I am going to start creating these now - this is the official snowflake thread for thoughts about the offense and offensive playcalling.
landing spot. will be interesting to see how he does.
I'd have rather had Beth Mowins and Pam Ward tag-team the announcing duties than listen to those jokers.
Mike Patrick and that other shit sipper have moved to the top of the worst announcers list.
Honestly, the worst announcing I've ever heard. And I don't even mind Pam Ward.
the way they were talking up Minn it felt like we we're down 14 rather than up 14
the way they were talking up Minn it felt like we we're down 14 rather than up 14
Tell me it wasn't hilarious when they were like "Gardner has a 57% completion rate so far against some bad opponents and that's continued today.....uh, he's 11 of 14."
Gardner wasn't super-precise but I think I'll take 11 of 14 or whatever he finished with.
76%, 235, and 13.8 ave for Gardner
He defended his comment afterwards saying "uhh.. he's 11/14. But a lot of those have been off the mark."
Gardner was off the mark. He has been throwing behind receivers all year, even before Akron.
Having said that, the announcing was bad.
They way they called that game you would have thought we were a bunch of D-III players going against an NFL All-Star team
That Countess pick was a thing of beauty, and a terrible pass.
NO TURNOVERS! RUNNING BACKS DIDN'T HAVE 10000 TFLs!
The only thing I care about today is NO TURNOVERS!!!!!!!!!
Agree... nothing to see here... bring on PSU. I'm truly scared of Indiana BTW. They will be different look. Let down look ahead in that one. But bring on PSU for now. With no turnovers all things are possible.
... it's amazing what happens when you don't turn the ball over. Running game is still horrible.
Not great yet, but I thought the running game was much improved. No auto TFL on every other run. Got something to work with there.
was better, they were running into a stacked box at times though.
Funchess is a WR right now. Get the pass catching ability without the blowing up running plays because of blocking issues.
The Funchise was easily the number one star of the game. Guy was a force out there. It was also nice to see Chesson have a solid game.
the game and afterwards at dinner chesson was there with his family. dude is tall!
I'm putting this here because I took offense. Mike Patrick needs a history lesson. That is all.
Run game is much improved. Compared to prior results at least.
I had fun being a mod. Especially at the end with all the Jake _________ comments.
Great move with Funchess out wide....he will be a mismatch year long, a slower version of Calvin Johnson! Same size
Offense snowflake: meh
Meh? 35 points on a very conservative game plan and pretty much being able to pound it besides the last drive? That's a win for this team at this point.
Eh. Running game was average to bad. Receivers (including Funchess) were great. QB average. Line play average to bad.
Why don't you root for another team?
The final score was nice but it was a close game and Minnesota got dominated by Iowa the week before at home. What is wrong with stating the obvious - this was an average performance with the main possitive being no turnovers.
Gardner had a good game statisitcally but if you watched the game you know that many or most of those throws were off target and took great catches for them to be completitions.
I think Fitz had his best game but the offensive line is still suspect - especially in run blocking. Bryant had a lot of trouble out there at LG - he was beat multiple times which I guess you can expect with his inexperience. Without watching the tape it looked like Glasgow was an improvement over Miller.
We are 5-0 but I am not comfortable with any of our remaining games.
The team won by 4 touchdowns. If that's not good enough for you, get bent.
was that before or after Minnesota never had a lead? and was never within a td in the second half aftwr our opening drive...
No, I'll continuing rooting for Michigan. They've been my team since I was five, and I'm an alum.
Thanks for your suggestion, though.
Touchdowns on 5 of 8 drives.
5 touchdowns on 8 possesions with no turnovers. Take that rate on an average game and number of possesions (which is what, 12 possesions?) and you get 7.5 touchdowns a game....seems pretty damn good to me. Yes it was sloppy, but I'll take it.
Any word on how severe the injuries were to Kalis and Pipkins?
Kalis went back into the game...
Kalis was back out there for the last offensive TD
Great news about Kalis. Michigan can probably be fine without Pipkins against PSU, but we need him for the Michigan State game.
Funchess needs to be targeted at least 10 times a game from now on.
