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November 10th, 2012 at 9:08 PM
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maizenbluedevil
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Official Jordan Kovacs Legends Patch Bitching Thread

I am so pissed they took 32 off Kovacs, not only that but just for the last 3 games of his career.... really....  wtf???  At this point why even do it, what's the point?

I was hoping Kovacs would get a legends patch of his own and that 32 would be worn by any future walk-on that excels and distinguishes himself as an irreplaceable and valuable member of the team as Kovacs has.  I guess those hopes are no more.

I can't be the only one that thinks this is stupid.  All bitching goes here. 

I would put the "Damn all the things!" pic here but I couldn't find it.

EDIT: Thanks to BeileinBuddy for posting it.

 

CJK5H

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November 10th, 2012 at 9:09 PM
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I got stuck and missed the

I got stuck and missed the game. What number was Kovacs given?

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November 10th, 2012 at 9:10 PM
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maizenbluedevil
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11

11

 

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November 10th, 2012 at 9:10 PM
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11. Wistert bros. I think? Is

11. Wistert bros. I think? Is that right? I know it was 11 but not the name for sure.

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November 10th, 2012 at 9:19 PM
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justingoblue
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That's correct.

Whitey, Al and Alvin.

"We bring you to Michigan to take care of Michigan; your job is to protect that block M."
-Carol Hutchins

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November 10th, 2012 at 9:40 PM
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mjagger
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Wait a minute...Al and Alvin

Isn't that redundent?? Is that why they wore 11?

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November 10th, 2012 at 9:42 PM
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mjagger
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Wait a minute...Al and Alvin

Isn't that redundent?? Is that why they wore 11?

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November 10th, 2012 at 9:43 PM
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Lol. Your double post seems

Lol. Your double post seems quite apros pos.

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November 11th, 2012 at 12:34 AM
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...apropos? (or, if you want

...apropos? (or, if you want to be pedantic, it's à propos in french.)

RIP my avatar, June 14, 1998 - October 26, 2012.

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November 10th, 2012 at 9:11 PM
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#32

#32

And they changed his nameplate to read "WALK-ON"

Ann Arbor: now the permanent home of the Little Brown Jug

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November 10th, 2012 at 9:10 PM
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bigger

picture

 

NEG

 

Biz hundert azoi ve tsvantsik

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November 10th, 2012 at 9:11 PM
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Kovacs has been a sensational

Kovacs has been a sensational memeber to this team and university, but has he really been one of the most influential 30 or so athletes in michigan football history?

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November 11th, 2012 at 12:49 AM
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B1G_Fan
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  Not one of the players on

  Not one of the players on this team deserves a legends patch even 20-30 years from now. Michigan football has been wallowing in mediocrity since 2008 and it just makes these guys look better since they are actually semi competitive on both sides of the ball. I'm positive in 5-10 years nobody will remember any of these players as "Michigans greats"

 After the 2008, 2009 and 2010 teams being so terribly inept, having a team thats semi competent makes people think they are the greatest. It's like Eddie Murphy said " If you're straving and someone throws you a cracker you're going to be like this: " Goddam, this is the best cracker I ever ate in my life! This ain't no regular cracker, this is a saltine or some shit"

 I just can't wait for Michigan football to move on from "crackers" and really start to eat again

 

 

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November 11th, 2012 at 9:57 AM
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bronxblue
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You must be a very pleasant

You must be a very pleasant person to be around. 

Seriously, ragging on current kids and saying they'll never be regarded as "greats" is just silly.  Nobody thought we'd be thinking of Tom Brady as a "great" when he left, yet people today talk about him as if he should have won two Heisman's while on campus.

I think Denard will be remember very fondly be people who can pull their heads out of their butts and separate their hatred for RR and for losing and remember how dynamic he is as a player.  As we've seen with other people in at QB, UM's offense is nothing to write home about (except against incredibly poor defenses) without Denard in there.

Also, David Molk should be remembered as one of the best centers in UM history.

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November 11th, 2012 at 12:32 PM
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B1G_Fan
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 Being remembered fondly and

 Being remembered fondly and being remembered as great are two different things. Denards a dynamic player and a few say he is a once in a generation talent but i can name 5 players off the top of my head in college football who are every bit as explosive as Denard. Kenjon Barner , Tavon Austin , Johnny Manziel, Marcus Mariota and possibly Braxton Miller.

   How soon we forget how good some of our Centers where. David Baas , David Brandt, Marcus Curry and those are just recent centers. If you go old school Michigan has several Centers in the college football hall of fame. You make my point for me tho , molk was a competent center and his replacement is not. It makes you think of him as being better than he was.

 I can't speak for everyone but, I always thought Tom Brady got a raw deal at Michigan. He was head and shoulders above Drew Henson but had to split time with him for no other reason than fear he would leave ( which he did anyways). How many times did Brady play to a lead , then switch to Henson and lose the lead and switch back to brady to win. Brady became a great QB despite Michigan not because of Michigan.

