I'm going to go ahead and call BS on this.
Peppers at 10, which seems low.
I'm going to go ahead and call BS on this.
Is he getting Brady and Jon confused?
I think it's Peppers. He says it did not originate with negative recruiting rather his own research. I'm obviously skeptical that anyone's own research would lead them to conclude that Hoke has an NFL future. I think he simply knows better than to look a gift horse in the mouth. The coach who told him this lie offered him a scholarship and for that reason he'll keep his name out of the press.
Sounds like negative recruiting.
Isn't chasports.com Ace Williams? I refuse to click the link and see.
This is through rivals I think. But I linked an actual article you could read.
My point is that Ace Williams trolls for clicks, so linking to him or clicking on those links just feeds the troll. I refused to feed the troll any more than you already had.
Sorry I didn't know I usually just look at 247 insider stuff. I changed it for all of you.
Damn you, Urban Meyer speading lies again.
Definitely bs. I Love Brady but I think the nfl would eat him alive.
You really think that? I suppose the point is moot. His heart stays in Ann Arbor no matter where he travels.
His brother Jon seems to be thriving in the NFL. Don't know why you think Brady would get eaten alive.
Is a defensive backs coach. When people say that a coach is going to make the jump to the pros from a major school it is implied that they will be going to be head coaching at the next level. There is a huge difference between being an NFL head coach and defensive backs coach.
Im not knocking brady, just that hes the ultimate players coach and those money hungry players would walk all over him. They're playing for themselves and not a higher institution or franchise.
Good point. Mattison had success in the NFL, but along the same lines wasn't fulfilled by professional coaching, as he was recruiting/moulding college talent
Chatsports? Isn't that Ace William's site?
Unless we're all being duped by Hoke...I'm chalking this one up to negative recruiting.
I think it'd just be a shame if info came out that URBAN MEYER allegedly KILLED 5 HOOKERS WITH CRAIG JAMES.
With Carr it was Alzheimer's, with Hoke it's the NFL. Other schools love making crap up about our coach.
Not Alzeimer's or MS, but Parkinson's.
You're right. By bad.
I thought it was Parkinson's.
you aren't fooling me RDT..errr Section 1
If he actually heard this, there's probably only one person it would come from, and I think you know who that is.
....from a college buddy whose brother-in-law heard from a recently fired MAC assistant coach that Urban Meyer was awash in NFL offers. And I believe it! Because I'm an credulous guy!
Now...let's everyone go out and spread this quite reliable word.
i heard the same exact thing and i live all the way out in Hawaii!
must be true: urban meyer to go pro this coming season. it's a fact.
Um, he's sick. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Urban pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.
Thank you, Simone.
Chatsports. This is just negative recruiting at play.
Don't read that website!!! And don't post links to it, either. Any publicity just encourages BS like what gets posted there.
Per above it is a rivals article.
Is your "in-state preview of 2014 recruiting" the long post you were working on?
Yes, it was.
This is one large poop sandwich of a thread.
Is it time to raise the point limit on starting threads yet?
This is from Rivals. Peppers came out and claimed that no one is negative recruiting but it's pretty much bullshit because Urban has a track record of pulling shit like this with recruits. Unfortunately, it seems to have worked with Jabril.
Urban is more likely to retire twice from "health" problems in the next 5 years than Hoke taking an NFL job.
I heard that Urban Meyer once quit his football team because he had heart problems and then went back to coaching a year later.
Yes but it has been documented that Hoke is not very satisfied with landing the Michigan job. He said he would have crawled to Ann Arbor for the job. I only feel comfortable with a coach who would have done the crabwalk backwards all the way.
Is this be one of the recruiting tips that Meyer gives to lowly Big Ten coaches . . . make bad shit up about the other coaches?
I heard that Meyer is going to go to prison for sexual harrassment.
Hey, that's pretty easy. I think Jerry Kill should try that.
Negative recruiting is one thing when you point out something actually negative about something (i.e. "Hey recruit X, did you know Lane Kiffin is a huge douchebag?"). But I don't understand what there is to gain by outright lying. Can't Hoke just tell Peppers that this is all BS, and then the guy spreading lies will have his credibility shot and look like a major asshole? The only way this works is if somehow Hoke has zero contact with Peppers between now and signing day...
This is what got Lawrence Marshall to commit to OSU—Urban told him that Brady was going to become HC of the Lions.
If Jabrill Peppers actually believed the Hoke-maybe-to-NFL rumors, he's not an overly bright young man. Out of all the coaches at the D1 level in college ball, Brady Hoke is among the least likely to go to the NFL at this point in his career.