Borges showed responsiveness to turnovers. Let Gardner get into a rhythm early in the game. Playcalling not perfect, but Borges is clearly moving in the right direction. Gotta keep moving, though.
OL with Kalis back will be much, much better than the past few weeks.
Good to have a comfortable offensive win.
This only worked because the run game could plausibly move the ball.
That's kinda the point.
"Oh, the running game is working? Good. Now we can let our QB get into a rhythm." -Al
Here's something I've noticed a lot this year: the team looks a lot different once they've finished running Al's scripted plays. The scripts actually work pretty well, and the players clearly execute well (Gardner's first drive against UConn was really sharp, for example), but then things change. Some of it is adjustments, some of it is execution, but it's a lot different.
I don't know that it's necessarily bad--part of a script's purpose is to force the defense to show what it is doing, so that adjustments can be made--but sometimes it is disappointing to see early promise erased later on in the game.
Dear MGoBlog: It is now safe to come back inside off of that ledge you have all been living on. The sky is not falling. The team will continue to grow. Devin Garnder can manage a game against an inferior team. That is all...
Penalties. And Kalis came back. Pips injury didn't look good. Any word?
Someone in the liveblog said his knee was wrapped on the sideline.
He got carted off the field late in the fourth, the knee was wrapped from what I saw.
Pass blocking was improved, run blocking seemed to be better as well at times. Gardner had a nice game, he always seemed under control and obviously Funchess only catching instead of blocking is an absolute plus.
Jake Butt on the other hand looks the part as a blocker and although he didn't have any catches today you can see a bright future for him. All in all an improvement, but they need to keep building towards more consistency.
No turnovers and only 2 penalties for 10 yards. Makes it a lot easier to win games.
Chris Bryant and Glasgow at Center made a huge difference. We didn't have DTs in the backfield as soon as the ball was snapped. Gardner had good protection. We've found our group of linemen and they will get better through the season for sure. Encouraged!
I agree we were improved. But we've been so absolutely unbelievably bad this year that it's hard to realize that we still performed well below average today on the OL.
Not to be a downer...but that wasn't the most impressive 35 points.
S except for pretty much doing what they wanted and committing zero TOs, it sucked?
It was basically 5 TDs in what, 8 possessions? One of the three stops was a blatant uncalled pass interference, too.
Would love to hear the explanation of that non-call. Did they rule it uncatchable? Right after that play Hoke had a chat with the backjudge.
"Watch the damn play." It was just a totally blown call from a ref who was probably not looking.
The ball was totally catchable; had Funch not been grabbed, he would have caught it in stride and probably gone for a TD.
When you're reduced to "WIN PRETTIER," then you should probably drink and be merry rather than whatever it is you're doing. I mean, I understand what you're saying, but now is not the time for sadness.
Five of them ended in touchdowns
How many points would you like them to generate in 8 possessions.
Green looked good early, but later on the holes dried up. Still a lot of errors from the OL, but I think things were better this week and there were a lot of positive plays.
I like how they're moving Lewan around. I also, of course, like Funchess out wide--as a second receiver he is a key player. It would be nice if he could block, but it's wise of the coaches to move him to where the need is.
Funchess at WR worked out just great today. And if you think about it, he should be a killer blocker vs corners and safeties in the open field, as opposed to LB and DL in the trenches.
BTW, does anyone know how fast Funchess is? Not questioning what his best position is, I'm just curious...
the best part of this gameplan was that DG98 wasn't 99% of the focus of it.
Great place to start, now need to get better for next weeks road game at PSU! Certainly feeling better today than after Akron or UConn. Forward ho!
for the most part, at least in terms of showing improvement in areas that were bad/horrible the last two weeks. O-line change looks like it was probally the right move. Bryant looked solid, with the exception of one passing play that resulted in a sack.
I wasn't thrilled with Al's playcalling though, thought it was too predictable. I understand trying to establish the run with the new line, but ideally playcalling should be balanced. Minny was selling out on the run on first and second down, and while it worked at times due to the talent difference, there were also times where runs didn't go anywhere because there were simply too many defenders to account for. There were also a couple possessions where they seemingly went to all passes as well.
