Ohio and Indiana game thread
We had yesterday. Again, Gene Staratore sucks.
the decision would have been made to guard the inbounds pass with 2.4 seconds to play in regulation yesterday (or fouling as instructed), the fucking refs would not have mattered.
Insanity= doing the same thing over and over again to the same results but still expecting a different outcome.
The refs do suck, but our team still has control over the outcome.
Completely agree that a big man should have been on the inbounder (ask Pitino and Kentucky fans) A 30 ft. inbound pass to the middle lane is virtually impossible if a big is on inbounder, a long pass over the head of inbound defender will give defense plenty of time to close and be in position to foul.Defense should force inbound pass toward sideline.Also defenders should always overplay the strong hand of offensive players on the floor.If you decide to NOT guard the inbounder you have 5 defending 4,so how do you use the 5th defender? The LAST place you put him (if up 3) is underneath your basket or inside the 3 point arch (where McGary was). You either double team the most obvious offensive threat ( Wis doesn't have 1) or you use the 5th guy to double the guy who receives the inbound pass.The best place to position the 5th defender is at mid court and tell him to sprint to wherever the inbound pass goes.None of that happened so we are now in a must win situation tues. GO BLUE
Living in Columbus, effects my judgement.
Even if it helps us, I cannot cheer for Ohio. I find life easier when they loose. Today's recruiting news, Marshall choosing Urban's crew is enough of that kind of news today. Go IU.
Living here makes me root against osu no matter the collateral effect. Their misery is my salvation.
All my OSU buddies were so happy we lost yesterday (several Facebook posts and texts), all I said today was; "ain't karma a bitch".
Ohio can't afford to lose this game because the refs in Bloomington are going to be even worse.
why.is it better for UM is Ohio wins? We still play IU and thus can hand them another loss. Explain please.
Would you rather UM wins the title outright, or just a share of the title? Any IU loss helps increase the chance of UM winning the title outright.
Win the tourney and you are Big Ten Champs. It doesn't really matter if the regular season title is shared or won outright..
Conference title and conference tourney are two different things. We got a share of the conference title last year, and that's what I would rather have. It shows several months of superior play on the road and home versus a two day lucky streak in a neutral venue.
It is best for UM if OSU and IU split their series and each pick up a loss. The best chance of that happening is for OSU and IU to both win at home. I highly doubt OSU can win at Assembly Hall.
It's simple: we want any team ahead of us to lose. IU is currently a half-game ahead of us (and one in the loss column), while Ohio is a half-game behind us.
If Ohio wins and we beat MSU, there will be a five-way tie for first place - and we'll have the most favorable schedule the rest of the way. So that's the logical thing to root for.
(BTW, to the OP, you might want to change the title to make it clear that this is about today's games and not just rants about officiating.)
make chicken soup out of chicken shit..
Seriously How hard is it find competent refs?
The Saginaw Valley League has better refs than the B1G
Pretty hard, apparently. I think it'd be better if they were made to be full time employees, with no other job than to officiate. In the off season they could be lent out to the schools for practice purposes, and their other down time could be spend studying etc...
There's plenty of money in NCAA basketball to pay for it.
competent refs are clearly the exception...
Ohio y u no play like you did in Ann Arbor?
think Tom Crean looks like Dwight Schrute?
I had that exact thought last year after their Kentucky game.
Get a real haircut.
At work and not watching the game. I did however, see that Craft has 4 fouls. How is that possible? He is the best defender who ever lived!
He just fouled out. A big part of me is enjoying seeing him sulk right now.
There are no such thing as "Big 10 refs" in basketball.
NCAA basketball officials are not confined to/employed by particular conferences the way that football and hockey officials are. They work games all over the country in all sorts of conferences.
True, although the veterans have more say into where they get assigned. Ed Hightower, for instance, lives in Illinois and largely works games in the Great Lakes region.
I thought that was the definition of a tech right there. No call huh? Hmmm
What the five fingers say to the face?
I don't always cheer against Ohio State, but when I do I drink...
No. Funk dat. I always cheer for them to lose.
I see NC State hit a trey at the buzzer to beat Clemson. I guess I'm happy but it still feels too soon to see another buzzer-beater go down even if it technically "helps" Michigan.
A day when Ohio loses is a good day.
So OSU sold the naming rights for cash? Wow, and you guys say Ann Arbor is a whore.
What's the Horseshoe called these days? Pizza Hut Stadum?
And despite paying for the exposure, I still have no idea what you can buy at Value City,I just heard it would be a good value(and that its a city).
is REALLY old news.
I think Indiana is the class of the conference right now, especially with holding wins over us, MSU, and Ohio State. Too bad they don't play Wisconsin again.
show a little more maturity in the last 5 min of games with Zeller, Oladipo and Hulls.
If both teams play to their talent level and we avoid the late brain cramps, we'll win a close game.
Thanks for nothing Buckeyes.
Mostly that defense made me concerned about our defense. Indiana is a little better than us because they have a stopper, but they shouldn't be that much better. Of course we defended OSU fine in the last 30 in Columbus.
Maybe it really is Morgan.
The performance by Indiana today in Columbus was their best of the season, in my opinion. I still had doubts about how good IU was because I hadn't seen them dominate on the road but they dominated a good team on the road today. If IU can turn in more games like that on the road, it will be tough to take the conference from them. We need to win in EL on Tuesday or I think a 2 game deficit may be too much to overcome. We are still waiting to have a break-out performance by GRIII and Stauskas against a top opponent on the road. Let's hope it happens Tuesday. Go Blue!!!
2012-13 Big Ten STANDINGS
|#12 Michigan State||9-2||--||20-4||UM,IU,UW||OSU,UM|
|#10 Ohio State||7-4||2||17-6||MSU||UW,IU|
We still control our destiny for a co-B1G championship. And the most difficult remaining schedules lie w/ IU and MSU.
And lose their big road games (I don't consider the Gophers in that category anymore), it looks like a four-way tie for the title. The only way to probably avoid a shared title is to win at MSU this week.
is arbitrary, but the Gophers only home loss in the B1G thus far has been to Mich. Also, MN took out MSU there way back in 2012 (Dec 31).
Also, despite only being 3-7 in B1G play, two of the Illini's wins have been at home against OSU & IU. However, there will be no more Dr Jekyl appearances at Assembly Hall (Champaign), as none of the B1G contenders still have to go there.
Just trying to do the mental calculations of what I think s likely chalk. And that would turn last year's 3-way tie to a 4-way tie this year. Odds are someone upsets somebody big time, killing some contender, but who is impossible to guess.
I think UM's hopes of winning an outright title come down to whether they can win Tuesday. A loss Tuesday and the best they can probably hope for is a co-championship.
IU just kicked the shit out of Ohio in used furniture arena...might have been the most impressive B1G win this year.
IU jumped out to the lead and other than a couple stretches in the first half, IU always looked like they were in control of the game. Very impressive.
that ohio is in every one of our athlete's heads. These recruits are picking ohio because thats the program that dominated when they were growing up. Our current players are also used to them dominating and it shows when they look like deer in headlights when we play them, imagery is very powerful
Is Illinois in Indiana's head? We won comfortably there; they lost.
Or could it be simply down to matchups? IU isn't as dependent on its point guard as we are, and Ohio's best defender is its point guard?
That's what they get for talking trash yesterday
My thoughts were we wanted IU to win, so I'm happy. Plus it's Ohio losing so I'm extra happy. Downside: I'm still pissed about us on Saturday and still think we have a tough hill to climb to get to the top of this B1G mountain.