Ohio offers Conley
October 21st, 2012 at 10:03 PM ^
Meh. I think it's Oregon if they offer or us. But if they offer him the opportunity to play offense, that might help. He seems to be seriously considering persuing WR in college.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:16 PM ^
The ohio boards are saying that oregon already offered.. and they seem to think that he is 'in play'.. i have no idea if it's true or not...
October 21st, 2012 at 10:32 PM ^
Unless something changed in the last 24 hours, I don't believe Oregon has offered. And Ohio boards think everybody is in play, so I don't put much credance in that. But it is possible if given the chance to play offense.
October 21st, 2012 at 11:29 PM ^
"In play" like Kyle Kalis last year?
October 21st, 2012 at 10:03 PM ^
Who wouldn't want to join a defense that gives up 49 points to indiana?
October 21st, 2012 at 10:05 PM ^
I think Conley has actually been having a better season on offense this year and would not be surprised to see him play on that side of the ball in college.
October 22nd, 2012 at 5:48 AM ^
Most kids in HS play both ways, especially the ones good enough to get D1 offers. If you look at some of our defensive recruits you can make that same argument that they are having better years on the offensive side.
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:39 AM ^
October 21st, 2012 at 11:22 PM ^
early playing time
October 21st, 2012 at 10:04 PM ^
Probably gone. He has been a "soft" commit for some time now and I have not expected him to sign with UM. I have no idea whether he is a Buckeye fan or not, though.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:58 PM ^
And this insight is based on what, pretell? Seems like there is a contingent around here that cries "soft commit" whenever a kid gets an outside offer.
October 30th, 2012 at 9:24 PM ^
No, stating that you intend to take visits makes you a "soft commit."
October 21st, 2012 at 10:07 PM ^
October 21st, 2012 at 10:08 PM ^
If we miss on Treadwell, do we then look to switch Conley to Offense? Stribling seems to be lighting it up on D and we still have lewis at CB.
If Conley is dead set on O and we miss on treadwell this might not be a bad idea at all.
October 21st, 2012 at 11:14 PM ^
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:09 AM ^
Also, it could open up a spot for McQuay...so Conley to WR, LM3 as another DB.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:14 PM ^
Hope Conley tells meyer to back off like Kalis did.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:43 PM ^
I hope he burns his offer letter like LTT did.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:17 PM ^
Snake Oil
October 21st, 2012 at 10:25 PM ^
Should we freak out, because I was going to think that this is not a big deal and let the events that will unfold, unfold, but I can change my stance if that irrational.
sigh.... "/s"
October 21st, 2012 at 10:38 PM ^
He sounds super-athletic and it would really hurt if he flipped.
That being said, at this point I feel like Hoke and Mattison could turn a steaming pile of poop into a good defense, so yeah...
October 21st, 2012 at 10:41 PM ^
I doubt the staff wouldn't give him a chance at WR. It's also a position of need, and the staff was willing to move Brown to TE from DE last year when he requested it (obviously, things still went awry, but for other reasons). A lot of these problems, with Brown, Dawson, Conley, is just human nature. Everybody, to differing degrees, is curious about what they don't have.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:42 PM ^
I'm not to worried about the offer, especially since they waited so long.
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:30 AM ^
October 21st, 2012 at 10:52 PM ^
October 21st, 2012 at 10:53 PM ^
Also, I think it's worth bringing up, considering peoples surprise that the staff offered an unkown like Denzel Ward, how good this staff is at evaluating talent. Conley, like DeVeon Smith, Stribling, and so on, are all players who had no/no meaningful offers when Michigan came a'calling, then the problem is getting other programs to back off. When someone like Ward gets an offer, at this point I just shrug and accept that the staff know what they're doing.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:19 AM ^
Just because other schools eventually offer doesn't mean this staff knows what it's doing with offers like that. Stribling, Smith, Conley, etc. haven't proven anything at the next level. They might all be flops.
