win out. Not impressive odds, but not so small as to not garner a mention.
As for Purdue, by the stats, we're much better on offense and about the same on defense, so hopefully, we win tomorrow and the regular season's final game becomes a truly classic, full-of-consquences game.
March 5th, 2013 at 11:34 PM
#84
This is gonna be a grind.
This is gonna be a grind. Woud you rather Michigan lose on friday or saturday next week if it meant they had a longer rest? I think the lack of rest really screwed them last year.
March 5th, 2013 at 11:37 PM
#85
How you can talk about iu
With the pu game tomorrow is completely beyond me
March 5th, 2013 at 11:44 PM
#86
Man, Michigan is half court
Man, Michigan is half court shot and a bad Penn State loss away from having a one game lead in the Big Ten and a chance on Sunday to win the conference out right!
March 6th, 2013 at 9:11 AM
#87
Agreed, but we could've just
Agreed, but we could've just as easily lost to OSU and MSU at home (beat them by a combined 3 points). We're probably right around where we should be (I would argue between Wisconsin/Penn State/3-Point Loss to OSU we should've grabbed one of them, but, it didn't work out like that).
March 5th, 2013 at 11:45 PM
#88
If we win out
Is there a scenario where Michigan and Wisconsin would play in the semis? I think that would be fantastic. And I doubt I'm alone on this.
March 5th, 2013 at 11:57 PM
#89
Two scenarios
If we win out
Two scenarios
If we win out and Wisconsin wins out, we'd be the 4 and they'd be the 1. If both teams go 1-1, we'd be the 5 and Wisconsin the 4, so we'd play them in the quarters.
March 6th, 2013 at 6:32 AM
#90
"Gary Moeller's Wife"?
"Gary Moeller's Wife"? That's your username?
Come on. Let's have a little decency.
March 5th, 2013 at 11:53 PM
#91
We've been given a second
We've been given a second chance, but none of that matters if we don't take care of business at Purdue tomorrow. Purdue may not have a lot to play for, but I'm sure they'd love nothing more than to ruin our hopes for a championship. Step on the gas tomorrow night and don't let up for 40 minutes.
Then we'll worry about Indiana.
March 6th, 2013 at 12:14 AM
#92
So goes it...
I'm in a happy mood for obvious reason. With the win now, this cuts the number of possible permutations from eight to four assuming OSU beats Illinois, Michigan beats Purdue, MSU beats NW, and Wisconsin beats PSU. Obviously if Indiana wins, they claim the title outright. Below listed are the scenarios for seeding going into the Big Ten Tournament.
Indians beats Michigan, Michigan State beats Wisconsin
1. Indiana 14-4
2. OSU 13-5
3. MSU 13-5
4. Wisconsin 12-6
5. Michigan 12-6
Michigan beats Indiana, Michigan State beats Wisconsin
1.Indiana 13-5
2. Ohio State 13-5
3. Michigan 13-5
4. Michigan State 13-5
5. Wisconsin 12-6
Indiana beat Michigan, Wisconsin beats Michigan State
1. Indiana 14-4
2. Wisconsin 13-5
3. Ohio State 13-5
4. Michigan State 12-6
5. Michigan 12-6
Michigan beats Indiana, Wisconsin beats Michigan State
1. Wisconsin 13-5
2. Ohio State 13-5
3. Michigan 13-5
4. Indiana 13-5
5. Michigan State 12-6
As for this week; its weird having to root for your rival to help each other so I guess this means I have to root for Michigan. Go Bl.... I can't do it, just win the damn game; thanks! After this week is over please resume to your normal hate of Ohio State, I wouldn't want it any other way. A few jabs and Ohio jokes on Mgoblog will help to reestablish the hate.
March 6th, 2013 at 12:17 AM
#93
In your final scenario,
In your final scenario, Michigan would be 4 and IU 3. Both teams lost to Wisconsin and split with OSU and each other, but IU has the better record against the 5 seed, so they'd win the tie-breaker.
March 6th, 2013 at 12:22 AM
#94
Confusion
That may be true but you may want to refer to the link here from where I got the scenarios from. I forgot to add it to my post. In addition here are the Big Ten seeding rules.Hope this clears up any confusion or mistakes the author may have made. Everything looked right when I read the article. Sorry for the confusion.
March 6th, 2013 at 12:46 AM
#95
Not your fault. That article
Not your fault. That article mistakenly has IU splitting with MSU instead of sweeping them (interestingly, it also has UM incorrectly splitting with Minnesota). But because IU was 2-0 against MSU, they hold the tie-breaker edge.
March 6th, 2013 at 12:51 AM
#96
Per my friend, who is a
Per my friend, who is a Michigan manager. Coach Beilein said "OK, so no bullshit from you bitches tomorrow," on the bus at the team once IU/OSU went final. I'd like to emphasize, I don't care what you do with Purdue, just beat IU, please? Thanks. Good lookin' out.
March 6th, 2013 at 1:27 AM
#97
Will do.
Will do.
March 6th, 2013 at 10:36 AM
#98
I have a hard time picturing
I have a hard time picturing Beilein saying that, especially 'bitches'
March 6th, 2013 at 11:46 AM
#99
I don't know what to tell you
It was posted on the Internet, so obviously it's correct. I expect ESPN to pick up this story within the hour.
March 6th, 2013 at 2:53 PM
#100
You're right, I'm lying so
You're right, I'm lying so you guys can accept me. Idk what to tell you, coaches swear?
March 6th, 2013 at 1:47 AM
#101
Yes, but what does this do
Yes, but what does this do to the earlier MGOBLOG thread, "ESPN has Michigan in the PERFECT bracket"? So long, perfect bracket. We hardly knew you....