In order to beat the better teams on the schedule the playcalling will need to strike a better balance moving forward. Too many possessions in this game where it was skewed towards the run or pass.
5 TDs out of 8 total drives. 5 for 5 in the red zone. One non-TD drive started from our own 1 and led to great field position. I'll give Borges credit for calling a good game instead of nitpicking run-pass balance on each drive (a peculiar criticism) and expecting every play to be successful.
Ideally you would like to have a good run-pass balance. They got by with it today against inferior talent, but that doesn't mean they don't need better balance and more unpredictability moving forward into the difficult part of the schedule. Not like Al's being somewhat predictable,at times, hasn't been discussed before.
I've never heard of that being a goal of any team, ever. Perhaps you're grasping at straws looking for something to criticize. On the first drive we ran every play and moved the chains and scored a TD. Late in the game we mostly ran to milk the clock with a big lead. He did throw in a few passes even then. A 2 to 1 run pass ratio considering Gardner's struggles the last two games and the score is a good overall balance. At least it is to me.
That's fine with me. If every play is the same but we still move the ball that's great, in fact.
The one strength of Minnesota's D is at the DTs. That matched up with M's interior line TFL-giveaway which we just shuffled in a new guy for his first action. The result of that was an offense that mostly marched down the field, gave up one sack, and allowed us to run virtually at will. That seems pretty good to me.
That may not work against MSU, but that was always going to be a stiff test for our line. For now, I'm not sure what else I could have asked.
than I was today. The most biased bastards in the history of college football. I would welcome Pam Ward back with a big kiss!
Every single thing DG did good or bad, they criticized. I was about a minute from turning the freaking volume off and calling it myself.
There were some angry moments in the first half, but I was encouraged by the OL. Worst part of the game was the announcing.
My best to Jerry Kill and his family.
< insert announcer inaccurate joke here >
But seriously, he was MUCH improved. He was setting his feet, actually stepped up in the pocket a couple times, took a sack instead o throwing it up. And all those "inaccurate" throws were completed, because they were put in paces the WRs could get to. It's good to know that every slightly off throw won't become DOOM. That will help his confidence. Take the small victories.
And oh, by the way, ZERO interceptions. That's a large victory.
The throw to Funchess at the goal line wasn't even inaccurate. That's exactly where you're supposed to put that ball, low and outside so that only your guy has a chance for it.
I don't think you know what outside means.
Funchess slipped because the ball was inside and he had to slow down his route and actually stop to get the ball.
An accurate ball would have been to his outside, where he could have caught it in stride and probably scored.
Akron and UConn? That's not much to gloat about. And no turnovers is not that big a deal, either. When did the standards for this team get so low?
to point out that Deveon Smith had no play, yet Justice Hayes got in once or twice.
Green played well, so there isn't much need to rotate more. And there just weren't that many plays to get other guys work.
What is your point? Hayes came in for 3rd downs on obvious passing plays.
I take two things from this game on offense. First, the OL is definitely improved with the changes and hopefully will continue to get better as they gel in game situations. Second, I think Gardner may get back to baseline in terms of confidence based on no turnovers and some long completions, namely the last one to Funchess.
Wondering about the play calls on our 2nd and 3rd possesions IIRC. Seemed to totally leave the running game. Why?
Al's playcalling was strange today. Didn't really have much of a balance, seemed heavily skewed towards pass or run on any given possession for some reason.
Today was not perfect by any means, but it was a good step in the right direction. Devin played turnover-free football and looked MUCH better today. The line looked like it was starting to get some push, and Funchess....wow, what can I say? He's a huge mismatch and a nightmare to try and cover. He looked damn good today.
Did I mention Devin had no turnovers today?
An encouraging move in the right direction ... if they continue to build on the improvements game over game. Any regression will become very problematic against better teams.
Green seems to have no YAC ability at all. unfortunate, but so far he looks like Kevin Grady 2.0. I hope I'm wrong
He had 5 carries for 20 yards at halftime I think. His YPC got skewed a bit on his goal line attempts, especially on our last TD drive.
