Someone has to do it...Obviously not our best effort. This one is on the offense. The defense had horrible breakdowns BUT overall enough stops to win imho. The offense however did not produce. What matters though is what we do from here on out. We've got a tough stretch starting with Iowa, Penn State and Illinois coming up. We need to get over this fast...Oh and I hope this thread doesn't turn into an anti RRod rant.
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Nope...we have a banhammer....mods can we up the points to post, or is that too extream?
Edit: screw extream....man battle stations!
Just wished I could have seen us beat sparty at home once before I graduated.
I would have imagined that most people in your class would have been more disappointed to have never beaten OSU, period. Oh well, hopefully that ignominy will end this year! We will be back and we will be Champions again.
As discouraging as this was, there is still a chance we could beat osu. Plus, other classes have lost 4 games to osu.
Losing to msu 3 out of 4 times is pathetic and no class has done that since the 60's. We don't deserve that (seriously did I kill someone in a past life or something? wtf)
But they've been deleted. Because apparently it's easier than keeping out the trolls.
Well, we've been asking for Robinson to be more aggressive. I think we saw today what happens with this defense being more aggressive with those 2 long TD runs by MSU. I'm looking forward to seeing how poorly Ezeh did in the UFR.
yeah ezeh continues to blow my mind how bad he is. not only missed assignments and poor reads, but also tackling. i like the fact that gerg was aggressive but it really just exploits our terrible secondary
I'm more upset that we lost to MSU and D'antonio and the rest of the crew from "loudest talkers from no accomplishmentsville" than the fact that M lost. I'm going to get too worried until I see how next week goes...
I'm happy to see that this board is completely under control after a tough day like today.
My props to all the mods and the level headers who have been posting.
There is no way to sugar coat it, this game blew. But there were certainly some moments that, had they gone the other way, could have given us a chance to win.
In the end though, we were not the better team on the field. Bottom line, we have to move on and get ready for Iowa.
The offense was not clicking today. But any game that it does we will have a chance to win. Here's to getting it clicking at home next week!
Keep the faith! This is not 2009! I will hold true to that opinion until when/if I am proven wrong when the clocks read 0:00 against OSU.
We do need to get better in a number of areas. This hurt, but I'll take it if we learn from it and get a W on Nov 27.
This is the same team that went 5-0, except our Offense let us down this time..That is the only difference, I actually thought our D played better but a lose is a lose...on to Iowa, no one really expected us to go undefeated.
There have been perfectly reasonable, non-"UNACCEPTABLE fire GERG aarrggh" posts deleted after this game (full disclosure, mine was one). It's one thing to delete those, another IMO to delete reasonable posts because of some persons idea of what is too much volume or not. Sorry, I disagree with that. People can wade though the posts they think are relevant or non relevant,
Time to move on guys. The L is a L no matter how much we all want to rant about it. Let's look foward to Iowa.
I'm curious why we didn't run denard in the red zone on those two drives. He's an amazing player I felt like he got put in situations he shouldn't have been in. Looked like we could run the ball well. We can not expect Denard to throw all day. I felt like we could have been more balances and weren't.
Very well said.
And, when it comes down to it, we expected at the beginning of the year that there were going to be days like today. It sucks that we had one of those days for this game though.
Denard is a first-year starter. Hopefully he'll learn from his mistakes and the team will bounce back. I'm confident that will happen.
It comes down to this - with the turnovers we had, we would have lost to any team in a game like that.
IIRC, we had the 3 INT's. Those - literally - were the difference in the score.
2 of our INT's occurred deep in the redzone on drives that presumably would have been TDs. That's 14 points right there we missed out on. And 1 of them led to an MSU touchdown. That's a 21 point swing. Take away the turnovers and we win.
So the takeaway from this is that while the loss sucks - we lost today due to factors that are fixable. It's not like we lost b/c of a talent deficiency.
As you said...echoing RR....this team can't play average and win. We played average, we didn't win. That's the bottom line.
except there were a couple of big time drops by receivers. I agree, though, that times where I expected Denard to just run for 5-10 yards, they were passing, and I don't think it was the right decision. I'm not angry, but I'm not numb, and it's the first time in three years. That simple fact, for me, makes this whole year a win so far.
