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Official bowl speculation / "How tan will I get this Christmas?" thread

I'm not sure about a lot of this, but I thought that I'd start a thread to collect some news, speculation, and opinions.

Here's what's extremely likely: we'll play an SEC team in either the Outback Bowl or Gator Bowl.  With Nebraska losing, we're ineligible for the Capital One Bowl, since we have two fewer wins than Nebraska.  So either Nebraska or Northwestern will go to the Capital One. 

Then the Outback Bowl picks.  They'll choose between Michigan and whichever of Nebraska and Northwestern doesn't go to the Capital One Bowl.  If the Capital One picks Northwestern, the Outback has to pick Nebraska.  Then the Gator Bowl chooses, and they'll almost certainly pick whichever of the three is left.

Long story short: we're going to either the Outback (Tampa, Jan 1, vs. SEC #3/4) or Gator (Jacksonville, Jan 1, vs. SEC #6).

That means that we're playing an SEC team.  If you believe some reporting out there by the Atlanta Journal Constitution and Shreveport Times (links below), the SEC bowl picture seems to be clarifying.  It sounds like the Capital One will probably take Texas A&M (maybe for an old Big 12 battle vs. Nebraska).  They probably also like that they'll get the likely Heisman winner.

The Shreveport Times then says this:

The Outback Bowl in Tampa, Fla., is next, and it is strongly in favor of taking No. 10 South Carolina (10-2). A logical place for the Gamecocks could be the Chick-fil-A Bowl, but that bowl is locked into No. 14 Clemson (10-2) as an opponent. And the SEC does not want a South Carolina-Clemson rematch after those two just played on Nov. 24.

Most projections I've seen have Mississippi State in the Gator Bowl.

So if you believe what's above and that the Big Ten is more unsettled than the SEC, we're most likely looking at South Carolina in the Outback Bowl or Mississippi State in the Gator Bowl.

 

Worth noting ----- It's very possible that all of this is wrong or premature.

 

http://blogs.ajc.com/uga-sports-blog/2012/12/01/notebook-nick-saban-beli...

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/article/20121201/SPORTS0202/121201015/Gle...

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:06 AM | Rematch with the Bulldogs, (Score:5 Normal)
DIABEETUS
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Rematch with the Bulldogs, please.

Michigan: 903–315–36 (Best in NCAA)
vs Ohio State: 58-44-6
vs Notre Dame: 23-16-1
vs MSU:  68-32-5
vs B1G: 522-197-24
vs SEC:  20-8-1
vs PAC 12: 48-24-1
vs Big 12: 10-5-1<

December 2nd, 2012 at 1:11 AM | No, thanks (Score:-1 Normal)
December 2nd, 2012 at 1:17 AM | You think we'd have a better (Score:1 Normal)
DIABEETUS
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You think we'd have a better chance against South Carolina, then? Or would you rather lose to SC than have to think about what happened last time?

Michigan: 903–315–36 (Best in NCAA)
vs Ohio State: 58-44-6
vs Notre Dame: 23-16-1
vs MSU:  68-32-5
vs B1G: 522-197-24
vs SEC:  20-8-1
vs PAC 12: 48-24-1
vs Big 12: 10-5-1<

December 2nd, 2012 at 4:13 AM | Wow. (Score:5 Normal)
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Why even bother posting or reading, or being interested in Michigan football if you're going to automatically declare a match-up against SC a loss? It's a football game and anything can happen. We could beat SC. It's a good thing you aren't a coach. I can't believe the pessimistic fans on this site sometimes. 

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Let them throw rocks...they still have to HAIL! 
December 2nd, 2012 at 9:08 AM | Did you watch much of South (Score:2 Normal)
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Did you watch much of South Carolina this year after the Lattimore injury?

December 2nd, 2012 at 9:59 AM | Evidence of how far Michigan (Score:2 Normal)
blueblueblue
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Evidence of how far Michigan has sunk in some fans' minds, without even realizing it. 

December 2nd, 2012 at 11:02 AM | (No subject) (Score:2 Normal)
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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:21 AM | Cue Section 1 Beacon (Score:5 Normal)
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Just what I need after watching Wiscy/Nebraska...RichRod debate.

If the haters don't hate you then you're doing something wrong. - David Cone

December 2nd, 2012 at 1:25 AM | You are right. (Score:5 Normal)
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You are right, but I'd still like to whip that ass. You know, just to remind them who we are. 

Also, wouldn't it be fitting to use that game as a way to close the door on that subject for good ?(as if anything ever could?)

Strive to win. If you lose....win. 

December 2nd, 2012 at 1:27 AM | Says the guy (Score:5 Normal)
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Who's had no problem personally turning Ohio State-Michigan into a referendum on the spread in the Big Ten and Michigan.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

December 2nd, 2012 at 1:10 AM | I hope you're right about the (Score:3 Normal)
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I hope you're right about the Heisman but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if it went to Te'o.  Too good of a player, too good of a person, too good of a story, and he's on a NCG team to top it all off.

December 2nd, 2012 at 1:16 AM | Boo (Score:5 Normal)
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Boo Monte Teo.  Charles Woodson should remain the only heisman defensive player for all time.  He's great but I really doubt he beats Manziel or Klein.