 This coaching staff exspects greatness but the fanbase accepts mediocrity.

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November 11th, 2012 at 9:20 PM
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Sparty, go back to RCMB

where you belong.

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November 11th, 2012 at 1:05 PM
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B1G_Fan
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 Even with Denard in what

 Even with Denard in what good defenses has Michigan beat. Michigan hasn't beaten a team that finished in the top 17 of any poll since Carr left. We beat MSU this year because their offense was as bad as our defense was a few years ago. This must be what it was like to be an Indiana fan when they had Randle el. We have a tradition of football greatness and should exspect nothing less

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November 11th, 2012 at 12:13 PM
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mgoblueaustin
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Pardon me

Pardon me, but the fuck?

"Im positive 5-10 years from now no one will remember any of these players as Michigan greats."

- Really?  I am assuming that you are only referring to the seniors, as Jake Ryan and Taylor Lewan are looking like All-Americans and "Michigan greats" potential status.  Even if you are referring to only the seniors, Denard dude.  Denard Robinson.

You sound like you're from London

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November 11th, 2012 at 12:38 PM
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 I like Denard as a person

 I like Denard as a person but I can't wait for him to graduate. He's always been an exceptional football player playing out of position. He's not a QB plain and simple. It's my opinion and prolly a lot of other peoples opinion too but I'll come out and say it

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November 11th, 2012 at 12:51 AM
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B1G_Fan
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  Not one of the players on

 double post

 

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November 10th, 2012 at 9:11 PM
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WolverineJet
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Considering he is the one

Considering he is the one that accepted the number I think your bitching should end.

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November 11th, 2012 at 12:46 AM
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I've seen this before and

I've seen this before and while yes, technically you're right, I don't think anyone on the team would have the gall to decline wearing a legends jersey, no matter how respectfully he could do it.

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November 10th, 2012 at 9:11 PM
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He could still get the 32

He could still get the 32 patch maybe. We all know him as 32, and I doubt he'll be remembered forever as 11.

Does anyone know exactly why we're doing this anyway? Is it because we need more numbers?

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November 10th, 2012 at 9:44 PM
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snarling wolverine
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The Legends Patch program

The Legends Patch program allows us to use all numbers from 1 to 99 while also honor more great players.  Before we did this, Gerald Ford was the only player we'd honored in the past 30 years.

Kovacs has had an awesome career, but he's not quite at the level of being a Michigan Legend.

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November 11th, 2012 at 12:21 AM
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Stike A Pose
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I disagree to an extent.  I

I disagree to an extent.  I wouldn't call Kovacs a "legend" but when was the last time Michigan had a walk on that made an impact like Kovacs had?  His impact on just being a walk on is pretty huge for his program.  I'm not saying that their should be a Jordan Kovacs patch, but I woudn't hate it if they decided to treat #32 kind of like #1 but give it to the best walk on after spring practices as an incentive for walk ons to step up their game.  The number could be a legend in it's own right, and a new tradition.

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November 11th, 2012 at 12:43 AM
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snarling wolverine
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He's made a great

He's made a great contribution, but he's not the first walk-on to earn a scholarship and become a starter.  There have been a few over the years.  The 1997 team actually featured two guys who had originally walked on - Brian Griese and Eric Mayes.  Mayes was our defensive captain that year and starting inside linebacker until he suffered a knee injury.  Griese, well, you know.

Anyhow, I don't know that a walk-on would necessarily aspire to wear the designated "walk-on jersey."  They usually just want to be treated as part of the team, no different from the guys who were recruited.  What's cool about Kovacs wearing #11 is that he's a guy who walked on and ended up wearing a Legends jersey.

 

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November 11th, 2012 at 11:59 AM
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other very impactful walk-ons

middle guards donnie warner, henry hill, and tim davis all eventually started @ middle guard for bo schembechler in the late 60's through the mid-late 70's 

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November 10th, 2012 at 9:12 PM
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Shit must be pretty good if

Shit must be pretty good if we're creating a thread bitching that a player switched numbers.

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November 10th, 2012 at 9:29 PM
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Shit is not good at all.

Shit is not good at all. Unless Minny and Iowa somehow show up in the next 2 weeks, over the past 2 games, officials (along with late collapses by their opponents) have just handed the Huskers a trip to the B1G championship on a silver platter. Not really sure why people are wasting time whining over Kovacs receiving a great honor.

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November 10th, 2012 at 9:44 PM
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I am with you on that one. I

I am with you on that one. I feel like it will take two losses by nu for us to make the trip to Indy. That's a lot of luck in a short period of time.

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November 10th, 2012 at 9:14 PM
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Mon-L
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Who Cares

I think it's rad. I don't care about number changes. The guy played well and they gave him a legends jersey. That is cool. End of story.

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November 10th, 2012 at 9:15 PM
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I seem to recall

them mentioning that the players are merely offered the jersey and then have to accept the number change... which begs the question, why the hell do you care what number he wants to wear?