The play calling seemed out of rhythm if that makes any sense? Like we got away from our strengths. I am curious to see Brian's take on what adjustments if any MSU made after drive 1 because we never ran the ball that well consistently again.
Not scoring on that first drive when we clearly had their defense back on their heels was defeating. MSU playing from behind right away with their defense lacking confidence would have changed the dynamic and put more pressure on their offense. That was a big turn. Even though early in the game.
Same as any other game, our offense has to protect our defense by jumping on teams and scaring them into feeling like they have to score. When the opposition is in the lead or within 3 points with the ball, that advantage is nullified.
The defense was plenty good enough to win today, and the offense as the strength of our team just didn't make enough plays.
I didn't particularly like the playcalling on offense today. I felt like Denard was not given enough opportunities to run in the redzone, when the passing game was obviously off in that area. Also felt like we got away from a lot of the screen passes that seem to usually be good for 5-10 yards most of the time and took too many chances throwing downfield. This game reminded me of last season - turnovers just killed us. I think we'll learn and bounce back next week against Iowa, but I think we need to stick with what worked in the first 5 games, and not change the gameplan so much to exploit percieved weaknesses, i.e. the MSU secondary.
It was the turnovers deep that were the difference. Times when Denard would have run in the past, he threw into coverage instead. He's a sophomore and these days happen. The breaks didn't go our way, and we knew that we would need a lot of breaks this year to overcome our defense. Sparty made the big play, and we didn't. It isn't the end of the world. We were a couple plays from having a chance to win this game.
I think the thing that makes me the most upset is punting with 6 min to go. Just flat out giving up. Maybe i'm missing something but to give up like that against michigan state of all teams is unacceptable (UNACCEPTABLE ARGGGGG! etc)
I was also very ANGAR at that, as were about 100% of the students around me. It was then that we knew it was an inevitability. It took all the wind out of the fans, like a huge dong punch saying "we'll save you the trouble and just admit it: we're gonna lose". That hurt a lot.
EDIT: RR said in his presser that he was trying to change this play to go for it, and if he had to do it over again and go for it, he would.
that's good to know at least, calms the angar a bit. thanks for the update
I just don't understand that logic. The head coach wants to go for it on 4th down and the punt team goes out on the field and punts the ball. Who is in charge? How do we allow such a breakdown in communication to occur like this? How can we not change the play, if that is what the head coach wanted? It doesn't make me feel better that Coach said that in the press conference. It make me feel worse because we have such a significant coaching communication issue on the sidelines, this late in the season. Did it cost us the game, no. Is it an indicator of something going on that could come along and bite our ass later, maybe... Let's hope the coaches get this "fixable" issue corrected ASAP....
Painful loss but its not the end of the world. I have faith that this team will bounce back and win a few more games this season. Iowa will be tough but we will get to see what kind of heart this team has. Go blue!
All I can say that this was the hardest time I've ever had trying to muster up enough restraint to not retaliate to all the Spartan fans on the way back home from the stadium. I've never had so many evil things go through my head before, but the thought of jail time always deters me from bringing them to fruition.
This will be a tough loss to get over, but in time, the pain will fade, and the best medicine is more winning. The thing I keep thinking about is how we're still one more win away from a bowl, and we have 6 chances to get that win. The odds are still in our favor to finish strong, especially given how PSU and Purdue have been playing thus far. It's just too bad we don't get Minnesota as well.
is what separates you from being a Spartan
And my IQ, and the degree on my wall, and my ability to resolve issues/celebrate without a lighter.
the offense was off .....and we will never be able to win a game against a quality team if we only score 17 points. Our defense is just not able to do that yet.
They got gashed for long plays and were pretty much what we knew them to be today.
Unless we play a very poor offensive team....we have to win shoot-outs.
Denard was just off today....poor throws....poor reads....poor decisions. It was bound to happen sooner or later. Lets hope he learns from it and comes back with a huge game next week.
I still love my Wolverines!
I watched some of the presser and I feel for these players. RVB was close to tears and I read Denard had possibly been crying, too. This is a team that really cares and I admire the passion. We should get behind these players 100% and move on to Iowa. Losing sucks more for them than for us.
