I'm sorry but I needed this.
in re: is GRIII on a tear
I'm sorry but I needed this.
I never blame a loss on the refs but they played WAY too big a part in that loss. Giving Hancock's fourth foul to Harrell. Calling Burke's superman block a foul. Calling a foul on Burke in the first for getting bumped by Hancock before he even left the ground to shoot. Letting THJ get raped on about 3 layup attempts. Calling a FUCKING WARNING on a guy for touching the inbounder before he threw the ball in. What is this? The CYO league??? You can't give a warning for something involving contact!! Missing the most obvious goaltend I've ever seen!!! Who knows what else I'm missing. Those all either played a roll in the first half comeback or our lack of comeback in the 2nd. I have never seen a worse performance by a set of officials, let alone one chosen for a championship game.
in first half but gets called for travelling, Horford gets called for held ball in 1st half, McGary 2nd foul clean block
Both GRIII and Burke fouled on made jump shots (GR III's being blatantly obvious) to add to the list.
They couldn't let this Kevin Ware story go to waste. Louisville was good enough on their own, I don't know how refs get by with these performances.
I don't care what people say or the pundants acknowledge... Michigan should have won this damn game and deserved to win this game. We were the better team, played better, and rose above the officiating the best we could. People say you can't blame officiating, in this case you'd be an idiot if you didn't. First time in a long time that I could say that the refs cost us the game. The style of officiating along with the completely blown calls! I'm sick, and Belein should address it... When the announcers address you, you know that it's obvious.
The announcers noted at least 5 calls that were terrible. Two of them fouls on the player of the year. Unbelievable.
I agree. Lets not let this die. It was outright robbery, plain and simple. All the blown calls were at very critical junctures, and against (and one case decidedly NOT against) key players. I'm just so angry and disappointed that this is what we have to accept.
Lets get official. Start writing some letters, congressmen, etc...
edit: huh, I was replying to MGoRusty, but whatev.
I'm still pos'ing this shit!
Awful awful officiating on both ends of the floor. We got screwed more than Louisville, and as mentioned above the calls on us really stymied any chance of a comeback. I don't think we could have played any better on offense but if we could have made at least a couple defensive stops/rebounds when it mattered this could have been a different game too. But the officiating.... WHAT THE FUCK REFS
dtermined the outcome of the came. You knew it was gonna be a bad night when they miss a very easy goal tend in the first two minutes of the game. Just horrendous.
Shut this down guys, Its not worth it.
Great team effort.
I'm not going to complain about the refs in the sense that they influenced the outcome. I'm going to complain about them because they deprived college basketball fans of a well-officated game and at times just made a mockery of the competition.
EDIT: Sorry for the double post.
That's the saddest thing. Those are two really fun teams who play an attractive style of basketball. Competently and fairly officiated, it would have been just a tremendous game. I'm not sure we win (I tend to think it goes OT), but it would have been a much more fun experience.
This is just bitter. Well not entirely bitter, as I loved this team, but that would have been an awesome, awesome game with competent officials.
This is a great point, actually. I could complain until the sun comes up about the officiating, but nobody wants to hear that. If the game played out like the first half did and we lost? That'd be ok, that was one of the best sporting spectacles I've ever witnessed. The second half was a crime to the sport, the team, and the fans. I am absolutely livid about the officiating in a way that I never have been before.
Both teams played great and it was such an entertaining game. I just wished the refs didnt decide to decide the outcome. My biggest issues were the missed goal tend and the Burke block. Hancock should have been fouled out but if those two calls go the proper way it's tied in the last minute and it would be an epic finish. I'm so proud of this team tho and I couldn't thank them enough for how fun this run was to watch. Hell it even got webber to a game
Yeah, the reffing blew Kentucky derby horse balls and still has me seething mad. Buy overplaying Spike in the 2nd half, pathetic defense by Timmy, and everything inexplicably dropping for Louisville didn't help either. Fuck slimeball Pitino. Whoop de shit for Ware. Go Blue and thanks Trey.
So proud of this team. They played their butts off all season and had an unforgettable run in the tournament.
That being said, I can't get over the officiating. Between the missed goaltend, the inexplicable foul on Burke on what was the cleanest block I've ever seen, the two times Hancock jumped into the defender and got 6 free throws, the over the back missed at the end which forced Levert out of bounds, etc, etc. It was an abomination of an officiating job.
I love these kids - McGary, Hardaway, Robinson, Spike, Stauskus, Morgan, Horford, and especially Trey deserve all the credit in the world and deserve better than what they got today.
But it was still quite possibly the worst officiated basketball game at any level in at least 10 years. Those 3 bozos should do college basketball a favor and all retire tomorrow morning.
If any of them can watch the tape of that game and still think they should be a basketball ref, then they clearly don't take much pride in their work.
The sad thing is, there are probably a ton of guys busting their ass in obscurity somewhere who will never get a chance while these clowns are allowed to go out there and make fools of themselves in the national title game.
ways. Congrats Louisville. Tough to lose a hard fought game
I hate to be this guy but the refs sucked this whole tournament. The worse part is nothing will done about it.
This game was quantitatively and qualitatively worse by many degrees, not just from other games in this tournament but from almost every sporting event I've seen. I can think of an NFL game and a college football game off the top of my head that I watched which had refs who called an equally imcompetent game, but this is easily top five. These were bush league refs calling the NCAA championship game. Every game has calls that are questionable; this had call after call which were clear to everyone but those paid to make them.
a tale of two halves. They let a bunch of physical play go early and then called a bunch of nonsense in the second half, many of them bad calls. I give basketball players credit for having to adjust to different levels of calls on the fly as the refs see fit.
