because fans were left with so much optimism that THIS WAS IT THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. i also remember them dripping with swagger in that game...
"Old School" Michigan BB games
Pretty much everybody expected Kentucky to roll over Fab 5 and it's justified when Kentucky has dominated the entire NCAA tourney while the Fab 5 sort of limped into the final 4. Kentucky also has one of the better player in the country in Jamal Mashburn.
This is probably the best game that Fab 5 have played and they did such a great job of frustrating Kentucky which took them out of their game. Juwan Howard did a fine job of guarding Mashburn which is a gamble by the coaching staff but it paid off well
while the game against UK was a great game, it was a much tougher game for UM than the game UNC had against Kansas, which preceded UM-UK in the double header. UM was not nearly as energized two night later, ignoring the time-out call.
I think you're both right. I always felt that the Kentucky game was the high point of the Fab Five experience and I think they were a bit spent when it came time for the championship.
After all these years, I still can't get over the talent disparity between the teams. It's not like Carolina had scrubs, but no one in their line-up had a career like Webber, Howard, or Rose. It also seemed partly like a demonstration that good coaching matters.
I was there and one of the coolest thing about that game has seldom been talked about (or at least I've never seen it). On Thursday before the game both teams had an open practice at the Superdome. And both teams were on the floor for a bit at the same time - Michigan at one end and Kentucky at the other.
At one point Kentucky started launching 3's......hitting one after another. Michigan started dunking. Kentucky players started stepping back a bit further from the line.....Michigan started doing more crazy dunks. And both teams were watching each other.
Finally Kentucky was shooting from well behind the pro three point line at the same time C-Webb, Jalen, King & Jackson were all throwing down with a variety of tomahawk, windmill and other insane dunks (Howard wasn't really into it for some reason). Both teams watching each other....both teams trying to intimidate in their own own way.
It was fantastic.
IIRC, Howard's ups left a little to be desired.
...is Ricky Green, Phil Hubbard, and Steve Grote.
Well, that's why I put it in quotation marks. After the past decade we have had, these games feel more "old school" than they actually are.
Was listening to U-M basketball on the radio recently. PBP man Matt Shepherd mentioned Steve Grote and to my disappointment, color man and former U-M team captain David Merritt had absolutely no idea who Shepherd was talking about. This is truly embarrassing, especially when you consider U-M hoops has an end of the year award named after Grote. Clearly, somebody is not doing a good job of selling/teaching the rich history and tradition of U-M basketball to players of a more recent vintage.
From a UM historical perspective I'd love to see all Fab 5 era stuff on there; whatever the NCAA says I still remember watching that stuff as a 7-10 year old and would love to see it with a new perspective now.
That was an awesome game. Funny how things like Webber fouling Hurley on the three, up three late in the game come right back to you when you see it again.
The other thing that jumps out at me is that UM should go back to that court. Everyone has the "retro" classic type look now. That yellow lane with the M at center court is quality.
Honestly, for me, the Fab Five were what got me into liking U of M. I grew up 500 miles away, had parents who attended a different Big Ten school, etc. The Fab Five became prominent when I was 11-14 years old (counting the year when Jalen, Jimmy, Ray, and Juwan were still there) and it does make me wonder if I'd have ended up attending U of M if they'd never existed. Loved, loved loved the Fab 5. It really sucks that it's all tarnished now. But those memories, and that team. . . iconic.
Definitely the most energetic crowd I experienced in my undergrad years at UM. Would love to see Crisler rockin' like this again.
My only bone to pick with the Fab 5 years (besides, obviously, the Ed Martin scandal) was being a faithful student hoops season ticket holder the previous two years - including the mediocre '90/'91 season with D. Calip as our stud, supported by Sam Mitchell, Rich McIver, Tolbert, Talley and Riley - then getting my ticket status eliminated when the lottery system was enacted due to high student ticket demand. Suck it fairweather fans! Where were you when Tolbert was launching ill-advised "3"'s and Rich McIver couldn't hit a FT to save his life?! Not bitter at all.
I want to see the game where Billy Packer chastises them as disgraceful. I think it was a win over MSU when Jalen got up on the scorers table and danced after the final buzzer.
I remember that… I believe it was Juwan Howard dancing on the table. Part of me loved it, part of me cringed.
If I remember correctly, the MSU fans spent a decent amount of that game chanting crack house at Jalen Rose. When you taunt someone all game long you can't get too upset when they get worked up.
Actually, I'd love highlights of all the Fab Five games. Whether it be the Martin controversy or not, BTN or ESPN Classic never play them and correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Fab Five pretty much change college sports for better or worse? In fact, Fab Five should have been a 30 for 30 episode!
but I seem to remember reading a Bill Simmons piece stating that ESPN 30 for 30 was such a success that the network was going to work on a new series of documentaries, one of which was to be the Fab 5...can anyone confirm/remember this or am I just losing it?
You are correct. The Fab Five documentary will air March 13 at 9pm.
Does anybody have a schedule for ESPN future documentaries like Fab 5, Steve Bartman, etc.?
