Ohio RB LJ Scott to MSU

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stae landed 4 star RB LJ Scott. He had an OSU and Bama offer. I wonder how hard they were recruiting him and why no interest from UM. I think this makes it more likely we can land Mike Weber. Ohio and Michigan will be fighting over Weber and Harris. I like the idea of getting the in state kid but Harris is a stud. It should make their BBQ visits interesting. I worked hard on the title. http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2014/07/four-star_ohio_rb_lj_sc…

Wolverine Devotee

July 10th, 2014 at 11:41 PM ^

Sam Webb tweeted some article on Scout ($) that said something like "Weber and Harris a package deal?"

Don't know, didn't read it since it was paywalled and I dropped my Scout sub. But if that's true......I don't like Michigan's chances. 

Don

July 11th, 2014 at 7:01 AM ^

I think Sam is engaging in a little speculation... I can't see Weber and Harris ending up at the same school. These package deals rarely happen, especially for kids playing the same position.

It'll be Weber to UM and Harris to OSU. Based on the bits of videos I've seen of both RBs, Weber is a tough little guy but Harris is on another level.

Anybody know why we didn't offer Scott?

A Fan In Fargo

July 11th, 2014 at 7:03 PM ^

You have many good comments but I'm not so sure Harris is on another level as Weber. I think Weber has him in lateral-jukes, quicks and toughness. Harris has him in top end speed no doubt and vertical. Big deal. Nuss, Malzone and I want Weber for good reason.

BlueKoj

July 11th, 2014 at 8:33 AM ^

It was not Sam. It was Josh, and it wasn't speculation as much as a bad title. Josh asked the question about playing at the same school. Weber said they hadn't talked about it, but it'd be a good 1-2 punch for the school if they both went. 

Very much nothing to see here.

BlueKoj

July 11th, 2014 at 8:35 AM ^

I'd certainly take the first to commit, but needs and commits at other positions would make it hard to take two more RBs unless there's more attrition. I would want both if there was room.

Double-D

July 10th, 2014 at 11:55 PM ^

I would think you would want a good RB in every class. 2-3 will be getting playing time and you always need to be prepared for injury and early entree. If you can get a good one you take it You never know when may miss on a kid's potential and have to be scrambling the following year like we saw with what RR did to us at the QB position. I like what this staff has done addressing position depth.

alum96

July 11th, 2014 at 1:47 AM ^

Most likely scenario now is this pushes Weber to UM.  Harris we are still in the running for but the tea leaves seem to read OSU.

Scott is a very nice pickup for MSU  - that's the 4th ranked RB in the nation.  Yhey have generally not recruited top end guys on their offense outside of a few like Burbridge and that TE who went pro a few years ago too early but those were Michigan kids.  They are starting to make some serious inroads in PA and this would be one big get out of OH.  Urbz can't be too happy about it but I am sure this will increase his focus even more on Harris.

Interesting, some of the Buckeye fans think they are going to get both Harris and Weber.  I thought Weber was more of a MSU v UM thing.

SpartyinCA

July 11th, 2014 at 2:43 AM ^

I think it is more of an MSU-UM thing, although it sounds like Weber has been leaning a lot more UM's way lately. At least that's what the people who follow the Twitter machine closely have been saying.

No idea how much truth there is to this, but there have been lots of rumors flying around about how Harris wants to be the only RB in his class at whatever school he picks. So that would certainly go against them thinking they'll land both. Should be interesting to see what those two end up doing.

redhousewolverine

July 11th, 2014 at 9:19 AM ^

I wouldn't say that's the most likely scenario. MSU landing Scott probably does help Michigan, but I think Michigan continuing to develop a relationship with Weber is more important. I think the effect of a school landing another recruit at the same position is overstated, depending on what the depth chart looks like and depending on whether the recruit has specifically expressed a desire to be the only recruit in his class. If we end up landing Weber, this is probably only a minor reason it happens. If Weber is feeling MSU, I wouldn't put it past him to commit there even though MSU already landed Scott.

alum96

July 11th, 2014 at 11:13 AM ^

MSU has a boatload of young RB's - and now they added Scott.  If the depth chart means anything I would think UM has more of an opening if the relationship continues to "rebound".   While we do have Isaac who probably is a 98% chance of being a 2015 there is no 2014 RB.  MSU has 2 in 2014 by comparison.  That said Dantonio is infamous for taking offensive players and turning them into defensive ones if they are the best athletes so I am just going off their HS position.