Did I miss something? Was that actually reported (about Lawrence Marshall)?
but it's easy to speculate—Marshall was a bit of a surprise commit to OSU, and if we're now hearing that OSU might be the source of the Hoke-to-NFL baloney, nothing would surprise me.
This doesn't help Meyer at all IMHO, if it's true that his staff is the source. All he's doing is putting an extra-large bullseye on his back for the other conference coaches.
I just wonder if this compulsive lying ever comes back to bite him in other ways. Didn't he have a lot of players transferring out towards the end of his time at Florida?
that it's bitten his ass in his personal life. But that's neither here nor there, and if this were any other thread I wouldn't mention it.
What do you mean? He would never lie to his family. He would never tell his kids that he's done with coaching when in reality he was about to take a job with the most toothless university on the planet.
But I wouldn't call OSU toothless. Spineless, sure. Gutless? Yep. Shameless, for sure. Not sure about toothless though.
I actually think that lack of teeth is a very accurate description of several/many/most Ohio fans.
Hoke will spend 5 years at Michigan, win a couple NCs (yes, that means 2 out of the next 3), and go to the NFL. Jim Harbaugh, who is bored after 2 straight Super Bowl championships, returns to Michigan.
5 years later, both win it all two more times at their new jobs, get bored and swap jobs.
Hit repeat a few times, until Mike Hart/Tyrone Wheatly/Kovacs/Denard/etc. is ready to assume the head coach job at Michigan.
Just glad this BS didn't come out a few weeks ago...
Ohio hooey. And that's the foulest, smelliest kind.
I knew it!! It's because he can't close on big time recruits.
Now the title is even worse!
I saw this in the ESPN Rumors section on their website but didn't believe it...Now that I see the facts, I believe it less.
Don't click anything from ChatSpots. Pure Garbage.
This is ridiculous, but the coaching staff shouldn't have too much trouble explaining things to Peppers or anyone else. Hopefully this will blow up in the face of the person(s) who spread the rumor.
Also, why does this seem to be coming from OSU? Any reason other than general dislike of them?
His own research it would of come up, Hoke wants to Michigan from California for dream job! Without knowing his salary, before accepting job! This is some whacked as bs!!
Walks to Michigan, dang phone!
Peppers should watch this video of Hoke talking about Michigan:
Scratch that. Apparently the updated link includes some info about the sources of the rumors. Instead of my sarcastic jab at the OP, here's a GIF of a baby pygmy goat playing:
Peppers isn't the only recruit who was told this lie.
"More than one recruit has mentioned to Hoke that OSU coaches are the source of the rumor and Brady has emphatically told the players that he will be at Michigan for as long as they will have him, hopefully for 20+ years. The guy is living his dream job and is as genuine as they come.”
Who is the reporter?
I copied and pasted that quote into google.
It is from chatsports.
And they also say this in the same report:
A few months back, we were told off the record that Michigan coaches had been telling recruits that they would be in Ann Arbor for years after Meyer in Columbus and to only expect the 2X National Championship winning coach to only be the head man at OSU for 3 more seasons until he gets bored.
This all sounds like a bunch of crap.
how this fits into Urban's recruiting tips for the other Big Ten coaches.
Is that you again? Are you back from the London tabloid trying to spread rumors again?
to double-point. Hoke ain't going anywhere he can't double-point.
I'm ready to bring back Rich Rod anyway.
/s (obligatory, you guys know how the Internet can be sometimes)
After Friday all the B1G coaches will have Urban's full tutorial on how to improve B1G recruiting by emulating OSU.
Wait until you see #3: Tell recruits that Hoke requires players to attend class regularly.
Hoke going to the NFL is laughable. He is a college coach if I've ever seen one. I think he loves being in that teacher role, something he'd lose in going to the NFL.
I find this hard to believe that OSU coaches are spreading these rumors. For whatever reason, I can't see Meyer stooping this low. But hey, I've been wrong before.
Besides, why would OSU fans want Hoke gone? Wouldn't they want him to stick around so their "SEC defense" can dominate us thoroughly for a thousand generations as they're supposedly believing?
I'm not at all ready to pin this on him. Peppers may not have even said that. However, the Florida coaching staff (when Meyer was still there) pretty obviously lied to Daryl Stonum to try to get him to be a Gator. So I'm not sure how low Meyer would go.
Um, unless you caught him first hand with the coed, I'd stay away from saying rumor as fact. Makes you look like a low life asshole.
Are you comparing the baying of a -18 year old to your self? If so, at he didn't insinuate a married man cheated on his wife. Stay classy (love the pict, btw).
Or it makes you look like the asshole that is telling recruits that Hoke is going to the NFL.
Major Applewhite to Ohio?
I don't find it hard at all. This is the culture down in Columbus.
