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February 21st, 2013 at 12:17 AM
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JeremyFallon
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oklahoma pursuing jerry montgomery

According to the michigan board on espn, oklahoma is pursuing jerry montgomery to fill their vacant defensive line coaching spot.  Although going from Michigan to Oklahoma to take the same position seems like a step down, I could definitely see Montgomery taking an offer from Oklahoma considering Michigan basically has two other defensive line coaches with Hoke and Mattison.  Going to Oklahoma would allow him to independently coach his own position group, and would likely come with a pay raise.  If Dave Brandon is smart, he will counter an Oklahoma offer and lock up Montgomery, whom I believe is next in line for defensive coordinator when Mattison retires.  Thoughts?

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February 21st, 2013 at 12:22 AM | Please don't go. Dave Brandon (Score:5 Normal)
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Please don't go. Dave Brandon should pay him more to stay. This guy is a great, young coach and we need to have him.

February 21st, 2013 at 5:13 AM | pay him? (Score:1 Normal)
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I definitely want him to stay but most people on here bitch about ticket prices, the arms race and greed in college football. I'm for paying him. Just remember that it comes at a future cost. Keep up with the Jones.

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February 21st, 2013 at 6:44 AM | "Bitching?" (Score:-1 Normal)
February 21st, 2013 at 7:43 AM | I think the money goes to (Score:5 Normal)
coldnjl
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I think the money goes to other project besides coaches, and football is where that money comes from...example  http://support.mgoblue.com/south-campus/explore/ 

 There There are reasoIf you want to keep up with tOSU and have an elite athletic department...shut up and take the pinch to the purse. If not..."bitch away"

February 21st, 2013 at 9:21 AM | Sadly, I think some people on (Score:5 Normal)
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Sadly, I think some people on here will bitch up anything. 

February 21st, 2013 at 11:09 AM | I hate posts like this (Score:5 Funny)
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Posts like this are ridiculous. :)

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February 21st, 2013 at 3:34 PM | You make it sound like (Score:3 Normal)
snarling wolverine
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You make it sound like Brandon is personally profiting from high ticket prices.  

February 21st, 2013 at 7:08 AM | Yes, pay (Score:5 Normal)
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That is a word the Big ten needs to learn to become competitive. Fortunately, Brandon has heard of it before.

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February 21st, 2013 at 9:17 AM | Can't tell if serious (Score:2 Normal)
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but Michigan hasn't needed to raise ticket prices to cover the costs of anything. I thought that much was obvious to all. It's certainly been discussed here ad infinitum.

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February 21st, 2013 at 12:25 AM | Having been to Norman and (Score:4 Normal)
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Having been to Norman and lived in Oklahoma for a few months this should be a no brainer. Those who stay...

February 21st, 2013 at 6:45 AM | This dude coached in (Score:5 Normal)
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This dude coached in motherfucking Laramie, Wyoming.

I don't think he's afraid of Norman.

February 21st, 2013 at 12:08 PM | I happen to live (Score:5 Normal)
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In motherfucking Laramie, WY. What is so bad about the "Gem City of the Plains"?

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February 21st, 2013 at 12:22 PM | The cold keeps the riff-raff (Score:5 Normal)
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The cold keeps the riff-raff out.

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February 21st, 2013 at 1:35 PM | I lived in Oklahoma for four (Score:1)
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I lived in Oklahoma for four years and TBH I love Ann Arbor, but if you find the right neighborhood in Norman there's not really an appreciable difference.  The only thing I think would steer him to stay(all other things being equal) is he has kids and the schools in Oklahoma don't have the same reputation.   You can counter the brutal Oklahoma summer with the miserable Michigan winter and the weather becomes a wash and both schools have incredible football tradition and good programs.

Basically my point boils down to this: if Oklahoma tries to pry him away.....PAY THE MAN.

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February 21st, 2013 at 1:40 PM | Jerry has Iowa connects, both Stoops brothers have (Score:1)
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Iowa connects. There are other things at work.

February 21st, 2013 at 12:25 AM | ..... (Score:-1 Overrated)
February 21st, 2013 at 12:25 AM | He is a great recruiter as well (Score:4 Normal)
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Those who stay WILL be champions

February 21st, 2013 at 7:16 PM | That statement (Score:1)
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Comes in handy!