Earl Campbell himself is not going to run over two DL.You need to chilax.
He's a true freshman playing behind a less than stellar line. Cut him some slack.
For such a big and powerful guy, Green goes down as easily as Carlos Brown.
His TD run today was basically him vs 3 guys at the 2 yard line and he plunged in easily. He's a true freshmen lets not compare him to Carlos Brown just yet.
He was basically untouched before he hit the goal line if I recall correctly.
He doesn't pick up his feet, and doesn't keep the legs churning. Hopefully it's correctable.
3rd down efficiency
4th down efficiency
Yards per pass
Yards per rush
we HAVE to win the TO battle in most games, b/c we're just not good enough rushing the ball.
DG was actually pretty effecient and the WRs bailed him out a few times, but if he limits the TOs the rest of the year, we've got a shot at the division.
if you think that eliminating turnovers is enough to give us a shot at the division. We have a below average running game, an erratic QB, and a defense that's no better than decent. You don't win championships with that kind of performance. You just don't. We are no better than 4-4 in the BT right now. OSU, MSU, Nebraska and Northwestern are all playing significantly better than us right now, and Penn State and Indiana will be close games too, and very losable. The only game we figure to be a solid favorite in is Iowa.
Excuse me??? No better than decent defense! We're 27th in the effing nation on points against per game. And that has been with a metric shit-ton of turnovers leading directly to points. Now, even without those we aren't what I'd call elite (a la MSU), but come on. It's a far cry better than decent.
These are some encouraging numbers, I would think:
3rd down efficiency
4th down efficiency
Yards Per Attempt
Yards per rush
|Avg. Yards Per Play||6.69|
|Yards Per Completion||18.08|
Also, not in this table but VERY nice - zero turnovers. A controlled game plan which worked incredibly well, I would say.
There's too much bitching about the playcalling. We saw a touchdown drive go 6 RB handoffs, 0 passes. It was a bit watered down on offense, but done so on purpose. And it worked...ZERO turnovers, which cannot be emphasized enough, to along with 35 points.
It was a bit of a "palate-cleansing" game, so to speak, offensively.
Agreed. The overall play calling was OK. Just wish Al would call more play-action passes on first down.
This team will keep getting better. The fair weather whiners I don't know about.
Very happy with how offense performed. I thought the opening drive of the third quarter was key. We were physical with the running game and mixed in some nice passes. Good game.
doesn't paint a pretty picture, but I think run blocking was better than those numbers would indicate when your factor in the goalline plays, sacks, and the fact that they were running into a stacked Minny box at times. Still needs work, but there was difference in push for the most part. Definatly the best running lanes RB's have seen so far this year.
Dragged down by the end of the game stuff I think. There weren't any huge gains to bolster it either. I think it was the best run blocked game we've seen from them this year.
It was probably about 4.2 until we were running into the stacked lines at the end. So not ideal, but tolerable. Though it'd be nice if we could just ground out drives to close games.
I have seen. The predictable playcalling in the 2nd half didn't help the rushing numbers.
UM still has a ways to go in terms of of the OL, but they improved today and that's all as a fan I can ask for.
The blocking and run game need improvement BUT aren't as bad as they look. The biggest flaw on this offense so long as the turnovers are limited is the absence of quick pass plays, screens, or anything deep that doesn't involve a slow-developing playaction set-up. Opposing defenses don't need to account for these things, and so are free to stack the box with extra defenders. Until we can force teams out of that approach, our run blocking will look worse than it is, and our pass blocking is going to lose numbers games sometimes. I know Borges hates those quick throws, but IMO it's an essential part of a balanced offense. Just because you throw the occasional slant or quick out doesn't make you a finesse spread team. It's OK, Al. We can do it.
Good point. Last time I checked it was still OK for pro style offenses to throw quick screens and slants. I'd also like to see some dive plays and not have every running play be so slowly developing.
Dude, we scored TDs on 5 of 8 offensive possessions.
How many TDs did you realistically expect us to score?
Minnesota's defense is not my concern. I'd like to beat MSU and Ohio this year.
