Onaje Miller versus Dee Hart

the scout rankings are a joke at this point, there is no way the two running backs are even remotely comparable right now. dee hart has offers from texas, florida, fsu, ohio st, michigan, auburn, alabama, etc. who does onaje miller have offers from? it's laughable

I agree. I know that we like to think players Michigan recruits are better than those we don't, but look at their offer lists - Demetrius is being courted by all the popular kids, while Onaje's is very mediocre to decent.

Not saying that Onaje Miller isn't good, but I'll go with the hype on this one. Let's just hope that Hart really does commit.

This is based solely on his offer list, which is very short. Yes, he has some good offers on there and maybe it's so short b/c he committed early to MSU, but I would think that Demetrius Hart is the better back considering his long list of offers from all over the county and from some top powerhouses to boot.

Wrong question; the one you should ask is "is Hart supposed to be that bad?" and the answer is "no" but it's Scout, they can't even create a website that looks like it was made after 1998 so what do they know?

about a site that had nick hill ranked ahead of austin white at one time... so take their rankings FWIW...

First let me start my defense by agreeing with everyone. I think Hart will outperform Miller in every way.

That said I will try to shed some light on this, as stupid as it may be...

I am going with that Scout doesn't really have a lot of good or bad on either guy (how they don't see Hart's potential is another issue). By Scout's stats, Miller is taller, one inch, and has about 15 lbs on Hart. Maybe that is why he is higher.

Again, not that you can't tell from my piss pour defense for Scout, I am all for Hart being the better back here!

While I would agree that Hart should (and likely will) be higher rated, Miller is no slouch. Michigan either offered or might have been close to offering (I have seen differing reports on that). In the end, I think Hart will be more highly ranked by a fair amount but Miller will do OK. Miller was a good get for MSU and Hart (with any luck) would be a good get for UM.

Hart will be punished in recruiting ratings because he doesn't have prototypical NFL size. Rivals has admitted that alot of their ratings are projections of a prospects ability to be drafted in the NFL. Hart is 5'9 (on Scout) or 5'8" (on Rivals), and majority of NFL backs are at least 5'11" So yeah, I doubt Hart will end up a 5 star RB, probably mid 4 star because of his size.

I don't think it's really very close when comparing highlights( I know this is a slippery slope). Another factor is Hart is highly regarded and is considered one of the best backs in FL. When you compare the tapes it's easily evident that the difference in talent level the two play against is vast and Hart's video is much more impressive, even without factoring that in-This should be a no-brainer..Lansing or Orlando?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADleXMgH8uY

millers junior year video

As someone who lives in the same area as Justice Hayes, and have seen him play a few times, I am a little surprised he is ranked as high as he is as well. Nice player, but he doesn't seem top 15 to me. He was easily taken away and ineffective in their playoff game last fall.

Can anyone give me some clarification on how that first name is pronounced? I'm praying it is "Ownage" though deep in my heart I know it is not.

For those of you not too familiar with the recruiting services, it's a very political process. If the top 250 players really were stacked up on talent alone, they would literally all come from TX, FL, CA (and PA and OH to a lesser extent). Obvoiusly there would be some outliers, but not a lot.

Because Scout doesn't want to alienate readers or fans of teams in certain areas, outside of 5* talent, Scout generally will try and distribute the top players so that it's a little more even across geography.

By the way, this isn't some whackjob theory that I came up with. This is what I heard from a very good Scout moderator. I am assuming Rivals is similar, but couldn't tell you for sure...

No disrespect to the kid, but he is not even considered the best back in Michigan.

Personally, I am so impressed with the interviews I have seen of the Hart family that I want to see him in Maize and Blue now more than ever. Irrespective of his success at Michigan and beyond, the Hart family seems to represent and embrace everything that we want coming into the program.

Plus, he is slick, sick and quick :)

Scout's rankings are really preliminary and rivals hasn't assigned star rankings yet. Let's see how they rank out this fall.

Lately there have been lots of 5-star dual threat QBs with questionable pro potential (Pryor, Tebow, Taylor, etc), so I don't think that rivals discriminates against great niche collge players. It sounds like Hart is the same size as Noel Devine, who was a five-star prospect on rivals.

Has offers from all over the place where Onaje Miller wasn't even heard of until he signed with MSU and even then no other big name schools tried to jump on him. I would take Demetrius, it's not even close.

This is why I generally don't put any stock into what Scout or Rivals ranks these people. Offer list is all that matters

I feel like I've seen a bunch of running backs who look like Onaje Miller. I'm just not very impressed with anything I've seen from him. He's okay at a lot of things, not great at anything. I would say his best quality is his balance.

I try not to be a homer, but yeah, I'll take Hart over Miller every time.

Just look at the hair, Harts is clearly better, therefore he will without a doubt be the better collegiate player:
Dee

Onaje

It takes Miller about 64 steps to go 10 yards.

they currently have joe bergeron(Tex commit) ranked above dee hart. no knock on bergeron but hes gonna play FB next year and probably has no future in college at RB. dee hart obviously has a future at RB based on his film. i would give scout 2-3 months to get their player rankings in better shape before pointing it out.

Just wondering, but does anybody know if Hart has an official offer from Florida? I know they aren't always up to date with the offer lists, but Rivals says Florida hasn't offered. Just curious.

http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/article/20110620/GW/306200009/Sexton-...