I saw the "Beyond the Glory" that Fox Sports did a few years ago, which was really interesting. I just put this in my calendar to record on 3/13/11. Can't wait.
I'd love to see that game again!
any win over msu, especially in the last decade when they were least expected, would be pretty sweet.
I'd love to see highlights of these again.
Bring on the Fab Five. I could give two shits about Ed Martin, because I'm certain that there are 2 Ed Martins in East Lansing, 2 Ed Martins in Lexington, 2 Ed Martins in Syracuse...
And it would be just desserts if EL's version of Ed Martin were ever exposed. I would love to see MSU have to fight out of the hole Michigan has had to for the last ten years. I had "high" hopes that the Zach Randolph drug investigation in Indianapolis would expose a "bread crumb trail" back to EL, but it hasn't happened yet.
One can always hope, though. This year is going a long way to prove that Tom Izzo's success is predicated a lot more on having ten years of carte blanche for recruiting instate and the talent it helped bring in than any great coaching prowess.
I'm not saying that Izzo can't coach, but I am saying that he would have a lot less Final Fours on his resume if the Martin debacle hadn't tilted recruiting so far in his favor. As we are seeing this year, it only takes a few less four or five-star players to turn MSU into a mediocre program.
And if they were made into torrents, I'd probably download and burn them so I can have them forever and show my son someday. Or daughter. Late-80's to early-90's college hoops, generally, was (in my mind) the best it got because of the talent level and the iconic teams and players. Just think, for example, about how absurd the Big Ten was in 1989; the documentary they run on BTN about it is really good.
I would love to see all those basketball games! Hope they make it to youtube.
You can catch the championship game against St. Johns from time to time, but the semi against the Illini, who had defeated UM both times the teams met in the regular season, was a classic. Thank-you, Sean Higgins.
Was hoping for Antione Joubert (gerri curl),Gary Grant "old school".
Some epic Big Ten battles.
God I despised Bob Night when we played IU, loved him otherwise .
That was Seton Hall, with P.J. Carlesimo, not St. John's. What a game! The Final Four was in Seattle that year. My brother was doing an internship there and some very nice folks from North Carolina offered him a spare ticket to the championship game. That remains the only college basketball game he ever attended – Michigan's only national championship, and in overtime to boot. When he called the next day I said did you get a chance to watch that game? He said "I was there!"
Would especially love to see anything from the 80's ... loved those teams!
I would also love to see the end of the UM-MSU game at Crisler the Fab Five's freshmen season. Sparty won, and Mark Montgomery was dribbling up across half court holding his finger high in the air with a "we're number one" sign. Juwan promplty came across and hip-checked him into the scorer's table and a brou-ha-ha nearly ensued.
By the way, the old O-state arena was St. John arena, where Jimmy Jackson and little Jay Burson plied their craft (not at the same time, obvs.).
I don't remember the year ('95?) or the opponent, but watching Traylor break the backboard in person at Crisler was outstanding. It was anti-climatic, of course. We had to sit around for 20 minutes while they rolled in a new basket. But I'll never forget watching him high-step it all the way to the other end of the court.
I've mentioned this on some other board topic. One game I'd really like to see again is the regional final in '89. Michigan beat Virginia really badly: 102-65. Glen Rice and Sean Higgins combined to shoot some ridiculous number (70+%) from the three-point line on *many* attempts. Not much of a game, really, but fun to watch ...
I attended every basketball in Crisler and many post season games from 1980 to 1993, and several others before and since. The memories run deep and Ed Martin doesn't come to mind in reliving those memories at all. It was a formative time for myself, family and friends with whom I shared those times.
My sincere thanks for all you do.
Whatever you have time for is fine by me, but I would watch all of them
Yeah! I loved the Fab 5, scandal or no scandal. I'd love to see the highlights of the 1993 NCAA tournament game against UCLA. When we got smoked in the 1st half by Ed O'Bannon but fought back to overcome a 20+ point deficit. One of my all time fav games...also the game against Temple too. That was one dirty game there! Go Blue!
Put them all up there Wolv Historian!! That would be great! Loved watching those games in the 90's!!! Thanks! ROB PELINKA FOR 3!!!!!!
One more reason to spend hours on YouTube. Definetly the '88 game, only chance to see GLEN!!! Rice. Sorry, can't say that name with out yelling GLEN!!!
I'll watch all the games. Loved the 88 Iowa game. Unbelievable good time that day.
I miss the Gary Grant days. He used to watch the Big 10 games on our dorm TV. His comments about opponents were hysterical.
"Iron My shirt woman"
I'd love to see the WH brand expand to Michigan basketball as well as football. If you get some epic hockey tapes as well, I'd love to see those as well (a la The Big Chill highlights).
I think one of my favorite eff you games was when the news linked Jalen to a crack house(Not sure of the story exactly but somehow Jalen was in trouble, but it seemed like he was falsely accused thru my Maize glasses) and we went to Illinois. The Illinois crowd was all over Jalen and Jalen played probably his best game ever as he stuck it right back in the crowds face. I was jacked watching that game.