Sparty played a great game today - congratulations to their team. As for the trolls on this board dissing us, you're just a black mark on your team and you have no understanding of what it means to be a true winner. Crawl back to EL.
that has a defense that cannot get off the field on 3rd and 15 numerous times. Denard is good, he had a bad outing, but our defense is a serious problem. call it youth, call it what you will, but there is no reason or excuse to put a defense like that on the field week in and week out. We need to spend the rest of the recruiting efforts on the defensive side of the ball. Neg away, but there is talent on this team and if Greg Robinson can't do anything with this talent then RR needs to send him on his way, or he could be sent packing before the OSU game, and thats a real possibility!
1) We were -3 in turnovers, and they were TERRIBLE turnovers.
2) Their defensive line completely owned us for three quarters.
The defense is the whipping boy, and fine, it is not as good. But this game turned on those two fundamental issues. We can't expect our defense to keep things close if the offense gives the ball away, especially at the end of scoring drives.
I am just feeling for Denard right now. I really believe that he will bounce back and use this as a learning experience; I just know it must be a difficult time right now.
I just want to say what do people expect, that we were going undefeated this year. Denard was bound to make some mistakes, he is a sophomore and was nearly perfect for the year. We are 5-1, not 1-5. I like that our D mades some stops, and they played hard and GERG made some good calls. Relax everyone, I hate losing to MSU too, but this team is getting better. And one last thing, We got Dee.
Exactly; the team is off to a great start and this is only one loss. MSU has a very good team and no one really expected an undefeated season.
Are you being bombarded with "GO GREEN! GO WHITE!"
Then don't tell people not to be pissed. There is NOTHING worse than this
Who said not to be upset, be upset, I am, but just look at the bright side. If you think there is nothing worse than this, I am not sure what to tell you. Some people are about to jump off a cliff. Sparty is a good team and they played well.
Ask Phil Brabbs if there's nothing worse.
Then don't get excited when we win or when Dee Hart signs or anything. Because it's not like something important, like beating cancer. That comparison is such bullshit.
Those that are "Eh, just one loss" (even though that doesn't take into account that it was one winnable loss...with some no chance to win still coming), are all out of State and no where near any Sparties. Tell thatto the recruits of Detroit.
- The ints killed us, obviously.
- MSU had a better D than I gave them credit for. You don't intercept balls without being in position to make those plays.
- The offense's mistakes were either uncharacteristic of their skill level (ints and drops) or indicative of their skill level. We won't know which is the case until after a few more B10 games. Gotta protect the ball and gotta catch it.
- I didn't like running with Vincent Smith so much. I had been a huge proponent of his previously, but I'm starting to flip to Brian's side on this one. I would have loved to see more plays with Hopkins to try to pick up an extra yard here and there.
- 4th and 1? GO FOR IT.
- D still needs a ton of work on tackling. Also, it should be the easiest sell in the world to bring in linebackers and DBs. "Come to Michigan. Play on day 1."
- Congrats to Sparty. They played as well as they needed to on both sides of the ball. They've got a good team this year, and with their schedule they could really make a move.
- I still love Denard with the fire of a thousand suns.
- Anyway, I'm frustrated, hungry, and ready to decompress a bit. I look forward to the next few games. Iowa could be a close game if we can execute better, and we really should be Illinois, Purdue, and Penn State if we're on our game.
I love the little guy, but I'm really miffed at why RR keeps using him on 3rd and short situations. It absolutely makes no sense. Also, I liked what I saw from Hopkins today and don't understand why he didn't get more attempts.
Yup. I have no problem using him on 1st and 10 or 2nd and 6 or something, but Hopkins (or Shaw or Cox) give us a better chance to pick up short yardage first downs, IME. Smith is a warrior, and I wouldn't trade him for the world, but Mike Hart he is not. He's definitely better in some situations than others.
I thought it odd that Shaw didn't play more. Perhaps the injury wasn't as healed as we thought?
Agreed that the offense wasn't clicking after the ints. It seemed to have made Denard think twice the whole game. When the offense didn't play up to par, I think this put too much pressure on the defense.
