when you added "Period" that's when I became convinced. QUESTION MARK?
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when you added "Period" that's when I became convinced. QUESTION MARK?
The refs were bad, but they couldnt box out for us.
Quit whining. The refs weren't great, but they played better than us. Rebound and hit FTs and we win this.We fucking didn't.
Dude. I get the sentiment but they really didn't play better than us.
3 baskets...you dont think having 10 more calls go louisville's way doesnt effect the outcome...
Hell, 1 call doesnt get blown (Burke block) and i think we have a decent chance at winning this, 2 calls (Burke block, Timmy Goaltend) and I think we win this game.
Yes, Louisville took adavantage..but fuck them.
Can't bash a buckeye fan who actually posts something constructive. Now get off my lawn!!!
F-you, c-sucker. The only point I will concede is that L took full advantage of their fortuitous officiating. Don't fucking point out the foul differential. Louisville just keeps fouling and knows the refs won't take their players out of the game in the end. Someone convince me Mitch's fourth foul and UL's 11 not getting his fourth didn't profoundly affect the game.
Hope Craft was nice and comfy on his couch watching Michigan tonight......
Oh and fuck off suckeye
That's why Burke was POY in everything including banging your mom and your fat wife.
The problem with that is that Aaron Kraft isn't half the point guard Trey Burke is. Rosy cheeks is sitting at home
My MSU alum sister just texted me "the refs were for Louisville too!"
"The better team won" and "the refs were fucking pieces of dog shit that aren't worthy to referee a game of fucking Candy Land" are not mutually exclusive.
The refs did screw us over a couple of times. That is true...but free throws have hurt us all season, and it seems fitting that the missed free throws costed us the game today. That's my opinion. Either way, this was a great season, and I'm already getting pumped about this fall. It's all about football from here on out.
better team won didn't change outcome of game yadda yadda bullshit I know it all and I accept it.
But watch this gif over and over if you need any evidence the refs were hilariously terrible tonight:
if this isn't the biggest bag over the head, punch in the face, GODDAMNIT! Ahhhhhh, hey! If any of you are looking for any last minute gift ideas I'd like this three refs brought right here from their happy holiday slumber over on Melody Lane with a big bow on them and I'd look them in the face and tell them what a brainless, dickless, hopeless....ahhhh, what's the point. Go Blue. Goodnight.
I didn't think anything could make me laugh again tonight. Thank you
If I was one of the players in a presser asked about the refs I would say the refs weren't the reason we lost the game, but you know what kind of job they did.
Horrible officiating. Hell I'll let the goaltending, the 2 horrible fouls on Burke, and the fourth foul that could've been called on Hancock go. Just call the damn over the back on Behanan! Dude ran from the free throw line and jumped on top of Burke's neck for crying out loud. Not only do we keep possession only down 4 with plenty of time left, we're at the free throw line to cut it to a 1 possession game. The game was essentially OVER once Louisville got the ball back then. Just a shitty way to end such a great game.
above Michigan to blame the refs. Better team won tonight. The program is moving in the right direction, lets think about that and give Louisville their due, they won a hard fought game and overcame some bigtime adversity.
Since when are you allowed to continuously hand check the ball handler? Louisville was mugging Burke the entire 2nd half and the 3 blind mice let it go pretty much the entire time. I"m sure Pitino told them to do it at halftime because one he saw what a bunch of dimwits he was dealing with he knew they could get away with it.
I agree we didn't make enough free throws but the refs were too one-sided. Unfortunately I've seen that at all levels of basketball from 3rd grade to the NBA. Can't believe it was so one-sided in an NCAA Championship game though.
Michigan outplayed Louisville by a slight margin today but the refs gave Louisville an edge. You take out the egregious bad calls and non calls (by the way, was Louisville playing football inside at the end?) and Michigan wins.
But that's college basketball for you. Sometimes it's just luck that makes the difference - assuming the difference in calls was just luck. Michigan was lucky to make it past Kansas and today luck turned against them.
It was a great year and the team should have nothing but pride in their play this year.
You know why we lost? Louisville keyed in on Spike during the second half and forced the team into some tough decisions. We failed to do the same to Hancock. Yeah we got shafted on some calls. That's basketball.
I don't know who it was, but early this season when we were undefeated, someone posted on a game thread that our failure to hit free throws would cost us a game. He got negged to hell. Now, that's not the reason we lost the game, but it didn't help matters.
Hell of a season, boys. Time for some football.
Guys... let's just lose with class.... you're all making our rival fanbases rejoice in schadenfreude and acting like Cuse fans after our game vs them. We lost, it's over, complaining ain't changing a thing.
If there's any point where a fanbase can pout and whine, it's after a loss in a championship game. Just let it be.
Yeah, ok... go back and read the post-Cuse thread about some guy talking about his Cuse fan friend complaining about refs. The same people making fun of Cuse fans are now up in arms about the reffing. Some people need to stick to their convictions when things go south for a change. Every time a rival fanbase complains about reffing, there's an endless stream of people saying "don't let refs decide it" "they're biased" "they're watching the game with x colored goggles." But invariably, after a loss, everyone keys in on one or two plays that "screwed michigan over."
Before negging me, take a minute to think about who's actually being rational. This is Michigan, I'd like to think we have rational fans.
