This is maaaaybe premature there, ESPN. Maryland #1 FWIW.
Ok I'm done
Time to give up this junior college s#!t and get back to Michigan football, dammit.
Hey dumbass, we get it, you keep reposting this in every thread. Both of you can go away, Michigan football will be better without you.
While I may not agree with his nor the OP's opinion, both are well within their rights to have and share that opinion just as we are within our rights to disagree with them.
But this response was unnecessary.
I agree that you can share your opinion, but this guy posted the EXACT same thing in this thread: http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/rr-lost-me-supporter. I'm fine with someone sharing their opinions as long as they pose them in a way where a logical discussion can be had.
I have been reading this blog forever, since the beginning, and rarely ever post. However, I have reached my boiling point with Rich Rod as well. The team is so undisciplined and makes so many mistakes that it's nauseating. I have watched as all my friends have become MSU fans (ugh) and have tried to convince them all that RR is a good coach and just needs time. I honestly believe that is wrong now. The guy can only coach offense and it's pitiful to watch Michigan's defense AND special teams. They can't kick a damn KO let alone a FG. You cannot win giving up the amount points we do. In regards to the amount of talent on ST and Def., quit telling me he didn't inherit any. Even if RR inherited the talent level of Brandon High School he has had 2.5 years to rectify that. I will continue to support the team and I won't bash any players or boo ( shame on you guys) but I now serisouly doubt the direction of the program. I hope I'm wrong.
were Michigan fans but are Michigan State fans now? Your friends are garbage. You should find new friends. They were never Michigan fans to begin with. They are fans of winning.
Go easy on them, think how much money the Big Ten schools make as they shift allegiances and have to buy new gear every few months. And in this Michigan economy? Forget the Big Ten options; I hope they become Western Michigan fans next week.
Here's to mercurial, erratic fans!
GEAUX_BLUE might have an inferiority break down and ban you to the depths hell.
HE IS MOD AND IN CONTROL OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE HERE!
I get. You're pissed. You think, even with our roster, we should win every game we play. I get it. I'm sure you picked us going 10-2 before the season (why else would you be so pissed at this loss?). That doesn't mean RR SUXORS at coaching, it means you're unrealistic.
I also know that if you don't cool off someone not called mgoblog.com, you're going to get banned, or negged like mad.
We just played probably the second best team we'll play this year. We lost by 10 after beating them in most statistical categories. Be upset, but don't be like this.
No not at all...I thought we should be 8-4 but after the last 2 weeks I really question RR. I thought the defense was the problem but its more than that and yes I'm pissed about the game but damn! This offense is as bad as the defense.
as far as what I said about Geaux_Blue...he is Napoleon .
who i have banned or done anything to bc of what they said?
I guess it was the Napoleon remark... sorry shorty (sad face).
Sorry to let you down
no one cares go away please!
It happens. Michigan will lose to good, ranked teams.
Michigan might not even beat another good team, but I think they might take care of business against the cellar dwellers to barely get into a bowl.
When they lose to Illinois 3 years in a row, get the pitchforks out.
So you're telling me to prep the pitch fork? B/c that Illinois team isn't a pushover (which is what it takes for us to win a game).
After today's Illinois performance against MSU, ILL is not a team to take lightly. They have the best RB in the Big10 and their D-Line performs very well.
that's a spread dominated coach that has a proven winning record with second full year recruits that are sophomores and the rest are predominantly freshman. Let me know a couple names and I will let you know my choice, thanks.
Pat Fitzgerald. Not that he would come.
So a team that cant beat halfway decent teams is that really an upgrade?
I'd say a team that can't beat halfway decent teams is a parallel move.
John L Smith.....no wait, I take that back
We lose to a pretty damn good MSU team and a really good Iowa team so now you are shutting it down. Alright.......fine, but when RichRod does succeed please don't be in support.
Wish I could +1 more than just once.
but your missing the squeakers against powerhouse teams such as UMASS and Indiana. But your right, we played 2 good teams horribly, but bc there good, lets not count it
Yeah, man, I yearn for the days when we blew out the 1-AA/FCS teams we played! Amirite? WHO'S WITH ME?
your/your/there for the victory.
Pardon my ad hominem, but I'd find coaching critiques much more pursuasive if they'd come from people with high school diplomas.
If you don't own season tickets and are all upset -- go find another team to call your own.
If you do own season tickets and are fed up -- I double dog dare you to let them go and not renew them next season.
I dare you.
Triple Dip, Double Dog Dare you now. You're pissed, but too skeered to let go of your tickets -- because you know that Michigan will be back on top in short order, and once you get out, you can kiss your seats goodbye.
There ought to be a denotation in the ticket database that anyone who drops their tickets now, never has another opportunity to get on board again. That won't happen, but .....
I support this team and our Michigan coaches. I wear the colors - win or lose - because there will never be another team in my heart to root for and cheer on.
