Ohio websites have coverage on Michigan

Submitted by StephenRKass on

There actually is coverage on Michigan's game last Saturday at two different Ohio State fan websites.

The Ozone has had a feature called "Michigan Monday" for years, and it continues.

LINK:  http://theozone.net/football/2013/MichiganMondays/WeekOne_CentralMichigan.html

In addition, "Eleven Warriors" has apparently now added a weekly piece called "Sun & Bluesday."

LINK:  http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2013/09/25429/michigan-football-sun-bluesday-fast-out-of-the-gate#more

Those of you who are addicts can go to the links. There just isn't a whole lot to add. A few observations from the Ozone.

  • The Ozone liked Heitzmann & Ojemudia (in addition to the observations many have made about the O Line, Gardner, etc.)
  • The Ozone also noted that the "Red Zone" defense for Michigan only gave up two field goals, which is a good thing.

Eleven Warriors isn't as heavy on analysis, but actually uses mgoblog's own Ace Anbender as as source of info. Johnny Ginter, their writer, is heavy on the snark, but can be entertaining. He writes, 

I have recruited Ace Anbender from the admittedly *deep sigh* excellent MGoBlog to help me parse through what happened this past weekend. Our conversations are real, but have been edited slightly for brevity/spelling/to make me look cool. 

  • Ginter is pretty crabby because Michigan beat CMU the way Ohio fans think they should have beat Buffalo.
  • He was struck that the defense was as good as it was, and the loss of Jake Ryan didn't cripple us.
  • Ginter also thought Gardner wasn't bad. However, he believes that Gardner's decision making will come back to bite Michigan when playing against a real opponent (read:  Ohio.) I have to agree I'd like to see Gardner improve there a bit.
  • Ginter wasn't that impressed by Toussaint or Smith, but thinks Green is the real deal.

As always, go to the links if you want more detail. Given the nature of a first game against CMU, there just really isn't that much to analyze. (Well, unless you're doing things like UFR's.)

RioThaN

September 3rd, 2013 at 4:37 PM ^

I like the one from the O-zone, they try to keep it objective, the one from 11W though.... Just too snarky, it's like if they were afraid of saying anything good about Michigan and thus make their readership angry.

RioThaN

September 3rd, 2013 at 5:39 PM ^

I don't expect anything from their readers but, if they're going to ask Ace for help they should try to respect him a little and not make fun of the person they're interviewing... I would just decline to help them giving them perspective next time...

Farnn

September 3rd, 2013 at 4:42 PM ^

I was very dissapointed with the format of that article on 11W with Ace.  Ace does them a favor answering some questions and the 11W writer then goes and adds snarky footnotes that Ace has no chance to respond too.  Usually interviews are posted with maybe a bit of editing and any criticism by the interviewer is usually in the format of a follow up question during the interview.  Looks extremely unprofessional.

Brown Bear

September 3rd, 2013 at 4:52 PM ^

A large part of their staff seem unprofessional. I go over to read their articles from time to time and I'm amazed when I read fat jokes about Brady Hoke. Commenters I understand but their writers really try too hard to keep their base happy and often look like children with their jokes that aren't even funny unless your 12.

LSAClassOf2000

September 3rd, 2013 at 5:09 PM ^

"Central Michigan threw the ball 28 times, completing 13 passes for 144 yards. Raymon Taylor and Blake Countess got the starts at corner, and CMU went after Countess early. They stopped shortly thereafter."

The Ozone article is - as it typically is - a pretty good read. I had to chuckle at the above passage actually. We did get a glimpse into how nice it is to have Blake Countess back there again. 

Lac55

September 3rd, 2013 at 5:09 PM ^

and I'm always surprised at how many Michigan threads and coverage that they give us. You would think with how they've fared in the rivalry the last decade, that they really wouldn't be to worried about us like that, but they seem obsessed almost. The other day I saw a thread about a post from a Michigan fan on Scouts free board. I have a Scout membership and I don't even go to the free board. They're very insecure over there and its kind of sad.

kehnonymous

September 3rd, 2013 at 5:11 PM ^

One of 11W's more problematic aspects is the huge number of staff writers they have.  While there are some very good articles, their huge roster more often than not means that there's a wildly disparate variance in content quality with a lot of it quite frankly just trying too hard to be funny.  The fact that their moderators have been known to join with the commenter hoi polloi in using the very original and funny 'scUM' honorific speaks volumes, in my opinion.