 

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February 21st, 2013 at 12:25 AM | montgomery is probably not (Score:5 Normal)
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montgomery is probably not the next d coortinator, but i still hope they keep him around. both mallory and smith have been dcoordinators while montgomery has no experience. hopefully we dont have to think about d coordinators for a while though

February 21st, 2013 at 12:38 AM | Love the heck out of Mark Smith (Score:2 Normal)
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and the job he has done in conjunction with Mattison, but I feel he is past his prime (age) to be tapped as the new DC if it is required within less than 3 years.  I'm not endorsing Montgomery, but Smith just does not seem like a viable candidate.  

 

EDIT:  Bolden, Ross, Demens, Ryan . . .  I know he's not the end all be all of our LB core, but jeez, something is going right there.  

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February 21st, 2013 at 12:42 AM | yea man i agree, definitely (Score:1 Normal)
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yea man i agree, definitely would rather him stay at lb coach, but just staying i highly doubt montgomery is the next d coordinator. luckily, and hopefully this is hypothetical for a while

 

February 21st, 2013 at 12:51 AM | Honestly I am not trolling (Score:3 Normal)
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honestly i am not trying to troll you, but I did not understand your response.  Could you reiterate it for me please?

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February 21st, 2013 at 1:12 AM | That's because it didn't make (Score:5 Normal)
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That's because it didn't make any sense.  

February 21st, 2013 at 12:27 AM | NOT GONNA HAPPEN! (Score:3 Normal)
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Well, please don't let it happen... Just please don't happen, that's it.

February 21st, 2013 at 12:29 AM | These rumors are legitimate, (Score:3 Normal)
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These rumors are legitimate, at least according to OU people....he might've have even interviewed for the job, but I'm very skeptical about that. Michigan should be able to counter; I see this as asking for a pay raise (he is lowest paid on our staff).

February 21st, 2013 at 12:32 AM | I wouldn't call it a step down (Score:5 Normal)
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but it certainly isn't a step up.  I haven't read over any financials that I could find (maybe they are out there, but, alas, I am on my phone) so aside from that, I don't see any reason for him to make the jump.   

Michigan has a long-standing tradition of hiring within.  If JM wanted to move up to DC or further, it seems like a sure shot he could do so by remaining at Michigan.   

Maybe my Maize and Blue glasses are glued on, so differing opinions are welcome.   

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February 21st, 2013 at 12:32 AM | Why would you not stay with (Score:5 Normal)
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Why would you not stay with the talent infusion coming? You could hav a rising stock being part of a great defense in the next couple years.

February 21st, 2013 at 12:38 AM | It's not really a step down, (Score:5 Normal)
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It's not really a step down, to be fair. And he'd probably get a significant pay raise. But it would definitely be no better than a lateral move. It would also be a risk without a significant upside, since he probably doesn't have as many recruiting ties in Big XII country. My guess is that Hoke matches whatever Stoops offers him and he stays in Ann Arbor.

February 21st, 2013 at 12:38 AM | Psst, go read the OT thread (Score:5 Normal)
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Psst, go read the OT thread below abt LSU. Find the links abt this topic. JM was mentioned in an OU blog abt dline coaching replacements. Long list and he was nearly last almost a "oh by the way" remark.



Totally rumor and no credence. Congrats though, you will be laughed at yet again!

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February 21st, 2013 at 12:39 AM | OU should really consider Gerg (Score:2)
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Gerg and his stuffed beaver would really motivate OU's line.

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February 21st, 2013 at 12:58 AM | Well the beaver is the most (Score:5 Normal)
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Well the beaver is the most diligent worker in the animal kingdom....

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February 21st, 2013 at 6:31 AM | (No subject) (Score:5 Normal)
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February 21st, 2013 at 6:34 PM | No clue why this posted here (Score:3 Normal)
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nor where I intended it to go, but it works.

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February 22nd, 2013 at 1:48 AM | Bless (Score:2)
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Bless the hard working beavers. 

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February 21st, 2013 at 12:41 AM | He will have to get used to the sleet (Score:1)
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and tornado, etc.

Seriously, unless there is a significant pay raise, I don't see him taking the same position unless he feels he is not welcome here any more (roushar, anyone?) The truth is the opposite. He is surrounded by great Dline coaches and someday his time will come.

February 21st, 2013 at 12:41 AM | Do we know which current (Score:1)
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Do we know which current commits he personally recruited? And if he decided to leave do you guys think that some sort of attrition would follow? I really like Jerry and his intensity. He seems like a really great young coach and a guy that can definitely relate more to the players then maybe some of the older guys. I really want to keep him in AA. Please Mr. Brandon pull out the checkbook and give the man some greenbacks because if you don't, someone will.