This team is going to get better and mature. They won't press as much when we get behind. I felt we gave this game away more than State earned it. As we mature and get better players, this team is going to be dangerous.
I largely agree. I don't think that Vincent Smith was that bad - yeah, he's not a gamebreaker, but I trust the coaching staff thought he was the best option. I was surprised by the conservative playcalling, but it also felt like UM tried to beat MSU throwing the ball way too early.
The first two INTs seemed far more a product of bad Denard throws than anything by MSU. That first one in particular, Roundtree had nobody in front of him in the endzone - Denard just threw it behind him.
Still, credit to MSU for winning. Bring on Iowa.
The first INT was Roundtree's fault, not Denards. The receiver is supposed to come towards the QB in that situation. Instead, Roundtree drifted back towards the corner and let the DB cut in front. There's nothing that frustrates me more about WRs than when they get passive and wait for the ball to get to them. Go get the ball, make the DB come through you to get to it.
I thought state made a mistake kicking off to start the game, because we could jump ahead and put some pressure on them. Instead, with the Int and settling for the FG, state got a huge surge of confidence and the momentum swung their way.
me off is my friends and family calling for RR's job already. When I said uneducated fans piss me off, she responded with " I would not call myself an uneducated fan seeing that I have had season tickets for 30 years and yes Rich Rod must go" wtf. I responded with..It is not all RR fault..if any coach came in without any Defensive talent we would be in trouble..You can't be excited for our offense at the same time calling for RR head.I proceeded to follow it up with the decimated defense diaries. But I doubt anyone who can turn that fast will change their opinion.
than what the hell happened today?
the knock on richrod is he couldnt get in done in the big10. we've beaten up the patsies, but have not done much against teams not named indiana. the jury, imo, is still out about that "prolific offense" of yours when it comes to real competition. lets see where we stand against psu, osu, iowa, and wisc.
is mediocre at best "dude".
Averaging six yards a play. The offense was fine, other than the turnovers, which were two execution errors by our six game starting quarterback and a poor decision by same.
into the game sparty was at best # 4 d in the conference behind osu, psu, iowa and maybe even wisc. greg jones was supposedly no better than manti te'o and we were supposed to be able to pass over their secondary. despite this we still only put up 17 pts.
now its true we could have underestimated their d but its equally true our o isnt what it seems like it was against the powerhouses of uconn, nd, umass, bowling green and indiana.
I repeat: 6 yards a play without any really big ones. There were a couple mistakes in the red zone by the guy who has been playing out of his mind so far.
Except for that iceberg thing.
I know Brian loves his yardage, but last I checked points win the game.
some people just don't get it.
I'm not saying that RR needs to be fired, but to give him a pass for the talent on the defense is silly. He's been the coach for three years, and his recruits are now juniors.
THIS is the defense he has recruited.
Maybe RR told Robinson to NOT be a accurate? Maybe RR told his receivers to NOT catch the ball? Maybe GERG told his players to tackle by the face mask? Maybe GERG told his players to miss tackles and NOT wrap up?
The players lost this one by not executing. It's all teachable though. Learn and let's get ready for Iowa!
Not being snarky, you are right. But we've been teaching it for two years now and there is literally no sign that tacking is improving. A mediocre player can in fact be taught to tackle correctly. Sigh. I don't know, I'm just frustrated like everyone. I'm struggling with the whole lack of talent/experience thing vs correct fundamentals. Can't mediocre players still tackle properly and do their assignments properly?
Watched the game with alums in the Bay Area - our offense just wasn't very sharp today - denard's poor passes, mediocre production from the RBs, and all the dropped passes were all uncharacteristic.
It's going to be painful to hear all the psychotic and obnoxious rants from the Spartys after this loss..... But I still have faith that Denard will bounce back and deliver a few more thrilling wins for us this year though.
did you watch in berkeley at bobby g's?
it's just painful when you know that you're offense:
(1) needs to put up 35+ to win
(2) is totally able to move the ball, BUT
(3) continually shoots self in foot.
our D had it's standardly pathetic display of slow reaction time and poor tackling. In other words, they did just fine! in my book, if they keep opponents under 35, we have a chance to win.
they weren't in position to make those INT's, the passes were poorly thrown, properly thrown, they're catches.