I believe Hoke said " coaches don't leave Michigan to go to the NFL, coaches leave the NFL to go to Michigan."
...I have to say this post made me laugh. Pretty sure if Peppers is buying this BS, he may not be Michigan material.
In other breaking news...Beilein not getting basketball recruits because of multiple NBA head coaching job offers.
For Hoke to say Urban is a broken man and he will likely just quit one day to the top recruits but Coach Hoke would never do that. But Urban would manufacture lies just to get a recruiting edge. Hopefully, the recruits will see past this BS!
Urban is such a great person.
While this is a wonderful pictures, this is at least the second time you've posted it in the last hour...
I <3 sarcasm.
than post this same picture over and over again in every thread. Some kind of actual contribution besides posting this girl over and over again is needed going forward.
urban is a piece of shit.
Hey moron, not ONE coach in Michigan's history left the program to coach another school or in the NFL. NOT ONE.
He left to become Wisconsin's head coach, as well as their AD.
Can't imagine he would be any happier in the league..
The man lives and loves UM football. Have to believe he will stay as long as he is welcome.
I really doubt Meyer would suggest something like that.
Is this why Florida was having Rodriguez level attrition by the time Meyer was leaving? Because all these guys start to realize how much their coach lies to them?
Brady Hoke is assembling an NFL team at the University of Michigan
Why should Hoke go to the NFL? The NFL is coming to him.
It shouldn't be that hard to convince a recruit that he's staying at Michigan, where they can get NFL-level coaching.
Yeah. Hoke isn't leaving unless the AD makes him leave. This is his last stop on the coaching road.
Welcome to my world.
The difference being that Brian Kelly actually did have an interview with an NFL team, no?
If other schools are going to use that to try and negative recruit ND, it's a dick move, but it's still Kelly kind of screwing himself to a certain extent.
Brady Hoke to the NFL is a completely baseless fabrication.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if he was getting attention from NFL teams. The guy can coach. Michigan was a mess when he took over in 2011.
So what? Every guy that gets a wink does not cheat.
It's on the Internet so it's obviously true.
Is the one who is going to get temptations in the next couple of years, with some success at osu you can bet that teams with openings probably happening in the near future will be calling him....I can think of USC, Texas, maybe LSU as soon as they get tired of Les screwing something up every year. Also if chip Kelly has success, you can bet some NFL team will talk to urban, I say no more than 5 years and he is a goner.
Doubtful. Texas and USC are lateral moves from OSU and LSU is a step down. Maybe he goes to the NFL, but I would think if he had interest in that he could have written his ticket after he won his 2nd NC.
Fact is, he's from Ohio and is an OSU grad. Chances of him leaving in the next 5 years are pretty slim. Outside of Michigan, nobody is even close to OSU in talent which means he'll win at least 10 games every year.
Might be on par as a program to those schools but Austin and LA are a helluva lot better than Columbus. When urban finds out he can't do some of the sleaze-ball things consistently in the B1G as he could in the SEC, he will head that direction again or a school like I mentioned. He will be at Ohio for no more than 5-6 years. I just don't see him sticking around...the NFL will be more realistic now than after his 2nd title due to the NFL risking it with chip Kelly, if he is successful, an NFL team will look for the next "chip Kelly" type. Plus, urbs didn't graduate from Ohio, he was an assistant years back...
May be a step down, although if it is, not by much, it is SEC and can reel in the same, probably more talent than Ohio, granted, I still look at Texas and USC being gigs urban would look into, USC is nowhere near a lateral move compared to Ohio. USC is probably one of the best jobs in America...
At least ten wins. That weak schedule ohio has this upcoming season is laughable. Other than Michigan, the only team showing any upside is northwestern at their place. Unfortunately, unless they trip up against Wisky or Purdue its easy sailing until the final game.
Graduated from Cincinnati not OSU.
Graduate assistant at osu
Keep_em_honest - while I agree with much of your post, Urban did not graduate from OSU. He graduated and played at Cinci. He was a grad assistant at OSU under Bruce Earl.
Urban has a master's degree in something from OSU. He did his undergrad at UC.
So just to clarify - there isn't any evidence that Meyer said anything about this, right?
enough? Its OHIO fergodsake!
Hoke will easily squash this rumor.
I'd be much more than a little surprised if Hoke left for the NFL. Virtually every action Hoke has taken and every word he has spoken drips with his love of Michigan and the position he is in as the head coach of it.
Hoke bolting to the NFL would actually be more shocking to me than Meyer calling a press conference at which he pulls off a mask and reveals he is actually a green faced Martian whose love of the game of football drove him to fly to Earth and impersonate a human so that Meyer could fulfill his wish of being a collegiate coach.
