Messing with the game balls and your team still gave up 700 yards of offense.
I don't know if this is actually his fault, but this seems like the place to say this. I assumed that Al Davis was just bonkers and wrong, but his assessment of Lane Kiffin was probably his most lucid and prescient moment of the last decade of his life. What a scumbag.
I was in the same boat. I figured Al Davis was just being crazy again. But apparently he was on the money, in maybe unplayed just how slimy Kiffin really is.
But he deflated his balls (ha, ha). Oregon has their own pair (ha,ha) so giving up tht many yards of offense is irrelevant isn't it?
Also what's the advantage of deflated balls (ha, but seriously)?
a slightly deflated ball would be easier to catch and hold to as a running back.
I would think it would suck passing.
Correct to the first two, somewhat correct to the last.
The amount of deflation needed to make it a lot easier to catch is little enough that it would have a negligible effect on throwing.
I didn't make that very clear. Let me try again, this time with visuals!
1 |--------------5--------------| 10
For throwing to be effected (more difficult to throw), the deflation number would need to be at least a 5.
For catching to be effected (easier to catch), the deflation number would need to be at least a 2.
QED as long as the footballs aren't deflated too much, everything should check out.
But I was browsing the roster, and noticed that Jack Kennedy may graduate with a 100% completion rating, 158.8 passer efficiency rating, and averaging 6 ypc (1/1 passing, 1 carry for 6 yards)
It was known. Jack Kennedy will be the most accurate passer ever at Michigan. Have some points to push you on your way to start a thread.
The points aren't real...
The cake is a lie...
The (MMB) cake is not a lie and it will be back in the Big House during pregame against Iowa.
-I understood your reference but then I made it about Michigan, specifically the band.
-I'm still sad that Carl was sick at that game that I linked to.
not sure a new thread about Jack Kennedy's completion percentage is necessary.
in a diary for Senior Day, though. Anyone want to get on that?
William Dougall protests!
The real question here is who do you think will wear his #14 Legends jersey?
Yeah, so sure it was without the knowledge of any higher-ups. People don't just do things like that.
But he took the fall and he didn't give anyone else up. People like those kind of things, it won't go unnoticed.
claim to fame.
"Everybody gets pinched. But you did it right. You told 'em nothing and they got nothing...I'm proud of you. You took your first pinch like a man and you learned the two greatest things in life...Never rat on your friends and always keep your mouth shut." - Lane Kiffin
That didn't help Paulie Cicero or Jimmy Conway.
And Henry's life afterward: "And that's the hardest part. Today everything is different; there's no action... have to wait around like everyone else. Can't even get decent food - right after I got here, I ordered some spaghetti with marinara sauce, and I got egg noodles and ketchup. I'm an average nobody... get to live the rest of my life like a schnook. "
about that ending is that in a world where movie gansters often want "out" and become desperate to dissasociate themselves from their past (Godfather, Heat, etc.), Hill never identified how inherently flawed and unsustainable "the lifestyle" was. He viewed being allowed to not go to prison and actually just "live" as an insult, like he was being subjected to cruel and unusual punishment above that which a gangster should ever being forced to withstand. That was what was fascinating about both that book and movie. He just never got it.
As for Kiffin and USC, what did you expect? The WORST HIRE EVER. That guy is just trouble.
The NCAA's slimiest program hired football's most unctuous coach. That might be their best hire ever, at least in terms of being a good "fit."
The USC coaching staff....
balls. lane's balls?
Can Kiffin get any slimier?
Serious question: does Lane Kiffin have a soul?
Of course he does...he shares one with Nick Saban. Lane gets it on M-W-F, while Sabs gets it on T-R-Sun They flip a ball boy to determine who gets it on Saturdays.
Actually, I think neither get it on Saturdays. Especially fall Saturdays both seem to be soulless. /s
soooo how does deflated balls help your team again?
Seems to me like deflated balls would NOT be one of his issues but what do i know....
Is not Layla Kiffin. It's Elin Nordegren.
Tiger, C'mon son!
Barkley has small hands. And you know what they say about small hands. They don't really say anything about small hands.
A) There is no way this kid went rouge and did this without being told to.
B) I wonder how much it would cost to get the fired manager to talk on the record about it.
With girls like this hanging out at games, that there would be no problems keeping your balls inflated.
You might want to get checked out. That's not quite how it should work.
Lane's wife's hotness is inversly proportional to his morals. This guy has already left more than one fan base hating him, and I feel like the list will grow like a wildfire before all is said and done. How many years until he's run out of USC? Who knows...
The strange thing about Kiffin is he hasn't won anywhere. His career arch would indicate that he has been successful, but that is not accurate. It's as if he has naked pictures of everybody's wife or something. Maybe he does?
And it wouldn't cover up his mediocre coaching.
Based on the sentiment out here right now...probably not too long. This fanbase was convinced they'd have a national title and a Heisman trophy after this season. Now it's almost certain they'll have neither and will likely finish with 4-6 losses. Yeah, people aren't thrilled with Kiffin right now.
He has naked pictures of my wife?! I didn't even know I was married.
I follow the team pretty close and he's safe unless there is something huge on the violations front. He's an outstanding recruiter. People's expectations were maybe not in line with reality this season. There were lots of road games and the PAC is a lot better league than when Carroll was running over it every year. USC is mostly a young team and will have 17 starters back next year. Plus they'll have really only 3 difficult games with two of them at home and no Oregon.
We all saw the difference the home-road thing made this season with Michigan.