No turnovers is what I like to hear about today. If we played like this the last two week s Michigan would be in the top 10 instead of dropping.
but I think we have the upside to become one. If we can just keep winning while we continue to improve.
Not sure about your assessment. I'd like to see a few more carries. He sure got hit immediately upon receiving the handoff quite a few times. Looked impressive on a couple runs, too.
I thought this thread was bad, but the defense thread is even worse. There's some legitimately good discussion and comments, but waaaaaay too many posters seem to have watched a funeral instead of a football game.
Running game looks markedly improved. Boringball means your numbers will probably look a bit ugly in the box score.
Gardner looks calmer, if not totally accurate. The throws to Funchess were okay, but Gallon made some nice adjustments. Also, he seems to be coming away from Gallon lock-in syndrome.
Speaking of Funchess, he murdered today. More of him, please.
The game was over in like 3 hours flat. On ESPN2. ALL the run plays and huddles!
I know the announcer meme is hysterical, but they were right about Gardner's inaccuracy. He didn't turn it over, so he's taken a step forward, but he was bailed out by quite a few nice catches. I'm sure the UFR will confirm his lack of accuracy, and then I wonder if the guys who were so bothered by the announcers will make fun of Brian.
The line was a lot better. One bad snap by Glasgow, but I was encouraged by his play. Miller seems a bit quicker and better at scoops, but I'll take that trade-off. Bryant looked good, a lot better than in the spring, when I essentially wrote him off. He might be a liability in pass protection down the line, didn't look great. Whatever, first game. Kalis cannot pull for shit, at least to the left. He's ok leading the sweep, but he gets off really slow on power. Really slow.
As for game plan, I never really criticize. All plays are OK if blocked properly. One tiny problem. On an early 3rd and 1, we ran a spread shotgun QB draw which was the most obvious call ever. I'd rather take my chances with a sneak. Seems a bit higher percentage.
Eh, of the throws they kept reshowing, the throw to Gallon on the post was inaccurate, the cross field throw to Chesson was fine, a ball that gave only him a chance to catch it, and the throw to Funchess was a dead on back shoulder throw. Funchess made it look difficult by slipping in his cut, but the ball was right where it should be.
But he's been inaccurate in general. Very few YAC from our receivers. He almost never hits anyone in stride.
He threw a wide open third down effort to Tacopants instead of Dileo. He missed behind Funchess on a crossing route.
And I don't think we can call that a good back-shoulder throw to Funchess, who was breaking outside, was open, and required an over the front shoulder throw.
He was definitely off on some of his throws, but the receivers still made the catches. Even if three of those weren't caught, he only goes down to 10 of 17. This is good for 58.8%, which while not quite where he was against CMU and Notre Dame is still not bad.
Wether they are caught or not, they are still behind.
that they moved Taylor Lewan around. The stacked looks that they came out with and the effort put in to run the ball behind your best man... great step forward.
I take away a quarterback that hasn't lost his nerve! He gained a little bit of confidense in the 1st half and made some nice decisions in the 2nd. Taking the sack was a milestone moment.
DG played a pretty nice game.
PSU is in trouble next week!
I overall I thought it was a solid performance by the offense after the last two games. I liked Borges playcalling with the exception of one series the late 3rd/early 4th.
OL change made tangible improvements. Still room for improvement, but I'm optimistic.
Fun chess belongs as a WR. Glad to see him out there. Best 11 on the field means Funchess split wide and AJ Williams blocking. I also liked Lewan lined up all over as long as it doesn't telegraph plays.
Wow, all I hear in this thread is bitch bitch bitch bitch. Wouldn't be Michigan football with our fans bitching about a 42-13 blowout.
I for one was impressed by our offensive line. For once we had a semblence of a running game. Garnder had time to make his reads. Sure Gallon had a down game, but Funchess picked up the slack.
8 Posessions - 5 TD's. Fantastic.
13 of 17 passes were at least catchable. 14, really. That one was over Dileo's head, but he had two hands on it. Your WR's need to make plays. QB's are rearely going to be dead on for every throw.