Hoke will take a NFL job in California (looking at you Raiders) and then quit immediately, Brandon will re-hire on the spot and the Hoke will actually walk all the way to Ann Arbor just to said, "I told you we would walk to Michigan."
Urban has long been thought to be a possible NFL departure. (see link below)
Urban has a long history of leaving when the going gets tough--as well as lying about his intentions (ex: telling recuits he would not leave Fla, then leaving, then coming back and telling recruits he would stay, then leaving again).
Urban may feel motivated to leave because he took the Ohio job without knowing the extent of Ohio's NCAA penalties. Did Ohio falsely reassure him that there would be no bowl ban or schoarship restrictions?
And what if Ohio's NCAA violations resurface?. Many believe that Ohio's problems did not suddenly vanish overnight with Tressel's departure If half a dozen players were found to be taking illegal money in the last few years, how many others were also? Does anyone seriously believe that none of Tressel's former players are still on the take?
Clearly, Urban is a much higher flight risk and for many reasons.
The UM coaching situation--with mutiple career-long commitments--is as stable as it can get.
I think I remember reading that OSU gave Meyer an out in his contract if previous violations resurfaced. Obviously, OSU is not going to do that unless they feel confident there is not another shoe to drop. Add to that the fact the NCAA and every major sports outlet went through their program with a fine tooth comb and couldn't find anything other than some tats and pocket change from charity events.
So apparently someone told him that we have a coach that is good enough to leave for the NFL. But is not, because he loves Michigan. I'll take that.
If Hoke has interviewed for a job or if teams have offered or even talked about offering, ESPN would be all over it. There is no way this loser would be breaking the story first...
Meyer said it just look at how he stole all those psu recruits and snitch on Cam Newton
but it is scary that a recruit would actually believe this...Ohio must be doing a full court press! There is probably not one other coach in the major D-1 is LESS of a flight risk than Hoke. Time to start the Urban to the Hospital or Urban to the NFL meme.
He's blue for life.
It's a picture of boobies! Ever open a fifteen-post thread at work and get two different 800x600 pictures of impossibly fake boobs alternating for pages and pages? And then have your boss walk up behind you? Thanks, internet hero, for turning my idle surfing of a sports site into a firing offense! No one needs to see the same set of fake gazongas eighty times accompanied by your three words of deep insight into the team of your choice. EXAMPLE Go to Rivals and click on a thread. DIAGNOSIS Person is fourteen and has a constant boner. Likely to turn into a guy who says "stud" constantly after being rejected by women for the next ten to eighty years. CURE An introduction to life's harsh realities, hopefully beginning with a slap upside the head.
Urban must be shaking in his boots about Peppers coming Herr of he would go to such lengths.. When peppers visits he will see coach Hoke isn't going anywhere, this is his dream job. Urban really is a fucking serpent.
Hoke is more Pure Michigan than those T.V. ads. This is total hokum in my opinion. Brady Hoke is as entrenched as any coach in the Top 25. Would anyone be surprised if Saban or Meyer, or Brian Kelly jumped to another school or the NFL? Nope. Is Hoke gonna walk to New Jersey to coach Mark Sanchez, or to Oakland to coach that tire fire? Don't think so.
Do I answer my own questions when I get angry? Yes.
"Mind on drugs" PSA campaign
Chatsports got it all wrong. I heard from a good source in Ohio that Hoke's in line to succeed the Pope...
Are you saying the kid is outright lying? That doesn't really seem like a smart way to go about telling people you don't like a school.
Maybe this is wishful thinking but I think Hoke will end his career at Michigan. This is his dream job and he is very passionate about Michigan. Just because there are offers on the table doesn't mean he's going to go. I'm sure they will talk about it and clear it all up.
The story is obviously a lie and I'd be surprised if i wasn't Meyer spreading it. That being said, somebody has got to get a handle on these twitter idiots who are tweeting these kids. I just took a look at Peppers' timeline (I don't tweet, I just follow people and somebody I follow mentioned him so I wanted to check it out) and it's clear that the kid is having a rough go of it with Michigan fans right now. I'm not saying that's the reason he wouldn't choose Michigan, but it certainly can't help.
whos to say those are not buckeye fans impersonating Michigan fans
Ironic, considering the ego-monster that is Urban Meyer is FAR more likely to bolt for the NFL (after a 9 day retirement to preserve his health and family life, of course.)
Urban will bail on O$U for the NFL. The clock is ticking.
Ohio has won 7* or the last 9 meetings with Michigan, just signed the #2 recruiting class in the country and is preseason ranked #4 in the country for the coming season and Meyer feels he has to resort to bullshit like this to compete? Unbelievable.
* 2010 vacated