Always were. Nothings changed. This is and will be a very loooooooong and painful rebuilding.
You know those moments as a kid when you are at some kind of public gathering, and like a carnival or a 4th if July celebration at a park, and there is that one overly obnoxious drunk dude saying all kinds of crude vulgarities walking around?
Your parents either have you walk really fast past the man-spectacle or close your ears or something as if to shield you from allowing this dark scene from becoming a part of your worldview? But you can't help but stare, because this is reality in front of you? Pehaps that man is even an uncle who you really looked up to. That's how i feel right now. I tried ignoring the omens of what Michigan football is and what reality is. I even yelled blatantly at my friend who said RichRod deserved to be fired because of his insistence of the 3-3-5. Telling myself, things are looking up and Denard is the symbol of hope for a better tomorrow manifested in human form. Well now it just comes crashing down. Tay Odoms even has a broken foot. Hope is hopeless. All you can do is try making facebook statuses as therapy. It's not Denard's fault though. He is human. So is your drunk uncle. It was your fault for believing a smiling sophomore could carry the expectations from an entire fan base on his shoulders.
So what do you do? What can you do? Just type "Go Blue" and find the next thing in the near-distance future to hang your hope one...Michigan against Iowa
There are three very winnable games coming up (Penn State, Illinois, Purdue). Iowa and Wisconsin are good, but still vulnerable. Even OSU is vulnerable to option QBs. Many of us predicted 8-4 this year, which is still doable. It sucks that MSU is one of the 4, but that's how it is.
Heisman is still possible too; we just need to get our shit together for the rest of the season.
As Penn State starts looking doable, Illinois is suddenly looking losable?
I wouldn't say "worried", but I was thinking the same exact thing today. But, I don't see any reason why we shouldn't be able to get to 7 or 8 wins, which is exactly what I expected coming into the season. Not to rehash what's already been said, but... the offense was awful today, but I'm confident they will turn things around. Without the turnovers the game would have been down to the last drive.
That a game that seemed a gimme is now possibly hard. Not that we CAN'T win it. Just like PSU went from a game we wouldn't have a chance in, to one we could win. (Yet going there, we could still conceivably lose).
I'm oddly stable about this one. From the start of the season I figured we needed to score 35 to be assured a win. The defense held State to 31, so 35 would have won it. We also got some good pressure bringing four rusher. On the offensive side you add on the two TDs from the red zone turnovers and that failed field goal at the end of the first and we points and the win.
Denard reminded us he is a soph and this is the first year of starting. Henne did the same thing a few times during his soph year. We're a young team and young players make mistakes. Period. That's what happened to us today. Our schemes worked on both sides of the ball IMHO. You have Denard take back a couple bad reads he made and we're headed to OT at the very worst or likely winning it in regulation.
Also we had some flashes of brilliance in the run game.
I think people are melting down because after a flashy start we forgot where we were on the rebuilding map. The team reminded us of that today. It hurts, but it is the truth.
Let's just call this what it is: There's a ceiling for a team with a defense like this and a total disaster of a kicking game. You can't do much when your kicking game forces your hand when you should be putting points on the board, and you can't do much when your defense can't stop the other team from racking up big plays and tons of points.
It's frustrating, but this game was the reality check.
that we can't seem to get past? It seems like they do just enough to win, and have just enough big plays in timely situations to beat us... I hate to be so emo with my first post, but it's just... awfully annoying to see the smug grins of those two guys every year after they beat us...
Tressel has obviously had our number but I'd attribute losing to Sparty more to all the shiiiiiit that has happened in the last three years within the program (injuries, personel, etc) not Dantonerino
Tressel beats UM because his teams are extremely talented and play disciplined football. MSU has won a couple of years in a row, but let's not get carried away. MSU has an experienced team with good talent, but I'm not ready to crown them yet.
And really, none of them have been close, but for an almost miracle comeback last year. You can't credit MSU without admitting - he owns us. And he will till we can now put 2 in a row on them. I mean, 2 of our 3 losses were at home....
