Official Vent Thread
October 27th, 2012 at 11:33 PM ^
But next year concerns me more. I can't see how we will be successful unless Morris is immediately ready to go. I know Bellomy was put in a bad spot (night game, Nebraska, etc.) but as a redshirt freshman, he has had two years to learn the offense and Borges didn't trust him either. Plus, if all Nebraska had to do was blitz every down to contain the offense, what does that say about the offense in future years?
If Al doesn't trust Denard and Bellomy, who's left? Clearly it would be Gardner, but he was nowhere to be found because we needed his 6-5 frame to get outjumped for a ball in the endzone. If Morris isn't ready, Devin HAS to be the guy who is the stopgap next year or it won't be pretty.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:34 PM ^
It was dispicable before Denard got hurt, and it was dispicable after. Just in a different way. We haven't scored a touchdown in 8 fucking quarters.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:36 PM ^
Yet we still won the game last week.
Chill out.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:34 PM ^
Defense DID NOT implode, were playing younger guys throughout the 4th. Bellomy looks very bad. Devin should have gotten some snaps if they actually still even consider him a QB. Fitz and Smith are nothing special. Really wanted to see Rawls tonight, I can bet he is very frustrated with his lack of carries. Nebraska has @Michigan State next week and Penn State in two weeks, they will lose another Big Ten game, there is no doubt. I think Hoke knows that and just figured he would let Bellomy play out the game instead of risking Denard's health. I respect the hell out of him for that. With Minnesota, Northwestern (that looks very good), and Iowa the next three weeks - rest up, win out and it's all about BEATOHIO.
October 28th, 2012 at 11:34 AM ^
He really couldn't very well "risk" Denards' health, given Denard couldn't even hold a ball...
October 27th, 2012 at 11:34 PM ^
Motherfuwkinsopissedoffthatwewerenotpereparedtodealwithahurtdenardwhytheyfuckwouldyounotbepreparfedforwhendenardgetshurtwtfwtfwtfareyoukiddingme?!?
October 27th, 2012 at 11:34 PM ^
It could be worse. We will get better. The sun will come up in the morning. Life.Will.Go.On. Go Blue
October 27th, 2012 at 11:35 PM ^
Yeah...no shit. What's your point?
October 27th, 2012 at 11:48 PM ^
The point is that everyone needs to relax a bit. But I understand that this is a venting thread so I apologize for not freaking out.
ARRRGHHH!!! FIRE BORGES!!! FIRE BRANDON!!! DENARD IS A PUNK FOR NOT COMING BACK IN THE GAME!!! FIRE HIS NERVES!!! BELLOMY SUCKS @$$!!! AAARRRRRGGGGG!!!! *Epic fist shake at the imaginary football gods* (is that better?)
October 27th, 2012 at 11:43 PM ^
Get a different hobby or go hang out in an AOL chatroom. Telling people to breath on a mgovent thread is like putting your hand in a blender on puree.
October 28th, 2012 at 11:35 AM ^
Well, he could still do that... You listening?
October 27th, 2012 at 11:34 PM ^
Everyone bitching about Bellomy, how many schools across the country would fair well if their starting QB went out? In all reality he should be 3rd on the depth chart! If Martinez goes out we win and Nebraska's offense looks the same. Give the kid a break!
October 27th, 2012 at 11:40 PM ^
OSU led a giant comeback against Purdue with their backup. Yeah, Purdue, but still high pressure.
No one's saying Bellomy had to come in and be Denard. But three picks and starting 0-10 is inexcusable.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:40 PM ^
Going three for 16 for 38 yards and three interceptions is a far cry from even doing mediocre. Most people would expect the backup quarterback to be at least serviceable in the game. He was terrible
October 27th, 2012 at 11:42 PM ^
ND seems to be doing ok with a mix of qbs when needed. Listen its about preparation. Obviously not happening at the level required.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:34 PM ^
My favorite part of the second half was when I caught my nuts in the zipper.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:43 PM ^
Damn ... Summed it up well
October 27th, 2012 at 11:54 PM ^
I needed that laugh badly!
October 27th, 2012 at 11:35 PM ^
Well now I'm afraid the dog and cat will not be able to recover from what I just yelled at the TV.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:35 PM ^
1. Bellomy really does not look like a plan B. someone needs to get enough reps to be a viable QB the next time Denard goes down.