Go friggin Blue!
I bet you predicted a 7-5 season at the begining of the year, but now you're disappointed.
You're an idiot.
Move on to elevenwarriors.
Wait, am I in someone's emo livejournal? You're feeling crappy because of the game, as are many--but it's not the time to make sweeping proclamations about your support or fandom, IMO.
Let's talk about this tomorrow when we're sober.
Like I always say, we have the worst fans in the country and it's not close.
We won't miss you at all.
How, exactly, has he had time to create better? Dude's had exactly 2 full recruiting classes. You say he can't do better, then how the hell do you explain the West Virginia years?
Thanks for sharing. I'm sure there are other message boards for other teams that you could post your new allegiance to. Save me this "I used to believe in RR, but now..." crap - you hate losing. Everyone does. But every good team goes through stretches like this, and I really do feel like this team is growing. Despite being down 21 entering the 4th quarter, the team responded by really putting a scare into a top-15 team and, with some maturity on the defensive side and a bit of luck, maybe pulls out a win. Yeah, if this team loses the next 3 games it will definitely be time to look for a new coach, but UM has lost to two teams with a combined 1 loss between them, and that one loss was on the road against a top-10 team. It happens.
to chill out bro! Michigan is a good offensive football team. The defense is absolutely awful. It happens we are flat out not as good as iowa! We need to stay the course and have faith. When the defense gets better we will see results. If you seriously down with michigan then fine, we dont need you!
Is our defense terrible? We held a very good Iowa team to 383 yards of total offense, even though our offense kept giving them the ball with room to work with. We held them to 3.8 yards per rush, even though they have a very good rushing offense. We gave up 248 yards through the air. Pretty average.
They had a lot of points because we kept turning the ball over, or letting them return our FG's. Our defense did not play a bad game today.
Kenny Demens! Better than Ezeh!
And they aren't a good rushing team. They were in the 50's nationally. They weren't even the best in their state. But no, it wasn't our worst defensive performance.
I don't know how you can say Michigan's defense did not play poorly. They allowed Iowa to score TDs on 3 of their 5 (meaningful) first half possessions. In the second half, Iowa scored 2 TDs and 1 FG on their six possessions. Allowing scoring drives over 50% of the time is not a sign of a good defense.
but I seriously can't stand most of the people I have to cheer with. When the goings get tough, jump off the wagon. Freaking babies. 1969-2007 spoiled people into irrational hopes.
'69 through 2007. Yes, we had good regular seasons. Yes, in the early part of the Bo era we were helped by the scholarship rules. On the negative side, during those years we won only one NC, and lost more bowl games than we won. Ok, our goal was the Big 10 Championship, and we did a fine job of that.
We are entering a new era. It is not pain-free. Get over it folks. I am so tired of hearing these so-called fans I just don't have words.
Well it will be a lot easier to win bowl games now that we go for 1-2 wins in the b10 every season. Its a lot harder when the bowl game is the rosebowl. The lengths people go to downgrade the former coaching staff and give excuses to this one amazes me
You won't find a single negative comment that I have made toward the program, a player, or a coach. What passed for success 40 years ago has changed. Get over it.
no longer passes for success? I'd take a .500 b10 season at this point. I think we're finding out that its wasn't exactly easy to be in the championship picture for the b10 every year. But by all means, we really won today b/c we outgained the other team. If it wasn't for those turnovers and penalties.
Has Ohio State adopted this new standard for success the last decade or so? They seem to stuck in the old outdated mindset of winning league championships and racking up 10 win seasons.
College Football is more balanced then ever, I'll give you that. But you can't deny that Michigan football isn't going to be anything but a middle of pack program with a cool brand unless we collectively demand excellence.
I have no clue when it is reasonable to demand wins against good conference teams. In light of how bad we looked for large stretches of the game today, it is fine to give the more critical posters the benefit of the doubt.
We just beat Iowa in every statistical catergory except penalties and turnovers. We're a good team, but one that still makes too many mistakes. We have good schemes, we have talented players, we just need some fine tuning.
If we have 2 turnovers instead of 4, we win. Maybe even 3. Also, if a couple of Lewan's drive killing penatlies don't happen, we might be tied at the end as well.
We put together a good game, but had some big mistakes. Against a team that most thought we'd lose anyway.
This myth is quickly taking off. Let's squash it before it gets out of control. In the most important stat, Iowa outgained Michigan on a per play basis 6.4 to 6.1
You really think that if Iowa wasn't up 21 points they would have ran up the middle every down for 3 drives? Do you also think Iowa wouldn't have had more yards if we didn't give them amazing field position all day? I can't believe we're stooping to the point of taking moral victories. We lost.
We had more yards than Iowa after each of the four quarters. It wasn't a function of playing catch-up.
over 500 yards against a good defense.....
Exactly. And Hopkins is looking like a pretty decent option as well.