Were pile of crap from the start on the no goaltending call.
It was well executed in the first half in terms of Michigan's gameplan, but the second half Louisville adjusted and Michigan didn't know how to find open looks on offense, especially behind the perimeter, and they also started getting butterfingers when it came to rebounding
Really the thing that pisses me off the most is not giving that foul to Hancock. He hit a dagger 3 pointer after that.
I mean the goal tend, shit call on Burke, calling LeVert out of bounds were absolute shit too, but my god HE HAD 5 FOULS.
But the NCAA got their feel good story of Ware so I guess that's what they were after.
LeVert was out of bounds though. It was pretty clear.
He was pushed.
...great game, awful officiating (cleanest block i have ever seen), but better team won...Pitino coached a better game.. Love Burke, love this team, love Coach B...glad to be relevant again.
EDIT: from downvotes throughout this thread, I guess Syracuse fan it is :)
figure Lville is the better team? I'd love to read your reasoning on a 6 point loss where the refs had 3 for sure blown calls not even counting the Hancock bullshit. Go ahead. Humor me.
But we our chances. Louisville played really well.
..but they were at least a +15 point difference in this game in favor of louisville.
I will give Louisville credit for taking advantage of the opportunities given to them, and good for them for doing so.
Anyone trying to tell me that an equally officated game Louisville would of won, I'll call BS.
Let's not get carried away.
I would only count as gimmes:
1. Goal Tending - 2points
2. Burke foul on HandCock's three - 2/3 free throws - 2points
3. Burke Block - 2 points
6 points that is more than fair accounting for what went down. Other problematic calls had an obvious impact that can't be accounted for in points.
1. Trey Burke should not have been in foul trouble. (goes with 2 above and 3 above)
2. HanDCock should have been in foul trouble with 4th (hit another 3 at the end after receiving what should have been his fifth, however concede he would have played differently with 4 and also nothing to say another player doesn't hit that shot.
3. McGary got blocked very hard in the back lost the ball afterwards.
None of those add up to a certain Michigan win, but they all add up to a a certainty that we would lose.
I don't normally bitch about the refs, because it is what it is in college basketball, where it is frustrating is that you expect to have the best of the best out there in the NC game. I mean for me the most frustrating was watching the Louisville pressure which was basically one constant foul and nothing called.
remind me again how many player of the year awards Kraft has won? Because I think Burke has collected a few
You goto Ohio and will never go anywhere in life
Losing to Wichita state>making national championship
Being an accountant or whatever>nba lottery pick
Having to live in fucking Columbus>not living in Columbus.
The most frustrating thing was I honestly believe that if Michigan plays these guys 10 times, we win 6 or 7. Louisville needed a lot to go right for them tonight, including some very fortuitous calls.
Absolutely. I don't truly believe Louisville is better than us (that's not homerism, it's truly what I think). We win a multi-game series against them regardless of refs. Alas, the other way around, I think we absolutely lose a best-of series against Kansas. The excitement and drama of the tourney is that it's not about who's the better team, but who's better on that night, whether that "better" is 3rd party assisted or not.
But Michigan missed a lot of easy shots and did not do a good job hitting FT! I think if they had got these easy baskets they would have won or it would have been decided at the buzzer!
Quit whining. The refs weren't great, but they played better than us. Rebound and hit FTs and we win this.We fucking didn't.
Michigan hit the exact same number of FTs as Louisville without only 2 more attempts. I know people like to bitch about missing FTs, but against IU they hit 53% of their FTs; this game, around 75%. So they lost, but it wasn't because of the charity stripe.
So we're gonna be like all the teams fans we beat on the way to the National Championship game? If Louisville lost their fans would be complaining about the refs. The officiating sucked, but it was bad all the way around!
"Michigan has won a number of different ways. Lets see what they do if we hamstring their 2 best players, call the game inconsistently and ignore critical calls."
Louisville is a very good time but spare me the bullshit about "the better team won tonight". This UM team was phenominal and is worthy of a champion.
I will criticize Hardaway, though. He has shot terribly the last few games and I find it very frustrating that he took the most shots tonight.
The refs were bad, but they couldnt box out for us.
Defend the perimeter better and we win the game.
YAAAAAAWN... losing fans complaining about the refs in basketball... I thought we were a touch better than that here. Refs were not good for us, but aside from the clear Burke block, down the stretch they did try to even things up a bit with tons of calls to get us to the line.
End of day, the better team won. Only Burke and Albrecht showed up. McGary had an off game, Hardaway was off (as usual), Stauskas and Lavert non-existent, and GR3 had his usual decent, but not spectacular game.
Louisville on the other hand, only had Russ Smith off his game. Siva had a huge game and executed perfectly, the big center made every ridiculous baby hook, their role playing forward had a monster night with 12 boards and 18 points, Hancock was his usual icy self making huge 3s and free throws, and flat out, Pitino coached a great game plan.
Better team won. Period. THANK YOU BOYS FOR A GREAT SEASON!!!! Thank you Coach Beilein. We far exceeded expectations. Can't wait for next year.
YAAAAAAAAWN. Someone thinks he's better than everyone else because he doesn't complain about the refs.
Of course, Hancock was his "icy self" even though he should have fouled out about 8 minutes before the game ended. But yes, please keep acting like you are a better person than everyone even if the facts don't agree with it.