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November 10th, 2012 at 9:16 PM
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SteelBrad
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You think Kovacs had a chance

You think Kovacs had a chance at his own legend patch? Really?

Forever For Michigan

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November 10th, 2012 at 9:19 PM
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You don't think Jordan Kovacs

You don't think Jordan Kovacs is a Michigan legend? Really?

Look up the Youtube video of the feature that BTN did on him.  His story is amazing.  The fact that he started out a walk-on makes it all the more remarkable.  

 

 

CJK5H

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November 10th, 2012 at 9:40 PM
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A good story does not warrant

A good story does not warrant a legends patch, there have been plenty of amazing stories in michigan football history, they don't all have retired numbers

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November 10th, 2012 at 9:44 PM
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WorldwideTJRob
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He is a very influential

He is a very influential player and one that has had bright spots on the feild with his play. But I truly doubt he gets a legends patch. They still have yet to give one to Woodson or AC, and their way up on the list before Kovacs. Eric Mays was also a walk-on captain and also was on a NC team, I think he would be ahead of Kovacs too.

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November 10th, 2012 at 9:59 PM
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Great story doesn't mean

Great story doesn't mean Michigan legend.  I know he is near and dear to us as Michigan fans, but he hasn't even been a 1st Team All-Conference player.  You have to remember the men these patches are honoring.  A past president, A Heisman Trophy winner, a 3 time All-American (every year playing), etc.  

You are correct Kovacs is a great story.  But in 40 years will he be the person the next generation looks back and recognizes? I doubt it.

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November 10th, 2012 at 10:43 PM
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Yeah let's just give Elliot Mealer one also

while we're at it.

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November 10th, 2012 at 9:18 PM
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From the mgoblue.com postgame

From the mgoblue.com postgame quotes (emphasis added):

U-M Senior/Junior Safety Jordan Kovacs

On wearing No. 11 ... "Coach Hoke let me know earlier in the week that I would be wearing No. 11, and he asked me how I felt about it, and of course I felt it was a huge honor. I've worn 32 for quite some time and I think that I will always be 32, but I think it's a great opportunity to honor our legends and that's the approach that I had. I did a little research on the Wisterts and I had the opportunity to meet Albert yesterday, and he said that when he was first given 11, it was just so humbling and he was so excited and it was a huge honor for him, and he said that he prayed every game before he put it on that he would be worthy of wearing it, so that's kind of my approach. It's a huge honor, and I just hope that I am worthy enough to wear it."

Kovacs seems to understand what others don't--he can still be considered #32, but at the same time he has been given this great honor.

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November 11th, 2012 at 10:30 AM
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Amen. I logged in to post

Amen. I logged in to post this same thing. Kovacs considers himself 32 still, but appreciated the opportunity to be honored with this number. It might be a different story if this was halfway through last year - but for just a few games - seems like a nice comprimise. He deserves extra recognition.

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November 10th, 2012 at 9:17 PM
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I love Kovacs, but he's never

I love Kovacs, but he's never going to get a Legends patch.  Think of all the "legendary" Michigan players over the decades that never got one.  

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November 10th, 2012 at 9:19 PM
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Yep. Great player, but he's

Yep. Great player, but he's not a once-in-a-generation talent or anything. Unless he becomes President someday (which I would fully support), this isn't going to be an issue.

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November 10th, 2012 at 9:56 PM
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No politics.   But I would

No politics.

 

But I would totally vote Kovacs for President.

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November 10th, 2012 at 10:02 PM
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with JMFR for Secretary of

with JMFR for Secretary of Defense

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November 11th, 2012 at 2:06 AM
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B1G_Fan
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 Gerg Robinson  as secretary

 Gerg Robinson  as secretary of defense

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November 11th, 2012 at 4:17 AM
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Swazi
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Lose ALL of the wars.

Lose ALL of the wars.

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November 11th, 2012 at 11:46 AM
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aiglick
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Hoke as Surgeon General /

Hoke as Surgeon General

/ Boom Boo Boo'd

Here's hoping for a bright future. This team does try hard and I will continue to support them.

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November 10th, 2012 at 9:17 PM
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Jordan Kovacs is the man, but

Jordan Kovacs is the man, but if you honestly think he would get that number retired for him over the freaking A-train you are either younger than 18 or delusional.

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.

- Vince Lombardi

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November 10th, 2012 at 10:05 PM
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LSA Aught One
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I'm

Pretty sure I'm not in an RDT situation, but if I had been drinking, I would think that I just typed that. Nice.

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November 10th, 2012 at 9:18 PM
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flatblack
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I was wondering the same thing

Why give it to a Senior that has only a few games left.  Also, creating a number for walkons would be a great way to respect what Kovacs not only did as a walkon, but DID to get there.  Either way...GO BLUE!

 

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November 10th, 2012 at 9:19 PM
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coldnjl
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Lets bitch about the

Lets bitch about the possibiliity that the helmets might change, but honoring 3 former athletes who had their number retired by giving it to our best team player is too far?

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