turtleboy

December 21st, 2011 at 7:00 PM ^

Since there were 2 of them, and they were both highly skilled, I would say they both ran the show, as Co-coordinators. Charlie Strong had been there for 5 or 6 years as the sole defensive coordinator. When they brought Mattison in he was the better defensive coach, but Strong was also named the Assistant Head Coach. Your guess is as good as mine. I think that it didn't matter who was "really, really" in charge because they worked well together for at least 3 years and won the National Championship.

WolvinLA2

December 21st, 2011 at 7:17 PM ^

I'm not saying that system can't work successfully.  I'm not saying having this guy and Fickell as co-DCs will fail.  I'm just saying, one of them is the DC, and the other guy is a D-line coach with a better title.  Only one of them calls the plays and only one of them is the boss.  If there is a disagreement between the two of them, one of them overrules the other. 

If you're Luke Fickell, you might be OK with that, if you think the alternative is to just be the DL coach.  But you also might not be.  If Urban though Fickell could handle the defense on his own, he wouldn't have hired this guy.

WolvinLA2

December 21st, 2011 at 8:45 PM ^

I have no idea which is which, but I know that one of them is in charge and one of them isn't, it's just the way it is.  When the players look to the sideline, there aren't two guys making the calls.  And I promise Urban sees one of them as the guy in charge of the defense. 

Think of this is any other job.  You might have two guys who run an office or a department together, but at the end of the day one of them is the sherriff and the other is the deputy.

UncleVic

December 21st, 2011 at 6:51 PM ^

Sounds like they hired someone that fits the status quo. I'll assume by not the squeakiest clean program,  you meant a heaping pile of filthy cheating.

Worked for Auburn when they brought in Gene Writing Chizicks.

 

 

 

turtleboy

December 21st, 2011 at 6:51 PM ^

Luke Fickell is a DLine specialist, Everett Withers is a Secondary specialist. Like most of Meyers assistants I wouldn't expect him to stay long, but only becasue he's a really good defensive coach. His defenses consitently intercept passes at a high rate everywhere he goes.

StraightDave

December 21st, 2011 at 6:54 PM ^

This is a polite way of Urban telling Fickell to get the fuck out!   Classy guy.  I can see why the recruits and the co-eds flock to him.

FL_Steve

December 21st, 2011 at 7:02 PM ^

I feel every move Meyers is making is just digging that school down south into a deeper and deeper hole, this may be their version of our Rodriguez years, too bad they are not loosing more scholarships, but maybe enough will jump ship to replicate our depth chart. Wishful thinking i'm sure. But a dreamer can dream, a dreamer can dream

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

December 21st, 2011 at 7:36 PM ^

Being the guy that UNC promoted after the housecleaning, I doubt Withers is all that dirty, necessarily.  How many people around here said "I feel sorry for Fickell" after all?  He's a solid DC, too.  Had some pretty good D's at UNC.

dj89

December 21st, 2011 at 7:57 PM ^

Sounds like a kid who didn't get his first date until the age of 30 when his aunt set him up with a 4th cousin, Ella, on a blind date which ended at 3:00 AM in a nip joint outside of Morgantown swallowing the tongue of a boy named Bubba while Ella lay passed out on the floor.  I am not worried about him.

BoFlex

December 21st, 2011 at 9:27 PM ^

Urban's staff:

Co-DC - Luke Fickell - Retained

OC/QB Coach - Tom Herman - Former OC of Iowa State

Co-DC - Everett Withers - Former interim HC and DC of UNC

LB Coach - Mike Vrabel - Retained

DB Coach - Taver Johnson - Retained

RB Coach - Stan Drayton - Retained

 

Feelings on the hires so far? Is it what you expected so far, or underwhelming?

WolverineLake

December 21st, 2011 at 9:53 PM ^

  So, when I read this:

A few years ago we talked when the Florida defensive coordinator job came open.

I immediately thought that he was no better than the runner-up for the D-coodinator job at Florida.  I'm going to go ahead and believe that.  It's comforting.  Like warm cocoa.

 

Sione's Flow

December 22nd, 2011 at 12:41 AM ^

My thinking is that "the Urb" is going to slowly but surely force Fickell out.  Fickell has probably relayed to "the Urb" that the interview at Pitt went well and he's probably not going to be at tsiO for an extended period of time.  Being that Fickell is a bucknut through and through, the school is definitely not rewarding him for his loyalty during the shit storm, that probably isn't over yet.  If Easy Gee and Mean Gene, have shown us anything in the last year, it's that they don't have a f'n clue as to what's happening in that program.  I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Craig James, well you know the rest.

DefenseWins

December 22nd, 2011 at 1:55 AM ^

Wasn't everyone's firsth thought that a cheater hired another cheater, allegedly of course?  Obviously, I'm not sure of the specifics of what happened with him and the wrongdoing at NC.  But Urb hiring a guy from a program just tarnished by a scandal was hilarious to me.