When we weren't running into a stacked box, we got penetration and holes to run through.
Remove the sack, the bad snap fumble and the rushes from the 4th quarter clock kill drive starting at 7 minutes, and suddenly we rushed for 4.6 YPC. I'll take it up down left and right.
The three times Minnesota "stopped" us were Gardner failing to beat a guy in space for one yard on 3rd and short, the blatant PI call the refs missed (after a few first downs to flip the field), and Gardner overthrowing a wide open Dileo on 3rd and 5.
The pace of the game was weird, but there really wasn't anything to complain about. The creative stuff also worked out quite nicely (moving Funchess outside and lining Lewan up all over the field to spark the run game).
No turnovers and a good QB-C exchange. Huge step up over the previous two weeks. Helluva game Funchess!
Was quite predictable. When lewan and schofield lined up on the same side they ran it that way pretty much every time (I can only think of one in which green ran opposite direction and went for negative yards)
so if they showed it today, you can bet the wrinkles will come later. They didn't need the wrinkles today.
The bitching after a 29 point and turnover free win is comical.
If it was a 55-3 win, they'd all say, "Well, Minny sucks hard, so that doesn't prove anything." Iowa's play against MSU today shows that they're a damn good (for Iowa) team, and Minny was 4-1 with some solid wins. This was an EXCELLENT 29 point win.
Georgia just needed OT to beat Tennessee! Georgia is #6 and Tennessee sucks worse than Minny by far.
was the same one that hung 43 on SJSU & didn't play VS Iowa. You may already know that but I think it should be mentioned because if he had played VS the Hawkeyes, I suspect the game would have at least been much more competitive.
- Opposition seems to be zeroing in on Gallon after reviewing tape of prior games. Like that Funchess is opening up a second target that opposition needs to defend. Think Butt will be the secret weapon at that point.
- No turnovers
- OL seemed to pass protect reasonably well. After watching Ohio run thru Northwestern's OL rushing 3 time and time again gives me some hope we are better than that.
Would like see improved...
- Green seems to lack ferocity in his runs. I realize he's a big body but would like to get the appearance that he's fighting harder. Perhaps its just another year in the weight room to get rocked up so he feels like he can run thru more defenders.
- Chesson had one catch at his belt after jumping up for it. Would like to see him catch it "rebound style" with arms extended to use his height advantage over the defenders. Maybe a couple of pickup games at CCRB 8-)
I think it can be safely said that Devin Gardner will be around next year. He shows potential and isn't half as bad as the announcers said all through the third quarter, but he is going to need another year of experience at QB before he has a high enough profile to get a fair look in an NFL camp.
Can Devin Gardner become the first football player to graduate with a PhD during the same school year in which he is eligible?
The UFRs will be really interesting for this game. Until then, I went by the play-by-play data to chart Michigan's production on 1st down, and their production on 3rd down.
1st down because I keep hearing how important it is to get production on 1st down so the QB isn't digging out of a hole; 3rd down because moving the chains is the key to this game.
Michigan 1st Down Situations
Michigan 3rd Down Situations
Again, the UFR will provide far greater detail and context.
1st Down -- A bit of feast-or-famine going on ... still, only 3 for negative yards.
3rd Down -- 10 for 13 is a nice rate. Seeing Gardner for some but not most is a good sign. Funchess' name pops up with a lot of double-digit gains. :-)
Edit - in browsing around other box scores I see Oregon held Colorado to 0 for 15 on 3rd downs. Ouch.
I thought we were pretty darn successful on offense. Gardner was a half yard short on the QB draw in the 1st half too.
I think a 1st down stat should be developed- something like 1st down "conversion" %: the % of 1st &10 plays that get 4+ yards.
Someone must have already said this, but I thought Gardner did especially well considering that so many of his passes were 3rd and long. He may have had better accuracy and better numbers with more early down success and early down throws.
Placing Lewan at TE worke well in the 3rd QTR and for the first time this season our OL was dominating the LOS! The other times the OL still looked inconsistent but maybe this new alignment will help the running game! Hopefully, Kalis injury is not too bad and he can play next week.