Real Tackles Wear 77

September 3rd, 2013 at 5:12 PM ^

If you understand it for what it is (a site full of homers that panders to the lowest common denominator 95% of the time), 11W isn't too bad. Ramzy writes some quality pieces time to time that take on the same storytelling tone of some of Brian's better pieces. Generally, day-to-day, it is mostly UM-bashing and discounting their own weaknesses. 

Ace

September 3rd, 2013 at 5:15 PM ^

This was the first run of a series of posts that are supposed to be full of snark—Johnny and I spent about 15 minutes going back-and-forth via chat, he had the opportunity to edit afterwards, and that made it seem a little imbalanced, I guess. I didn't mind him adding his thoughts—he makes a fair point about Gardner—especially considering that this is intended for the 11W audience much more than ours (I don't think anything I said wasn't covered either in the podcast, game recap, or Brian's game column). Johnny's already in touch with me about tweaking the format—I'll have a chance to add some responses the next time around.

I know it's a bitter rivalry and all, but I really like that both sides of it have prominent, independent blogs that do good work (yes, some of the 11W guys get very homery, but so do we, and stuff like Ross Fulton's posts have a level of insight that you just don't find elsewhere, and you all should be familiar with Ramzy's prose by now). I've enjoyed my interactions with Johnny and think it's a very good thing that we're doing some collaboration; hopefully, you'll keep reading them, and I think the posts will only get better from here. This was a first run and we're clearly working out the kinks.

StephenRKass

September 3rd, 2013 at 5:33 PM ^

Probably mgoblog doesn't have the staff or time to cover Ohio regularly. However, from my perspective, it would be a welcome addition (to hear more about their games, their strengths, weaknesses, challenges, etc.) Is that part of what you see happening with this dialogue, Ace?

markusr2007

September 3rd, 2013 at 5:17 PM ^

11W will find some way to deprecate it.  It's normal. Then they'll glorify Braxton Miller and an Ohio win over a San Diego State team that just got their asses handed to them by Eastern Illinois by 21 points at home.  Yes, it makes for lousy entertainment, but there's always "The Game" in November, and perhaps likely again in December, which is Michigan's opportunity to set the world to rights.

 

 

 

 

Ty Butterfield

September 3rd, 2013 at 7:44 PM ^

I agree about Gardner's decision making. The game against ND will be a huge test for Gardner. One bad int could cost Michigan the game.

Picktown GoBlue

September 3rd, 2013 at 8:55 PM ^

Cbus' 97.1 TheFan Common Man and Company show announced a new weekly NFL feature on Thursday afternoons with Amani Toomer supposedly to irk Michigan fans. Have Brian and Amani made up yet?

NoMoPincherBug

September 4th, 2013 at 12:00 AM ^

Ohio dude said "I thought Thomas Rawls (3-12) looked quicker and slimmer than he did a year ago. I was surprised by his burst."

I have to agree with him.  Rawls new found Burst was one of the more impressive surprise peformances of the game...right after Graham Glasgow.  Hope he keeps it up...

NoMoPincherBug

September 4th, 2013 at 12:07 AM ^

The Eleven Warriors guy is a complete idiot when it comes to football.  I have no idea what Michigan / CMU game he watched.... and perhaps he does not either.  Complete buffoonery and I wont be visiting that blog any more.

LSA91

September 4th, 2013 at 9:37 AM ^

Ginter is pretty funny.  

If you have some time to kill, I recommend going back through his posts and looking for his Big 10 state comparisons (state bird, state rock, etc), which were a pretty funny way to kill time over the summer, and his article comparing Brady Hoke and Charlie Weis.

evenyoubrutus

September 4th, 2013 at 12:19 PM ^

It almost seems like Ginter just looked at the box score and made a bunch of assumptions from that. He says that Ace was being a Homer because he liked Gardner's performance after the interception. Gardner started 1-4 with 1 int and finished 9-11 for ~140 yards with 3 total TDs and 1 int. I would say that's a pretty darn good performance after whatever the first drive was.

DenverBuckeye

September 4th, 2013 at 2:36 PM ^

That post is just Johnny. His post is more intended for laughs than heavy analysis and he accomplished that. Honestly, I thought he handled the, "I hate you, but am jealous of your game 1 performance, so I'm going to snark this" angle very well.

At the end of the day, knowledgeable OSU fans know that Michigan showed very well despite the holes UM has (Gardner's occasional bad decisions, new OL interior, missing Ryan, etc.). And we know UM will only gel and improve as the season goes on.