Dantonio has also had the luxury of facing three consecutive first-year starters at QB for Michigan. Young QBs make mistakes. Cousins threw two picks in last year's game, and Forcier made his share of bad throws. Today, Cousins was sharp while Denard was unusually off. I do think he'll do a lot better next year.
A young Michigan team lost and MSU took advantage of our mistakes like a decent team ought to do. Now, the fact that we made what looked like to be so many unforced mistakes in a weird way gives me more hope b/c I honestly think that those are correctable.
At least Alabama lost. That'll help keep the focus off of us this week.
That probably gives Ohio State the National Title.
Except they still have to win that BCS Championship game. They haven't had too much luck with those.
They get an Oregon team they already beat up last year; some sub-power like Boise; or heck, if it gets weird, maybe MSU. Here's hoping Nebraska can make it an all "Big Ten" final instead. (Ugh. Reduced to rooting for the Cornhuskers. That's how bad it's gotten). Because Oklahoma has had even less luck in bowls that OSU lately.
I'd rather be where we are now, then where we were in 2007 at the same point. Difference: beat MSU in 2007. Our stock is going up and it clearly wasn't then. But blue chip performers dip every once in a while on the way up.
To the casual fans and MSM, (most of the Rich Rodriguez haters and obnoxious Sparty fans are just casual fans), winning the rivalry games are all that count. Not the general direction the more serious fans see.
Get ready to put up with a lot of really annoying chatter and smack talk for months on end. That won't change until Michigan wins these games with MSU, OSU, PSU etc.
Beating Iowa would change perceptions in a big way though. I'd say it is a real opportunity for this program.
If there's anything I can't stand, it's the continual attempts at revisionist history about the Carr Era here. I don't get it. It's like we feel we have to trash the hell out of Lloyd and Lloyd's teams to boost Rich Rodriguez.
Give it a rest, people.
I agree that trashing Carr is useless, but that doesn't mean people can't be critical of his latter years. He was always a great recruiter and a good guy, but his playcalling left something to be desired and his teams struggled toward the end. People are already burying RR and have been doing so since he arrived at UM; I think it is fair to point out that all was not rosy with Carr.
Yet it gets pointed out, whether directly or between-the-lines, in just about every major thread. It flat-out doesn't matter anymore.
I saw an MSU team with tricks and switched up plays that worked. I saw us...not so much. But it wasn't even that bad. Just this tried meme that we were so bad play calling then, and thank God that's over, is stupid. This team was outcoached today. It's not a career indictment, but let's be honest and say it hasn't been some grand improvement either. For all the bad play calls and poor recruiting, Lloyd did win his last SIX vs. MSU (and would have been 8 but for some cheating).
If you'd rather not have winning streaks vs. MSU, PSU, Purdue, Illinois, and be winning bowl games vs. Florida, that's fine. But don't still credit where we're going to Rich without blaming him for where we are.
Sure, Iowa is an opportunity. But it could also make for a LONG bye week (which made this game so important). I'm guessing you're not hitting Vegas with your confidence over next week's opportunity.
This team will rebound. I just hope we wrap up and tackle better defensively.
Meh, the game was a disappointment of course. However, had we lost to a team like Iowa or Wisconsin in the fashion we did today then it wouldn't have hurt nearly as bad. The offense just wasn't having its day and the defense was the defense. Today has made me realize how much I really dislike the fans of MSU though. Sparty running all the way across the field to stand right in front of the student section and wave the MSU flag after the game was the icing on the cake. He had no reason to run over and do that so he was going 120 yards out of his way just to be an asshat. Go Blue, Beat Iowa.
I've collected my wits, and I'm sorry for my earlier tirade. Iowa is definitely beatable, since I don't think they have anywhere near the quality on offense that MSU does. I wish the best to Martin and Odoms -- we need you guys!
Well, at the beginning of the season, if you told me we would be 5-1 at the midway point, I would have said, "Yes please, thank you." Losing to Sparty sucks, but with our defense forcing us to have to score over 30 to have a chance, I think everyone knew were were going to take some lumps in conference play. Right now, I would take 3-3 for the rest of the season and be pretty happy with that.
