Rivals really going out on a limb with that Chesson/Jackson prediction.
talk to caris yo
Rivals really going out on a limb with that Chesson/Jackson prediction.
Personally, I don't think it is much of a limb. Jackson, from what I hear, is the superior blocker and will get plenty of snaps for that very reason. He probably won't be targeted very often on the deep ball, but depth chart mostly indicates snaps not usage.
I'll believe it when I see it. I have not been impressed at all by Jackon's blocking...the best one I've seen was on a Hopkins TD where he got his hand caught in the defender's facemask.
moved up from 4th string TE I see!!!
I presume you're implying that Green is going to star in the national championship game.
that Morris is going to beast it in the first half like Spike. And start tweeting Kate Upton. But this time Meeechigan comes out on top.
+1 for optimism and creativity.
Especially if we get to play Weis again. Man, Kansas is bad, and Weis is still fat.
That would be nice.
I'll take that for sure
Actually that's a good comparison almost forgot bout Mitch
Except Mitch was out of shape from an injury. It was more reasonable to expect he would regain his form once the injury was healed. Green is just a question mark.
Green is recovering from an ankle injury.
Magnus, can you explain to me why this entire fan base hates Derrick Green? I mean I've never seen a canvases so disgruntled about a 5 star player. I'm as big of a UM fan as anyone here. I know everyone here would complained if he went to ohio saying they got the next beanie wells.
*fanbase, sry I was typing on my phone
We can't have nice things, that's why. Plus, De'Veon Smith is the obnoxious hipster pick to be the better back, so of course everyone jumps on that train.
Some people like to be contrarian, and their comments are published just like the rest. I also think fans sometimes take it a little personally when kids come in a bit out of shape. They're offended that Derrick Green came in at 240 lbs. instead of around 230, because they think he's not taking football as serious as he should.
That's my own personal opinion on why so many people are disgruntled with Green. As for my opinion, I'm not that concerned. It really doesn't take very much time in August to shed 5-10 lbs. if necessary.
Couldn't agree more with Magnus' comment.
Totally ridiculous to base opinions on Green on a listed weight and a couple carries shown on CTK.
I also think Smith could be a stud but I'm still as excited about Green as I was when he committed.
it has to do with the total absence of positive chatter about his abilities from camp, with the most prominent (Hoke) comment being that Green "is learning about college football." Why does the absence (so far) of positve buzz concern me? Because RB is the one position where a freshmen can make an immediate impact, and have his abilities be immediately obvious. Recall the Denard freshman buzz for example (I know, QB but it was all running buzz). For a 5 star #1, a guy that rates as a future first round pick, to not stand out right away makes me wonder.
He got injured almost immediately. The freshmen weren't practicing for the first few days of fall camp, then he had an injury by the end of his first week of practice. That's not much time to create a legend.
So Derrick Green is going to go off in spring practice next year?
Opinions on top of opinions. Although Stribling has been shown in these videos as a ball hawk! Can football hurry up already!
Look, anyone playing next to Taylor Lewan will be fine. When i was in high school i was a left or right guard. Whenever i lined up next to "Big Cat", who was our premier star tackle, i was able to absolutely dominate. It allowed me to cheat knowing that he was fine and that he never missed assingment. This allowed me to concentrate on my role and also throw some cheap shots and double team the nose. You put anyone next to a premier tackle and that guard is just going to eat up those DT's. Hell, i could play next to Taylor. Left guard is the least of my worries. He won't be asked to pull much compared to the right guard so all he has to do is fire out and not fuck up. I'd like to see Bryant win the right guard so he can pull towards Lewan and light them skinny linebackers up. Left guard...how nice would it be to hunker down next to The Big Guy? Either option will work.
Mainly because of how they chose Mealer last year.
Look at the worst case scenarios.
If you had the choice between a player:
A. Not holding a block quite as long or getting as much push.
B. Fumbling a snap, or completely missing a call/blocking assignment.
I'd take A any day and try my best to scheme around this weakness.
B means a possible game changing disaster.
Although I'm sure Miller & Glasgow aren't THAT far apart.
the only depth chart that matters is the one the coaches put out tomorrow. And that one only matters for a week.
We'll do a lot of rotating in the front 7, and that will pay off as the season wears on. Stribling making some waves at CB helps to shore things up back there, but safety still worries me. No matter how you shuffle it, we still seem pretty mediocre there. Hill doesn't seem to be in the mix there yet, and Thomas may be locked in at nickel corner this year (though he may very well shift to being a pure SS next year, as our other CBs develop). A little disappointed that Pipkins is not getting more practice buzz...for a 5 star guy going into his second year, he seems very much under the radar. Ditto for RJS...he's looking like a perennial backup.
In fact there was a fairly detailed piece right on this web site in the lead-up to last season documenting how highly rated DTs were among the MOST likely position players to make an impact as true freshmen. Pipkins came in as a 5 star last year and had a whole season of on-field experience, but doesn't seem to have improved noticeably over 2012. He's looking like another Will Campbell...a guy who comes in with great credentials and gets every opportunity to shine, but never gets beyond the level of a mediocre 2nd stringer.
