Reading all the little "insiders" they have Omameh at guard right now. I thought that odd considering his athleticism. I know RR wants him to learn multiple positions and he may end up at tackle eventually , but if he stays at guard what do you read into that??
Omameh Playing Guard
That he is playing guard and someone else is playing tackle
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If he stays at guard I read that it is the best for him and the rest of the OL. Some of the other guys like Lewan and Schofield may be better tackles. Also, in a related thought, they want him on the field and guard is the best place for that to happen right now.
Guards have to be more athletic and mobile than tackles, so it makes sense.
I'm pretty sure someone like Taylor Lewan, a tackle, is more mobile than say, Q. Washington, a guard. lol
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but typically i do believe that guards are suppose to be a little more athletic since they pull around more often then tackles.
guards typically have to be heavier and stronger to deal with 300+ pound DT's/NT's, while tackles need to be more agile and athletic to deal with speed rushers at DE and OLB.
If Omameh stays at guard, then it probably means the coaches like his versatility and are more comfortable with Huyge and Lewan/Schofield at the tackles.
I thought tackles needed to be agile(check) to hold up against the pass rushers. It is nice to have long arms(check) to keep the pass rushers from getting into your body. Maybe the tackles have looked better than the guards so they thought this was the best way to get their best 5 on the field.
Tackles have to be reasonably quick off the edge to pass protect, but guards are the ones who pull and have to get to the second level to block in the run game. They're generally more athletic.
At the college/Pro level, Usually tackles are more athletic to combat edge rushers. At the HS level, some teams prefer their guards to be more athletic so they can execute inside traps and get up to the second level.
As someone mentioned below, you're likely to see the athletic guards in the power/I sets to lead traps. With the spread, you're more likely to see the Tackles leading with Dart/Arrow/Q.
I'm pretty sure guards are more athletic than tackles at all levels. Tackles have to be quick off the edge but otherwise don't have to move all that fast. Compare Steve Hutchinson with Jake Long. Long is no slouch for his size, but Hutch is clearly more athletic.
at a school that runs a spread. We have our best athletes at tackle to run Dart/Arrow/Q.
Different programs and systems require different things from their linemen.
At Michigan right now, I'd say perhaps our three best athletes on the offensive line are Omameh (a guard), Molk (a center), and Lewan (a tackle).
the line over the next couple years could become Lewan-Qwash-Molk-Omameh-Schofield. I wonder where Barnum will go; it seems he's talented enough to compete at either guard or tackle.
WOTS is that Huyge is playing left tackle.
Why would that be? Better feet than Perry D?
Yeah, I think so. A lot of people have been penciling in Dorrestein at LT, but I've said repeatedly that I don't think he's a left tackle. I actually thought they would put Omameh at LT because it seems like we have more backup options and more experience at guard (Barnum, Mealer, Ferrara) than tackle (Schofield, Lewan).
But yeah, this makes sense to me.
Do more pulling on sweeps, traps, counters and such?
I think it makes sense if he's athletic. He can get out there to pile drive defensive guys who want to tackle our speedy midgets!
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nothing (especially on the OL) is set in stone at this point
a few games at right guard last year, so it shouldn't come as a surprise that he is there this year.
Having agility and good feet is very helpful at tackle (esp. left) for pass pro, but you are actually more likely to be blocking at the "second level" as a guard. Some have noted that Guards are the ones that do more pulling. That is true in a classic power-run offense. In a speed/zone blocking scheme like ours a Guard's mobility is important because he will often combo block and then release upfield to take on linebackers. Tackles do this some too in our scheme, but it is a more common responsibility for the Guard.
Stealing Brian's material, see here for an example of what I'm talking about, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jecjyj2-ITg, focus on Omameh at RG. That is a 5 yard run if the LB Omameh runs into is left free. He makes it a 10 yarder.
The timing here is not as typical, but the action is the same http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mrz8WJgOA0
We need our Guards to engage in a brief double team and then burst forward to wreak havoc with the LBs and safeties. Omameh, with his great feet and explosiveness, is a perfect fit.
It's almost unreal how athletic Omameh looks in those videos. In the 2nd video he was sprinting 15 yards down-field leading the way for Forcier.
so far is Huyge (LT), Schilling (LG), Khoury (OC), Omameh (RG), Dorrestein (RT)
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However, your ability to read their writing is impressive.
Just b/c you don't like what they have to say? GBMW has a few writers for scout and one of them is a high school football coach in Ann Arbor. They get in on some practices and they know a lot of people around the Michigan program. GBMW is one of the best places to get honest analysis surrounding the Michigan program.
Brian's UFRs are one of the best places to get honest analysis surrounding the Michigan program.
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What? I think I see the joke you were trying to make but it's fairly unclear whether or not you were actually trying to make a joke. I didn't say "the best". I said "ONE OF the best", as in there's other sources.
Good point. The grammar on that site is beyond atrocious.
That appears to be the consensus so far (though Molk is virtually guaranteed be starting center in the fall if and when he's healthy). It will be interesting to see who competes for playing time with the older guys. It's a bit scary to have H and D as our tackles, given their slow feet, but they are clearly the most experienced.
When I read the title I thought, "Holy shit that's a big guy that can move!" Still true, but not like a basketball guard.
"That LT spot is going to be interesting. Omameh was good at RG and that would be a really solid interior line with Molk and Schilling. Omameh was awesome at getting downfield onto the LB's and don't know if he can utilize that as much at tackle? It will definitely be a battle for the tackle spots. I'd say, only based on playing time this year that Huyge and Dorrenstein are the favorites, but I'm sure we would all love for one of the younger guys to step up and give them a fight."