I do think this staff has done a good job of recruiting, but not because they offered Stribling, Smith, Conley, and other relatively under-the-radar guys...
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:27 AM ^
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:33 AM ^
"this is evident by players jumping up in rakings."
Yes, because their recruiting rankings determine their college success, right?
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:15 PM ^
Recruiting rankings are a strong predictor of college success. A 5-star recruit is far more likely to become an All-American and a high draft pick than a 4-star, a 4-star is far more likely than a 3-star, and so on. Unless you're making the banal point that not all highly recruited players do better than all less heralded players, you're wrong.
A more valid criticism of the observation that players tend to jump up in the rankings after we offer them is that recruiting rankings are partially based on the quality of offers a prospect has attracted. When a high schooler gets an offer from a big-time school, the recruiting services assume he must be pretty good.
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:35 PM ^
My point is that not all kids who are ranked higher are actually more talented. Moving up in the recruiting rankings means a guy like Mike Farrell or Josh Helmholdt thinks you're better than other guys. Nothing more and nothing less.
Being a 5-star or 4-star does not determine how successful players will be.
The second half of your post makes sense, though, and I agree.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:20 PM ^
Leveon Bell. 2-star, yes?
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:25 AM ^
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:20 AM ^
The Ohio Bobcats don't scare me at all.
Now if Ohio State offers, then I might get a little concerned...
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:59 AM ^
Ohio is a top-25 team. They are building something special in Athens. Toledo is on the cusp of breaking into the Top 25. And Kent State is running roughshod over the MAC. Our recruiting is forever screwed in Ohio.
/S
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:02 AM ^
I think that the Conley situation will be resolved before Treadwell decides where he wants to play, so the best thing to do right now is to give McQuay the best pitch.
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:27 AM ^
The Michigan coaches have already told Conley that he can play wide receiver here. That is not an issue at all in his recruitment.
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:34 AM ^
Yeah... Interestingly, they recruited Pharaoh Brown as a DE, but then also told him he could play TE if that's what he preferred. And we all know how that turned out.
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:49 AM ^
Freaking Quacks stealing our recruits.
We'll be okay whatever the young man decides to do.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:16 AM ^
As long as Michigan coaches are making their no visit policy perfectly clear to recruits before they commit, I have no issues with it. If a player decides to take visits and is willing to lose his scholly to Michigan, then it is his decision to make. I would have loved to have Pharaoh Brown, David Dawson, and Gareon Conley (if he decides to leave) on the team, but I don't want want anyone who doesn't want to be here.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:07 AM ^
The one hard thing to deal with when landing lots of verbals early is the chance of losing guys. Sometimes it feels like our classes only get worse after a certain point when you're looking for them to get better because we lose guys who were previously committed. Don't get me wrong, I think we are doing fantastic with recruiting. But, you never want to lose a guy and last year and this it seems like we always have the threat of losing some of our best guys. I sure hope he stays and I can't imagine we wouldn't give him a shot at WR if he wanted since that's a position of need as well.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:29 AM ^
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:30 AM ^
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:51 AM ^
I hope that Conley comes to Michigan. But not at any cost. He really needs to be sure that this is where he wants to be. If he really has cold feet, if he wants to go to Oregon, or even Ohio State, he should do it.
Although, the chance to be under Mattison should be very appealing to anyone on defense. Ohio has a tire fire on defense, and it isn't going to get better quickly. They are going to win the rest of their games, lose to Michigan, and have nothing til next year. An 11-1 team can't really justify firing the entire defense after one year. So they'll be stuck with the same defensive staff until at least 2014.
The real reason I'm posting, though, is because the recruit attrition IS EXACTLY WHAT HOKE PREDICTED. We were all worrying about not having enough spots. And sure enough, spots are opening up. Yes, I'd love to have Dawson and Conley, should he leave. But if both are gone, that leaves room for Green, Treadwell, McQuay, and one other late rising recruit that everyone has missed on. If you do your job well on recruiting, you can afford to lose one here and there.