Rational fans vent, sometimes nonsensically. Irrational fans pretend everything is sunshine and rainbows and/or that all situations require stoicism. And I don't believe you'll find me laughing at Syracuse fans on whatever post you're talking about. There's a time to tell everyone to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and wipe the snot from their nose. And then there are times to just back off and let people be. This time would be the latter. Tomorrow, you have my blessing to chastise the whiners.
I agree. From the very first two minutes of the game the refs missed a clear goaltending call against Louisville. But so what. Louisville played excellent, and the two teams put together a legendary game. We had plenty of chances to win it. Hats off to Louisville. They played a hell of a game.
He was no help in the second half
He may have played him too much in the first half. He may have been the hot hand, but the complete lack of penetration sans Burke completely negated McGary.
I think I'm misunderstanding your post but I'll respond anyway. Did you miss the grabbing and hand checking that Trey (and everyone else for that matter) had to fight through in order to get to the basket? That is the reason why there was a lack of penetration.
Louisville is not the better team. We shot 70+% from the line (which is fine). I dare anyone to name 3 horrible fucking game changing calls that didn't go Loiusville's way. We got hosed and the only consistent thing was Michigan was getting absolutely fucked by bad calls.
I don't care what people say or the pundants acknowledge... Michigan should have won this damn game and deserved to win this game. We were the better team, played better, and rose above the officiating the best we could. People say you can't blame officiating, in this case you'd be an idiot if you didn't. First time in a long time that I could say that the refs cost us the game. The style of officiating along with the completely blown calls! I'm sick, and Belein should address it... When the announcers address you, you know that it's obvious.
fuck Pitino. He is a punk that knocked up a chick in the back of a resturant and paid her to have an abortion. Yeah, he is a swell dude....
The refs didn't beat us Louisville did but the refs definitely have their fingerprints all over this game. Worst Michigan called game since we played Nebraska in the Alamo bowl game in 2005.
I love punishment so I turned on ESPN. Why is Michigan so hated by those guys? Wow. Jay Bilas said we shouldn't even be talking about the Burke block because Bohannan, screw spelling, was "getting mauled" on every play.
Do you guys have any idea of the ammount of pleasure you're giving Sparty and Buckeye fans right now? I know, I visit spartantailgate for a pick-me-up every time they play Wisconsin. Just let it go!!! Complaining won't change anything.
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But Louisville just beat MIchigan tonight, there's nothing more to be said. They were hitting some crazy shots in the 2nd half and could seemingly not miss at all.
The refs were all around awful tonight. The Burke block was I think the only one that had any meaningful influence on the outcome...because it was so blatantly obvious to everyone except the refs, and who knows what happens with momentum if that's called the right way.
Did you forget the blatant goaltend?
Thank you, or the BS foul on Trey.....twice!!!!
or the phantom foul that should have been Hancock's 4th. but lets give it to some random scrub for his first.
allowed Hancock to still be in the game after he committed another foul. Not having their best shooter on the court down the stretch would have made a difference.
Basically another poster put it perfectly, Michigan's defense and rebounding in in the last 23 minutes of the game were the biggest problem, but that doesn't excuse the terrible job the officials did tonight. Unfortunately for Michigan most of the blatently obvious missed calls didn't work in their favor, and a couple of them had a significant impact.
I don't see anybody mention it yet, but how about the one with Mitch in the first half when he rebounded the ball, and was clearly undercut. Even the announcers pointed that one out.
UM didn't play well enough in the last 23 minutes, but the anger towards the officials is perfectly warrented given how ridiculous the missed calls were. At the very least these refs should not be given the assignment in any future championship games.
Or how about 2 rotten jump balls that very easily could have been fouls?
The only oother thing that sucked was Hancock not getting the 4th when he should have...but again, those things happen. Refs call fouls on the wrong player all. the. time. It's only magnified here because of how it would have changed the complexion of the game.
All that stuff you say sucked (missed goaltend, questionable contact not called fouls), but it's part of a basketball game, especially in this year's tourney...calls seem random, I agree Michigan got the short end of teh stick more times than not, but don't forget that Louisville was in foul trouble early in the 2nd half. The game would be much closer if Michigan hits its free throws. How many times did Burke, Hardaway, anf whoever else go to the line and only make 1 of 2? Those misses added up, especially compared to how efficient Louisville was at the line.
To win a championship, you need to be really effing good, and you need luck to go your way. Michigan was really effing good tonight, but Louisville was both better and luckier.
Refs call the wrong player for a foul all the time?
Missed goaltend (and off the glass/not based on trajectory) is part of basketball?
Ok maybe not ALL the time, but it happens when two guys are involved on a play and the ref calls the wrong one with a foul. Yeah, it happens. It sucks because it was kind of important to M tonight. But oh well...
No, missed goaltending is not part of basketball, but I didn't imply that. Missed calls are part of the game. Every sport, really. Refs are human. Clearly tonight, they weren't ready for the moment. It's not like they didn't call any fouls on Louisville.
that foul on a guy who wasn't even involved in the play, not the shotblocker or Hancock. It wasn't like there was two guys making contact at the same time, Hancock was the only guy that even made any contact with Morgan on that play.
And your missing the point when you say it is not like they didn't call other fouls on Louisville, it was not the number, it was how blatently obvious the ones that were missed were, and how significant the ones that hurt Michigan were. Also to put it bluntly the reason Louisville was called for more fouls, is because they were making contact almost every time down the court in the second half.
Whatever the case may be this officiating crew has no business ever doing a Final Four game again, best of the best my ass.