Is it just me, but I dont think our D was that bad, Yeah bad, but it's really special teams. They are not coached well or at all. You can't do anything about the D, but special teams. Come on. what's the reason there, too young.
Oh, f***ing great, a whole two weeks of this shit. Awesome.
I'm sure there is plenty of room on Michigan State's bandwagon, better hop on that one before it's too late.
my ears for a couple of weeks. I wonder what it is like, all that climbing on, jumping off, and wandering alone in the wilderness until another likely looking wagon rolls by. There seem to be friends. One can see them, one can read the blather. It looks like a haven. It is not, those people will leave you as fast as they leave the team.
After watching this game, how can you not be excited at the possibilities? Yes, there are problems. Yes, I'd like to see a better defense, and fewer mistakes. If nothing else, let us hope young Mr. Lewan learned something today. Personally, I would prefer to teach him how to channel his anger than to try to teach agression to someone who is passive. I know that in the worlds some people live in, all the high school players are perfect when they arrive. Somehow, I can't live that way, so I go through life dumb and happy.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Hey, I haven't given up just yet, but 4-15 is his Big Ten record. You really can't deny it's not working. And yes, they need to actually beat a good team here or there and that has yet to happen.
His Michigan career hangs in the balance against a weak Penn State team in two weeks, if they lose that game - he's done.
4-15 in the Big Ten with a horrible team in '08 and a team last year where it all depended on Tate and his shoulder was in pieces. Shut the fuck up and just support the team.
Hang in the balance and all that is overly dramatic, but 4-15 is what it is. At a certain point, the excuses for not winning will have to be replaced by wins. This poster probably has reached that point. Many like you haven't yet. That patience is admirable and I am in agreement with you.
Bottom line: you have no evidence he isn't supporting the team from his post..
"I know I will be negged to hell fr this but I don't care."
try that one more time. All I heard was DERRRRRRRRRRRRP.
To clarify: We lost by 10 to a highly ranked team. We had 520 yards of offense. We made some critical mistakes, but there's no POSSIBLE way you blame Rodriguez for this loss.
That would be a compelling argument if we were, say illinois or msu, and not the winningest program in college football history.
Who are you Brady Quinn? Now I'm done!!
I have been [a Trepps] supporter from the beginning and a strident critic of the old [commenter] mentality. But we are officially [an occasionally] garbage [board] with [occasionally] garbage [posters]. [His] ceiling is now [700-800 MGoPoints] and [Trepps] has had enough time to create better [content]. He clearly can't do better. It's time to move on I know [he will] be negged to hell fr this but I don't care. This is an embarrassment and the [Trepps] era needs to end now.
Try not to twist your ankle jumping off the bandwagon.
Our offense just moved the ball in the air and on the ground against one of the best defenses in the country. The loss hurts, especially with all the unforced errors, but we now know that our offense can move it and score on anyone in the B10.
Like w/o penalties and turnovers we're alright. I just kind of think that penalties and turnovers are reflective of the coach, so I don't really see that as a good defense to the OP in this thread. Yes, I know we're young, blah, blah, wait till next year or wait till 2012 (for newer excuses perhaps?). I'm just saying, we lost, stop making excuses. Their D forced us into some tough spots that we weren't prepared for.
Look, we all want RR to succeed. I think what everyone is overlooking here is how much blood, sweat, and tears was put into making M what we are today. The past 40 years of excellence have created the passion for M football that we all have. That is what is in danger here. Do you realize how hard it is to bring it back when it is lost? We are pretty close to that edge right now. Will Dave Brandon take notice when fewer than 100k are in the seats at some point?
You did the best job I have seen in stating a legitimate reason for impatience with what is going on under Rich.
I have questions about what the product will look like when we have experience and depth across board. It is very hard to say whether or not it will be successful enough to satisfy the fan base.
Your mass point hole would speak differently.
That is an impressive number of MGoPoints.
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Holy Neg.....Is that a record for one post?
Lots of ad hominem attacks deleted from this thread. Just FYI.
... we don't want you anyways
See you later.
Here's my unsolicited outside perspective (not a UM fan):
You have no reason to be jumping off a cliff.
MSU and Iowa are two very good teams and most Big Ten teams will lose to them or have already lost to them. Everyone was underrating MSU early on, and Iowa is as good as expected. No shame in losing to two top 15 teams, especially not the Iowa one, in which you fought back and made a game of it vs. one of the top defenses in the country.
Iowa was a game that almost everyone (including UM fans) expected Michigan to lose. MSU was probably considered a toss-up early in the season, but that's before everyone realized that MSU was legit (the double-digit win vs. Wisconsin sure looks nice).
So, at 5-2, UM is still doing as well as--or better than--expected and has only lost to two top 15 teams.
The true tests for this Michigan team are @PSU and vs. Illinois. One (PSU) is very talented but depleted and young. The other (Illinois) is underrated and has a very good defense. They're both winnable games, but not gimmies.