2. Borges is frustrating. Even before Denard was hurt, the play-calling was as predictable as last week. I excuse not to have had 2-3 scores before halftime. Including at least one if those touchdowny things.
3. Big test of coaching staff now. We are much better than our next three opponents. Need to have a gamepllan that gives us a chance of success.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:36 PM ^
Defense was tired after all the tree and outs
October 27th, 2012 at 11:36 PM ^
Per Hoke on post game show DR hurt his nerve again and couldn't feel the football well in his hand. It did get better at the end of the game.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:37 PM ^
Major concern is that we've heard how good Bellomy has looked in practice, much like how we heard before the season that Denard had improved as a passer. I'm worried that our QB coach (who also moonlights as our OC) is blowing smoke because he's not a very good coach. And with no improvement, that makes me extremely worried for our offensive future. Defense should be fine, but we will be in trouble on offense.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:48 PM ^
I agree with you but what do you expect them to say? Denard still throws off the back foot and we're hoping for a 50% pass completion ratio and Bellamy can't throw more than 20 yards down the field?
October 27th, 2012 at 11:57 PM ^
True enough, but when we see it with our own eyes that Denard has not improved and Bellomy is clearly not ready to help this team, then you have to wonder if Borges is teaching well enough. I think most of us would agree that he is not and that's such an interesting contrast with our defense where we have seem players make tremendous improvement under Mattison.
October 28th, 2012 at 12:06 AM ^
Mattison is elite and Borges is just a throwaway coordinator - you can find a Borges at 50 other schools. That said it doesnt change the talent level - DRob is an athlete playing QB who can excel against moderate to poor defenses and suffer against top level defenses and Bellomy looks lost. Gardner also in my eyes has been a bust at QB as he showed nothing in his mop up duty the past two years. Shane will be the first QB recruited by this crew so if he doesnt develop you know you have a serious issue.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:37 PM ^
I hope ND wins out and goes to the NC game and gets smoked by Alabama 45-0, in the first half.
October 28th, 2012 at 1:04 AM ^
I was thinking the same thing earlier this evening.
I really wanted OU to smoke ND. I can't stand the thought of ND going undefeated and getting the nod to play for the NC. The only thing that would make up for that injustice would be 'Bama just spanking 'em.
And to make matters worse, I tried for umpteenth time to make decent marinara sauce and I just can't get the damn stuff to come out like Leonoro's in Charleston, WV. My wife loves their sauce and by comparison I'm just a freakin' loser when it comes to cooking. Where the hell is my cat ... I need to kick something. :-)
October 27th, 2012 at 11:37 PM ^
There I said it, I feel better now.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:38 PM ^
This sucks yes. I look at it as not being prepared. I'm an offensive coordinator for a semi pro team in upstate ny and even at that level I prepare at the end of each practice with my back up quarterbacks including how the game plan would change should they come in the game. It appears that al Borges doesn't believe in adjusting to what his players do best instead just sticking to what he likes. Honestly I would have started Bellomy off with two simple power type handoffs down inside the ten and then go 5 wide to see the field and throw a quick slant. After halftime I would have started him out with a swing pass or two, a screen, a bubble. The main thing is giving him confidence. Also fitz was doing nothing so bring in Rawls and pound the rock to try for 3rd and short or at least get someone else for the defense to worry about. A young quarterbacks best friend is a running game and a tight end. Running east and west with a non mobile quarterback is beyond retarded. Borges set Bellomy up for failure, and in return failure, is what he got. Going forward something has to give with the play calling. Every single week that we have played a team with a legit defense we have watched as our offense goes east and west for a yard at best on first down putting us behind the chains on almost every drive. There has to be more to this offense. I don't see any mis direction, any counter, or anything to get us ahead in down and distance on first down. You can't tell me he doesn't know any better bc he did coach that auburn team that went 13-0 and he used a bruising running game and all sorts of misdirection and opened up the passing game downfield. I'm very frustrated because as an offensive coordinator you're supposed to prepare for everything and be able to adapt. He really should take heat for this loss and how we've looked against solid defenses.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:40 PM ^
tl:dr
October 27th, 2012 at 11:43 PM ^
First off that's a lot of letters/words with no formatting, its hard to read. Secondly nobody cares that you're an OC for a semi-pro team, its already your signature, you don't need to point it out in most of your posts.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:44 PM ^
I mention it because so many idiots that don't know the game always ask for credentials when I give advice. And actually were not crappy we would actually beat this Michigan team hands down
October 27th, 2012 at 11:48 PM ^
"And actually were not crappy we would actually beat this Michigan team hands down"
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
(breath)
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
October 27th, 2012 at 11:48 PM ^
Ohhhhh ok, sure, yep, mmmhmm.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:57 PM ^
That's pretty funny. I know you coach a semi-pro team but have you ever seen one play?
