Ohio State and FSU offer an 8th grader -- class of 2019
Found this while looking through some recruit pages on 247.
His name is Peter Hayes-Patrick and he's an 8th grader. Class of 2019. This is getting INSANE. What is wrong with these people?
http://247sports.com/Player/Peter-Hayes-Patrick-76208
LSU has a commitment from a QB called Zadock Dinkelman who is a class of 2018. Currently a high school freshman.
February 5th, 2015 at 12:16 AM ^
February 5th, 2015 at 12:19 AM ^
Yeah that's just sad.
February 5th, 2015 at 12:25 AM ^
Recruiting: Still that creepy.
February 5th, 2015 at 12:27 AM ^
of actually honoring them - aka that QB from Canteen's school that had been an USC offer/commit since he was a frosh. There was no way they were taking him even if Kiffin stayed. If he had panned out they would have had the inside track to land him.
I doubt M will operate that way unless there is a major shift overall in this direction and they are forced to keep up with the pack. I think we do occasionally offer a can't-miss kid (pretty sure we have made one 2017 offer already) but it won't be the norm for the foreseeable future.
Side note - does anyone remember the name of that QB and where he ended up?
February 5th, 2015 at 12:32 AM ^
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February 5th, 2015 at 12:36 AM ^
In ten years Urban Meyer will cut him and he'll be playing at Ohio Dominican.
February 5th, 2015 at 12:36 AM ^
If you had asked me to name the two schools to offer a 8th grade student who has yet to play a down of high school football, there's a very good chance I would have said OSU and FSU.
Now that's sad!
February 5th, 2015 at 12:37 PM ^
You also might have said: Ole Miss, LSU, Alabama or a bunch of others.
That's even more sad.
February 5th, 2015 at 12:39 AM ^
I'm assuming he's Jacques Patrick little brother.
February 5th, 2015 at 12:43 AM ^
Yes, it is crazy, but Michigan hockey recently got a committment from 2018 Quinn Hughes.
http://www.chatsports.com/michigan-wolverines/a/Quinn-Hughes-Commits-To…
not sure why it should be considered more acceptable in a different sport.
February 5th, 2015 at 1:03 AM ^
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February 5th, 2015 at 10:05 AM ^
The criticism of recruiting 15 year olds has nothing to do with whether they are physically mature or are legitimate prospects. It is because they are barely teenagers and are 4 years or more away from college. They should be left alone--irrespective of the sport. The football isn't hockey canard is simple a distinction without a difference.
I appreciate the chatsports chastizing, but I simple grabbed the first Google link--and we are talking about a fact (he is a 2018 recruit) and not an opinion.
February 5th, 2015 at 11:26 AM ^
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February 5th, 2015 at 1:03 AM ^
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/florida-recruiting/blog/os-eighth…
From his older brother:
“He’s blessed at a young age. He’s in eighth grade so I don’t even talk to him about recruiting. He’s not even in high school yet, so he doesn’t even have to worry about that for another year or two,” said Jacques Patrick, who is ranked as the No. 2 running back in the country according to the 247Sports.com composite rankings.
Oh yeah... Jacques Patrick. Remember him?
February 5th, 2015 at 1:09 AM ^
February 5th, 2015 at 1:15 AM ^
Is it too much to expect the NCAA to exercise some good judgement and set some parameters here?
Redundant question.
February 5th, 2015 at 2:56 AM ^
NCAA has chosen not to try to prohibit unofficial and non binding offers before that.
February 5th, 2015 at 12:11 PM ^
I'm not sure how they could do so even if they wanted to. If a coach tells a 15-year-old, "If you keep up the good work, you could be wearing our colors some day," is that an unofficial offer?
February 5th, 2015 at 6:18 AM ^
Didn't USC do this some years back? What ever happened to that recruit?
February 5th, 2015 at 6:32 AM ^
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February 5th, 2015 at 7:27 AM ^
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February 5th, 2015 at 9:23 AM ^
says Patrick Beverly.
February 5th, 2015 at 6:35 AM ^
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February 5th, 2015 at 6:49 AM ^
Here's the NCAA definition of prospective student-athlete, which might help in this discussion:
13.02.12 Prospective Student-Athlete.
A prospective student-athlete is a student who has started classes for the ninth grade. In addition, a student who has not started classes for the ninth grade becomes a prospective student-athlete if the institution provides such an individual (or the individual’s relatives or friends) any financial assistance or other benefits that the institution does not provide to prospective students generally.
February 5th, 2015 at 8:36 AM ^
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February 5th, 2015 at 7:19 AM ^
Looking at the link the offers were from 8/21/14 ... so the summer after his 7th grade season and they offerend (timeline updated) on the same day. what?!?!?!
February 5th, 2015 at 8:04 AM ^
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February 5th, 2015 at 8:10 AM ^
The more insane part to look at is not the grade but that the kid is 12 or 13. Born in 2001 or 2002 most likely.
I can understand a gifted child showing genious level mental abilities to attract colleges at such a young age, but clearly this kids physical abilities aren't that great but they probably see potentional? I don't know where they see it, but I'm also sure this kid showed interest in them and so they agreed to send an offer out. I'm sure it has somethign to do with his ties with someone or something (some said his brother?).
I find it silly that a college is looking at kids at that age, but from the other end I bet the kid and his parents are more than thrilled.
February 5th, 2015 at 8:41 AM ^
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February 5th, 2015 at 8:43 AM ^
February 5th, 2015 at 8:57 AM ^
to FSU.
February 5th, 2015 at 9:10 AM ^
February 5th, 2015 at 9:45 AM ^
From the student and parent's perspective, this is pretty cool. He is getting a fantastic opportunity to start focusing on going to college and having a great head start at a successful life.
As far as ending the practice, if the rules were tweaked to allow kids to sign their letter of intent when they get their offer, a lot of the things we hate about recruiting would probably go away.
February 5th, 2015 at 11:21 AM ^
Plenty of other countries/sports have figured this out with pre-professional contracts, apprenticeships etc.
The main problem in the US is that there's no incentive for colleges or the NCAA to actually offer terms that are advantageous to the kids and their families.
February 5th, 2015 at 12:03 PM ^
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