Championship teams are based on strong line play. You need dominant players at DT to have a killer defense, and Pipkins ain't gonna be that.
Is this a joke? You have not seen Pipkins play a single down of football in 2013, and you are already saying he will be another Will Campbell? Come back after the season and post something like this, when perhaps it will not be just garbage, but actually have some merit. I really wish people who post garbage like this would get time-outs on here.
is the case. Young linemen on both sides are normally redshirted at developed programs. You'll have to do better than referencing an article posted last year that purports to show 18 year old DTs starting and making a positive impact against players who have been in college weight rooms for several years. Most teams who start freshmen on the DL are in trouble.
List for us all the freshmen DTs who have been studs right off the bat.
You're kind of a dumbass. No offense.
More like TakeaBreak, AMIRITE?
Seriously, WTF man? Pipkins has looked good in all available practice clips, and it seems pretty apparent that Hoke is counting on him being a major disruption rotating in there. Are you drunk?
Pipkins is supposedly the modern Gabe Watson. He's good but doesn't play hard every down.
The staff need to figure out how to motavate him if thats truely the case
A high motor is generally something you either have as a Dlineman, or you don't. It's not something you can just switch on because someone kicks you in the ass or passes you on the depth chart. If he can't motivate himself to come hard on every play at this level of competition, then he's likely to stay at 2nd or 3rd on the depth chart his whole time here.
You should probably take a beather before you embarrass yourself any further.
I agree that this change has to come from withing, but some coaches are better at bringing it out than others. It's the art of being a drill sergeant, so-to-speak. I hope that if Pipkins is having effort/motivation issues, he'll have that come to Jesus moment where he realizes that he is pissing away a potential NFL career by not playing hard enough.
RJS won't be a major contributer here unless someone goes down.
Nose tackle is not a position of concern so you're not going to be hearing as much because people aren't asking the coaches about it like they are about interior OL, DE, WR etc which were concerns after last year. Pipkins also has a returning senior starter in Q Wash ahead of him, who had an excellent season last year. The only really thing we know about Pipkins is he's not pushing Q for the starting position, which is neither a surprise nor a bid deal. He played plenty of snaps last year in a similar depth scenario because it's a position that rotates and did ok for a FR. We'll have to wait until gameday to find out if he's taken the next step or not, but as far as I'm concerned, no news is good news when it comes to the DT position.
And BTW, Pipkins *DID* get some buzz by the BTN bus tour observers
I've heard some talk before that we don't have confidence in the FS position. My question is what gives with Wilson? He has the recruiting profile to be a good player, he seems to have the size and the speed. He is a smart guy (he was an academic all american). He played a bunch of snaps last year as both a reserve safety and special teamer. I sorta got the impression that the coaches tried to groom him last year by getting him into a lot of games. So, what gives? Shouldn't he be ready to be a solid contributer?
He's a true sophomore? Safety is just usually a position that require experience and demands excellence. A safety busting coverages or angles makes plays into TDs. Youth is not a good thing back there. But yeah, he came in with a reputation for being quite smart, so I (and several others) maybe erroneously assumed he would pick things up a bit quicker. But he is still young.
Last year LSU had a true sophomore, Sunseri for Bama was one too (and a good one), Texas A&M played one too, Georgia is planning on playing a true freshman and true sophomore this year at safety, etc. Other teams seem to do it just fine, so it seems being a true sophomore should not really be an issue, especially for a guy that got a lot of snaps last year, got to see a really smart player in front of him every day (Kovacs), and is playing next to a long time starter (Gordan) this year. What are we gonna do next year when Wilson (junior) and Thomas (sophomore) are our projected safeties?
The "guys take lots of time to develop" excuse still seems to get floated around here too much. But elite teams do not take 3-4 years to develop their top-notch talent. They just don't. If a guy isn't looking like a star by the end of his second year on the field, then odds are, he will never be one.
As far as safety goes, it's hard to figure what our problem is. We've had no shortage of high-quality recruits at safety for the last decade, but our production and playmaking at the safety position has been mediocre at best. That needs to improve if we're going to have the kind of defense that can challenge for a NC.
Anyone can make an unsupported claim. If you are going write as if you are an expert than you should be prepared to back your claims with the necessary data to support it.
Do you really expect him to go back and analyze all the starting sophomore safeties in order to have an opinion? It's one thing to value data more than anecdotal evidence, but to expect everyone to provide data to contribute to a conversation is a little much, don't you think?
I don't think it's too much to ask for a few examples.
conference as a freshman then he should be asked to provide a more than a few example of players who were. Then we could at least see SOME logic behind his belief.
Who showed nothing during their first two years seeing the field, and then blossomed into all-conference or all-American caliber talent. Then we'll talk. I'm denying that such player are at all common. If you'd like to challenge that, YOU back it up with evidence.
I’m not the one saying that freshman defensive tackles should be making an impact at the outset.
But since you asked I’ll provide you with a few DT’s: Chris Hutchinson, Jason Horn, Will Carr, and Rob Renes. That is just at DT.
You are not doing your IQ any favors by debating with this numbskull.