There is also a second lower kid out of OH MSU is hot and heavy on who seems 90% sure to go to MSU but they are in the balancing act of waiting to see if Weber commits versus going after plan B who would almost surely.

redhousewolverine

July 11th, 2014 at 4:51 PM ^

Michigan's depth chart, when Weber would step on campus, will (most likely) read:

Junior: Green, Smith, Johnson

Sophomore: Isaac and Douglas

That's 5 RB's with no seniors. Granted, Michigan will probably only be taking one RB in this class whereas MSU seems to be taking two and MSU has several other RB's on it's roster too, so the numbers look relatively even. I would just hesitate to say that this development is what puts us over the top in winning the recruiting battle for Weber. It will most certainly help and might help lessen MSU's focus on Weber, but how Michigan continues to rebuild its relationship with Weber will be more important.

spartanfan123

July 11th, 2014 at 6:23 PM ^

Just for reference, MSU will have 3-5 RBs on the roster in 2015, not including Scott/whoever else commits. 

Graduating - Hill, Langford

SR - None

JR - Tompkins, Williams (Could get moved to LB/Safety)

SO - Holmes

RS Frosh - Owens (Could get moved to FB or DE), London. 

 

That looks pretty thin to me, especially considering Tompkins has made little noise so far in his career, and Williams and Owens are very likely to get moved to defense. Although, players buried in the defensive depth chart get moved to offense and vice versa every year (Langford was a CB for 2 years). 

alum96

July 11th, 2014 at 9:01 PM ^

You left out the small matter of Larry Scott the #4 RB in the country in his same class.

As for Ross Douglas for UM - until I see him in any role that is above #3 in the rotation I don't think any recruit is worried about a converted defensive player.  No offense to Ross Douglas of course.

Again at MSU half those guys could be defensive backs or LBs by the time it is said and done - I have no idea.

I am of the belief the OL is 70% of the battle, and the RB does the rest so I am relatively indifferent.  Frankly I'd rather get an elite (any other position) than a 2nd RB in this class.  [I consider Isaac to be a 2015 recruit]  If there is no elite player interested at us, then going after 1 of these makes sense.

p.s. I am not saying anything puts us over the top.  All things being equal seeing the #4 RB go into one of the schools you are interested in and the other school recruiting the #1 RB furiously helps us if Weber is who everyone wants.

Danwillhor

July 11th, 2014 at 3:49 AM ^

as for Harris, if a betting man I'd bet every dollar on osu at this point. I think it'd take a great season (etc, what we've been saying forever) to even get back in it. He seems to have taken to the urban neg stuff and it sounds insane no matter how much I hear it but dumping Borges really hurt us with him. I'd call it a fair trade if so.

BRBLUE

July 11th, 2014 at 6:08 AM ^

Having Ty Isaac in the fold, getting Harris or Weber would just be icing on the cake. IMO the coaches should focus more on the 16' class of RB right now. 

BlueCube

July 11th, 2014 at 6:10 AM ^

I saw this last night and added it to Ace's recruiting story with the question of What does it mean?. My guess is that Meyer may have backed off on recruiting because he thinks he is getting Harris. I see Harris to OSU and Weber to Michigan unless a miracle happens at the barbecue or due to a good season.

BlueCube

July 11th, 2014 at 7:26 AM ^

predicitions for Weber have goe to Michigan. Those five predicitions were all made yesterday and include two from Ohio State writers. The fifth was a national recruiter predicting Ohio State. I like the trend and that two OSU writers are saying Michigan.

MAZandBLUE

July 11th, 2014 at 7:48 AM ^

I'll just leave this right here:

LJ Scott #⃣3⃣ @LJ_Scott3
MSU committ!!! Happy with my decision really don't care what ppl think this about me!! Time to grind!

BlueKoj

July 11th, 2014 at 8:56 AM ^

The not going to OH is surely the primary thing, but I think he'll get flack for it being MSU and not UM. As much as they hate it when their guys go to "tsun" most understand and respect it. I think a top kid going to MSU must feel like, "WTF?" to many. 

 

MAZandBLUE

July 11th, 2014 at 11:30 AM ^

I just thought it was telling of the crap that he has either already taken for choosing State or anticipates receiving. No doubt that some (most? all?) recruits receive a hard time regardless of which school they go to and where they come from, but I've never seen it in a commitment post like this before. Obviously this is a top of mind concern for this kid.