Ok, on to the "reacting". Denard had to come back to being human at some point, and today was the day. The defense is a lost cause, I can see it getting slightly better as the secondary continues to learn on the job, but until we have better talent on that side of the ball that knows what it is doing, we are not going to see that much of a leap. We are half way through the year, it pretty much is what it is, terrible. However, the running back situation continues to vex me more then anything else. Can we please see more of the other backs? Smith/Shaw are just not the solution, and we have at least 6 more games (hopefully 7) before we can annoint Dee Hart as our running back savior. Lets see what the other guys can do.
We're not the only team Sparty has beaten this season. Sparty will run over a lot of teams with their balanced attack. No one expected us to run the table in the big 10. We didn't execute and we lost the turnover battle. We know what we did wrong, and we can learn from the mistakes. We have a young team and perhaps the offense thought they were unstoppable. Every good offense has their off days. Perhaps we can come out sharp next week for Iowa.
didn't execute in critical situation. Two of the INTs that Denard threw was simply bad throws, not bad reads. I have to see it again to check on his mechanics because he was either late in his throws or his footwork didn't allow the ball to come out quicker. After that, Denard seems more indecisive and it shows when he hesitiated when he threw up for grab to Grady.
The OL had trouble sustaining blocks in the 2nd half and that's probably due to MSU slanting hard with LBs filling up the gap quickly.
The WRs had several drops. Roundtree was the most notable one but it didn't matter since they scored a TD. Hemingway was simply trying to run before he secured the ball. Stonum stopped a little bit but if he had kept going, he would've caught the ball.
The defense made a few stops but the LBs play were disappointing. Ezeh was consistently late to fill up the hole and get washed out easily. Mouton had some good moments and other bad moments.
Cam Gordon had a terrible game and doesn't look to wrap up which is frustrated me. His mistakes were magnified even more because the front 7 didn't do very well. Michigan need a S who have the speed and the range plus sure tackling ability to succeed.
Well, sadly this one went how I expected. I was hopeful going into this one, but had a very strong suspicion we would get outplayed like we did today. It sucks because it's Michigan State and we have to deal with their fans for a few days, but we are still 5-1.
We now need to put this one behind us and not let the bottom fall out of this season. The only win I am confident in is at Purdue. Beyond that, anything can happen. Iowa can go either way and OSU will destroy us. Wisco and Illinois I am still unsure about. Overall, this can still be a solid season, provided we can win 2-3 of our remaining games.
Talk agains RR is way premature now. Just as 1 big win can't define a coach, neither can 1 bad loss (speaking only of this season). How we respond the rest of the way will be more telling of RR than just 1 off-game.
1. Defense played to expectations, it's frustrating but no more so than any other week this season and, at this point, I don't ask for anything more than 4 stops in a game from them. I am excited about Jibreel Black though.
2. I wasn't annoyed by the playcalling (minus the punt at the end of the game which RR explained in his presser). I was annoyed by the lack of execution. I would not have been surprised if the defense cost us the game, I was a little disappointed that it seemed mostly due to lack of offensive execution.
3. This game served as a reminder of my season expectations. As explosive as this offensive is, there are still some really young players out there who have a lot to learn and a lot to develop (which, holy hell, offensive juggernaut here we come). This loss was to a pretty good Spartan team and was a toss-up coming in. It was not a "must win".
4. We're going to get those 8 wins and possibly 9 and have a spectacular showing in a bowl game this year. RR stays the course and we continue the climb back to the top.
Let's demolish Iowa.
I don't think I've ever been more upset about a penalty on another team than I was about the false start penalty that wiped out a nice stop by the D. State converted the subsequent 3rd and 15 and eventually scored the a TD on a long run. Man it really felt like we were cursed today watching this game (maybe I'm projecting my Cubs fan angst on this team).
They need to get the play stopped faster if it's not going to count. That completely turned the game.
While it aways hurts to lose to sparty, they are a good team. And i dont think that anyone thought that we were going to go undefeated, so all is well. My question / concern is; will this loss start to slow our recruiting momentum? After just landing Dee it seems like we had a lot of momentum, with alot of visitors at the big house for the game. Hopefully they see this loss as potential playing time, and not be turned off by the loss.