Now if he goes 8-4 next year, the seat might be heating up.
This offseason don't be surprised if there are staff changes made including his dad retiring as defensive coordinator and maybe hiring an offensive coordinator/quarterback's coach. My understanding is his relationship with Barkley is unnecessarily prickly and a buffer between the quarterback and coach might be in order. These changes will be an almost certainty if they don't beat UCLA and lose the south.
Yeah, I agree he won't be canned after this year, but if they lose even one more game (and they play two teams ranked above them) his seat will be hot. SC fans will not put up with many 3 and 4 loss seasons, especially when they know they out talent every team they play.
They'll probably only lose 3 starters on each side of the ball after this season, but they'll likely lose 5 each after 2013, with depth starting to become an issue. If they have another 3+ loss season next year, people will be calling for Lane's head.
Well I think from what you are saying and what I am reading fans already are wanting a change. The issue is more about Pat Haden and what his plans are. By most accounts they have a great working relationship. When given the chance to distance himself from Kiffin since taking over as AD, Haden has done totally the opposite. Recall that Kiffin was under the gun from the NCAA over stuff from his Tennessee seasonand Haden looked at it and subsequently backed him unequivocally. Even appearing on his behalf before the committee on infractions.
My guess is the things working in Lane's favor currently with Haden are:
--His age and his desire to remain at the school for as long as he coaches which brings attractive continuity
--His excellence in recruiting
--His having to deal with a talent dip left by Pete's two very weak last 2 full classes in terms of offensive linemen, d linemen, and linebackers. The 08 and 09 classes whiffed heavily on quality o linemen and left the new regime scrambling and rebuilding quality depth. When we say out talent other teams, that's true and it's not. The trenches matter and they weren't being addressed adequately before Lane took over.
--His guiding them through probation and two very high quality wins last season.
--He is considered a bright mind offensively in a lot of circles
--The lack of reasonable alternatives that bring the above attributes to the table. One guy who would fit the mold and would bring a smoother presence with the media and probably a more likable reputation overall would be Sarkisian at UW. Now if he is at all available after next season, Kiffin's seat gets very hot with a 3 plus loss season. Sark was very popular in Los Angeles and has all of Lane's upside without the side shows that seem to erupt.
It will be interesting and I do think there will absolutely be staff changes in the off season barring a rally to end all and a Rose Bowl berth.
Haden supports Kiffin, but what else is he going to do? Public speak out against his coach? DB supported RR too, but he still fired him. I agree Lane wont get fired after this season, but he'll need to put together something big over the rest of this season and the next to keep it beyond 2013. My guess is that if he loses 4 more games before the end of the 2013 season (bowls excluded) he'll be gone.
I agree with you that Sark is a much better coach, but he's putting together a pretty good squad in Washington and I don't think he'll leave. They're not great this year, but they're recruiting we'll and hold be good soon.
You can definitely be a power program up there and if Kelly leaves Oregon for the pros (as is widely rumored), the North goes back to Washington as a lead dog most likely. So him leaving is remote I agree.
I am coming out for Notre Dame on the 24th. I am going to the Michigan-Ohio watch Saturday morning at American Junkie in Hermosa Beach. Is that where you go? I'd like to buy you a couple rounds.
Before I was a dad I lived in Hermosa, but that was before American Junkie existed (it was called Sangria and was not much of a sports place). You'll have a good time - Hermosa is full of Michigan grads (as well as other Big Ten grads) so the atmosphere will be great I'm sure. I will be in my little suburb 40 miles north of there because I'm now an old guy. Thanks for the offer though.
Great to hear and it's good to talk to a grown up. Might hopefully rub off on me.
Pretty much any place in the Southland is great to be and live in my book. Love that place. I'll be there 5 days so if you can get into town, we'll have to get together and chew the fat.
I'd like to pick your brain about your favorite restaurants. If you can make time, shoot email me at [email protected]? Whatever you can do I'd be so appreciative. It's been 7 years since I have been in Los Angeles. When I was there before I worked so many hours in my brief stay I basically lived off McDonalds and Corn Nuts driving around in a car all day.
I think hes done after this year
As both a USC and Michigan alum, this type of thing makes me appreciate Brady Hoke so much more. I did not like the hire of Kiffin, and I did not like AD Mike Garrett who hired him.
USC hired Pat Haden after Kiffin was hired and Haden is cut from the same cloth as Dave Brandon. USC has put a lot of money this year into a new football practice facilities and I'm not sure his loyalty is to Kiffin a la DB to RR.
I would not be surprised if after probation ends, Haden looks to go in a different direction.
Apparently part of the Trojan mystique is to fall on your sword to protect the rest of the program, because that's the only reason why this kid would be taking full "blame" for deflating balls. I knew student managers while at UM, and those guys don't remove dirt from the ball without a coach's approval. To think some kid independently deflated a bunch of balls after a couple of officials approved them is ludicrous.
You are 100% correct. I was a michigan manager. No manager would EVER do something like this without either approval or a coach telling them to do it. It just couldn't happen.
Hopefully this sort of thing isn't so common as to need a fix, but this would be less likely to happen if both teams had to use a common set of balls. I don't know the history--how did this become normal in football? Except for bowling, where your ball has to custom-fit your hand, I can't think of another sport where this is done.
Ed.: forgot golf. Gofl's a special case, I suppose--it's self-policing in a way few sports are. Football certainly isn't.
A couple more losses this year and watch Kiffin get a promoted to the Lingerie Football League.