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February 21st, 2013 at 12:54 AM | He was the main recruiter for (Score:5 Normal)
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He was the main recruiter for all 3 current commits

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February 21st, 2013 at 12:47 AM | I'm not sure how much we (Score:1)
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I'm not sure how much we should worry. I get the professional aspect of it, wanting to have more autonomy in his position. However, financially, I don't think it'll be a problem to match whatever is offered or offer something that would get him to stay. Brandon knows the importance of good recruiting coaches and I'm pretty sure he said in the past that he is not afraid to pay assistant coaches (I can't find the quote at the moment). I'm not really worried about this to be honest.  

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February 21st, 2013 at 12:52 AM | Dave Brandon, use your piles of BTN money (Score:5 Normal)
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to give this man a raise and keep him here. It will be indicative of how our program stacks up nationally (resource spending-wise) based on whether we get outbidded by OU for Jerry to go to the exact same position

February 21st, 2013 at 12:59 AM | He might get a small pay (Score:4 Normal)
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He might get a small pay raise, but I'm sure we are recruiting at a much better level at the positions he coaches. If I'm him, I wouldn't leave for the same position. If our recruiting is any indication, our DL will be nasty very soon. He would have an opportunity to be a DC somewhere in the future, maybe even at Michigan. 

February 21st, 2013 at 1:05 AM | I really want him to stay. If (Score:-1 Offtopic)
February 21st, 2013 at 1:07 AM | Not surprising. (Score:5 Normal)
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Among all of our coaches, he definitely is the one that best fits the "young rising star" mold.  He has had success both coaching kids up and recruiting, and we should expect to see him get offers.  I hope Brandon offers him a raise to keep him, because I think his recruiting ability is very important to the team.

February 21st, 2013 at 1:36 AM | Opportunity. (Score:3 Normal)
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It isn't a problem for DB to match any OU offer and I do think the upside for advancement is better at Michigan. We seem to be smarter than most BIG teams in hiring (Hoke, etc.): I hope we are smarter than UW in keeping valuable coaches/recruiters.

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February 21st, 2013 at 1:43 AM | Yes Mattison, (Score:1)
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February 21st, 2013 at 1:50 AM | Does Montgomery have any ties (Score:1)
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Does Montgomery have any ties to Oklahoma (the school or the state)?

February 21st, 2013 at 2:43 AM | Whether or not he leaves, our (Score:1)
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Whether or not he leaves, our D-Line will be just fine with Mattison at the helm. But I'm hoping he stays. Seems like a great recruiter. Brandon, better dip into those deep pockets of yours. This guy needs to stick around.

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February 21st, 2013 at 2:47 AM | Michigan>Oklahoma nuff said (Score:1)
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Michigan>Oklahoma nuff said

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February 21st, 2013 at 2:53 AM | Jackie Shipp, OU's former (Score:2)
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Jackie Shipp, OU's former defensive line coach who had been there since Stoops arrived in 1999, was paid 270k last year.  Montgomery made 212k. Hopefully Brandon just writes him a check for the difference and sends him back out on the recruiting trail.

February 21st, 2013 at 4:13 AM | Pay Him (Score:4 Normal)
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February 21st, 2013 at 4:29 AM | It's not always about money in Montgomery's position (Score:2 Normal)
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He's a bright young coach...unless his aspirations are to stay a DL coach, I don't see why he wouldn't go where he felt he had the best chance to advance his career.

The majority of this board made moves like this early in their career. I know I took less money for a title at a different school knowing that title would help me with the job afterwards (it did).

If this is a lateral move, sure, stay. But just because it's the same title doesn't make it a lateral move.

FYI, Hoke coaches the DTs and Montgomery coaches the DEs. I believe Mattison's focus is on SLB/WDE.

So really the SDE spot is the only position that Montgomery has on his "own"...and of course Hoke and Mattison are going to help their as well.

Maybe this is a chance to get the entire DL and more administrative duties that will help him become a Def. Coord. one day.

...I hope Montgomery does whats best for him. You're always going to lose bright young talent. That's usually a positive. So let's get off Brandon...he pays his assistants. Also we're talking about a DL coach at MICHIGAN, it's not going to be about money. They can find enough money to pay Montgomery in a desk drawer somewhere.

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