October 28th, 2012 at 1:01 AM ^
with the Flint Tropics and Will Ferrell?
October 27th, 2012 at 11:43 PM ^
No - wait - we are supposed to do the Denard semi-handoff every play because it makes ghost Denard the extra blocker...
like other teams don't watch tape
like I can't put a blitz to that side and stop it
October 27th, 2012 at 11:38 PM ^
Just going to say: Hoke's refusal to play hurry-up is ridiculous. "We're a defensive team, and we play to limit opponent possessions" works great until you're down 14 with 7 minutes left and you literally cannot win unless you hurry. I'd also say that half the reason our defense had so much trouble against Nebraska's hurry-up is because they don't play against it in practice.
Hope someone calls out the coaches in the post-game presser. Seriously, what was the game-plan there besides "Denard makes magic"? Why is Bellomy not even marginally decent? Three picks? Seriously? WTF.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:38 PM ^
Oh Hai TWIS glad you found us.....
October 27th, 2012 at 11:38 PM ^
besides hoping that Morris is ready next year,we better hope like hell we get Treadwell. we need recievers badly!!
October 27th, 2012 at 11:39 PM ^
The coaches forced Devin Gardner into the game almost every week at quarterback last year. They obviously saw something positive that caused the 2 QB at a time experimentation we saw. The guy appears to have all the physical tools and the recruiting ranking pedigree.
It certainly isn't his fault, but I've never seen Russell Bellomy do anything on or off the field and thought, "Boy, that guy looks like a D-1 QB."
There are obviously a combination of things going on with Gardner trying to play receiver but I can't imagine what is going on to make anyone remotely comfortable with Bellomy playing or decide he's the best option of those two under the circumstances we saw tonight.
Then again, I don't know how you decide that, after getting the ball back after a game-saving play by the defense down by 7 in the 4th quarter, now is the time to let Russ unleash the dragon. Was the plan really, "Fuck it, let this guy chuck it down the sideline and see what happens!"
October 27th, 2012 at 11:51 PM ^
"The guy appears to have all the physical tools" that means nothing, sorry. THat was used as a reason to be a WR as well. He has not showed at any position other than to be average at best. I cant remember one play over the past 2 years where I said "Gosh that kids going to be a star" when he did mop up play at QB. If he was progressing per his credentials and "tools" there is no way he would have been moved from QB the most important position in any team sport. It tells me the coaches have seen little of him other than raw athleticism at QB.
October 28th, 2012 at 12:08 AM ^
Why did they keep taking Denard out of games or moving him to WR last year so they could play Garnder at QB? You can't say, "Obviously he can't play the position and the coaches see that." and then justify why a year earlier in his development they were doing everything they could to bring him into games and throw the ball. And don't forget how many people were clamoring for him to replace Denard because he was a "real QB" who could "throw the ball downfield."
And seriously, pop in a tape or whatever of that drive against Illinois last year. If you think that guy looks anything but vastly superior to Russell Bellomy then you are high as fuck.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:39 PM ^
Ok did anyone else notice Denard's attitude after getting benched? Not with offense when they came off field....not coaching up Bellomy after first series?? WTF?!? Be a leader and not a whiner cause your hurt!! Plus Al needs to go...these seniors deserve more than his quitting attitude!! Wtf!!
October 27th, 2012 at 11:42 PM ^
(eye roll)
October 27th, 2012 at 11:44 PM ^
Got your eye roll...back at you with my two middle fingers raised in your direction!!!
October 27th, 2012 at 11:49 PM ^
You are just upset that you aren't the craziest person on this thread. Keep the good work, some day you'll make it to the top.
October 28th, 2012 at 12:25 AM ^
Well I see your two middle fingers, and back at you with a Bolivian Supreme.
[ED: Obviously this was intended to be a reply to Talcelm, who no can haz points]
October 28th, 2012 at 10:58 AM ^
Deducting points is fine but to post a snarky response after is really lame. You don't need to try so hard. Just do your job. kthnxbai