December 2nd, 2012 at 1:42 AM | Boo Boo? (Score:2 Normal)
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I thought he was healthy.

I LOVE MICHIGAN

December 2nd, 2012 at 1:25 AM | Yeah, but... (Score:2)
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If the award is really about the best college football player in the country (it isn't), then as much as it pains me to say it, he should probably get it. I don't think he will though. 

Strive to win. If you lose....win. 

December 2nd, 2012 at 1:15 AM | If we play Ms St, the B1G (Score:5 Normal)
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If we play Ms St, the B1G might actually get 1 bowl win...

December 2nd, 2012 at 1:17 AM | I want Vandy in the Gator (Score:3 Normal)
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I want Vandy in the Gator Bowl. Do not want to listen to Miss State's cowbells again.

December 2nd, 2012 at 1:19 AM | Did not think of that. That (Score:4 Normal)
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Did not think of that. That was pretty freaking obnoxious!

December 2nd, 2012 at 1:55 AM | CLANGACLANGACLANGA (Score:3 Normal)
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CLANGACLANGACLANGACLANGA

CLANGACLANGACLANGACLANGA

CLANGACLANGACLANGACLANGA

December 2nd, 2012 at 3:40 AM | Not cowbells (Score:4 Normal)
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If you look closely, those are adult-sized baby rattles

December 2nd, 2012 at 1:17 AM | I would definitely like to (Score:4 Normal)
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I would definitely like to see a game against Miss. State over the Cocks. I'm all for beating an MSU every chance we get.

December 2nd, 2012 at 1:19 AM | There seems to be conflicting (Score:3 Normal)
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There seems to be conflicting information on whether we are able to be selected by the Capital One Bowl. Some are saying that Capital One is tweeting that Michigan is still in play because the contract is within one win OR loss.

December 2nd, 2012 at 1:23 AM | We aren't eligible for the (Score:5 Normal)
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We aren't eligible for the Capital One Bowl.  The rules are pretty clear, and on top of that, the Capital One Bowl has said so via its Twitter account (after a misleading tweet suggesting the opposite).  Adam Rittenberg wrote something about this and the Capital One Bowl confirmed that what he says here is correct.

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/66327/clarifying-capital-one-ou...

We're not going to the Capital One.

December 2nd, 2012 at 2:41 AM | So there's still a chance we (Score:5 Normal)
MGoSteelers
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So there's still a chance we could go to the Capital One Bowl then???

December 2nd, 2012 at 1:25 AM | mississippi state looks (Score:2 Normal)
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mississippi state looks average this year. They got humiliated on the road at ole miss and beat troy by 6.

Give me vanderbilt, and we shall beat them by 20 but lead 13-7 at half with a chorus of boos raining down from the stands ala 2006 season opener. 

December 2nd, 2012 at 10:53 AM | CBS latest projection is UM v. Vandy in the Gator (Score:2)
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http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/bowls/predictions?ttag=gen10_on...

December 2nd, 2012 at 1:22 AM | Im going to guess (Score:1)
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Outback bowl vs LSU. I still don't really understand where exactly the Cotton bowl pick with the SEC is in the selection order.

If an OSU fan divorces his wife are they still brother and sister?

December 2nd, 2012 at 1:22 AM | So if we played Midwest (Score:5 Normal)
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So if we played Midwest Regional State instead of Alabama we could have been going to the Capital One bowl? That 2 loss rule is BS. Northwestern is rewarded for playing a crap out of conference schedule. This is just one more reason teams schedule non conference pushovers.

In such a cynical, sarcastic society, oftentimes looking for the negative on anybody or anything, if you're fortunate enough to spend five minutes or 20 minutes around Tim Tebow, your life is better for it. -Thom Brennaman

December 2nd, 2012 at 1:28 AM | without the rule, (Score:5 Normal)
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without the rule, Northwestern would be relegated to the Pizza Bowl every single year

When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing. -- Bo Schembechler

December 2nd, 2012 at 1:38 AM | Wrong (Score:5 Normal)
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You could make the rule apply to conference games rather than overall record. The overall record comparison absolutely sucks.

If an OSU fan divorces his wife are they still brother and sister?

December 2nd, 2012 at 1:56 AM | Seriously, we went 6-2 in (Score:5 Normal)
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Seriously, we went 6-2 in conference, finished ahead of them in the Division standings, and we're stuck in a shitty bowl matchup because we played the 2 National Title teams and they played Syracuse (7-5) and Vandy (8-4)

If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?

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December 2nd, 2012 at 2:11 AM | Bowl selection committees (Score:2 Normal)
russale2012
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Bowl selection committees will always pick Michigan over Northwestern if they have the option. We're a powerful brand name. We put asses in the seats. Northwestern doesn't. Northwestern home games are glorified high school games. Most people at the school couldn't care less about the football program.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:16 PM | This. (Score:2)
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Let's just hope that Capital One doesn't pass on Nebraska, then we will likely be chosen for the Outback Bowl.

December 2nd, 2012 at 2:29 AM | Kork (Score:4 Normal)
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Kork? Zat you?

December 2nd, 2012 at 2:00 AM | Actually Northwestern had (Score:5 Normal)
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Actually Northwestern had some of the Big Ten's only out of conference wins against BCS teams. They had 3 wins against Syracuse, BC, and Vandy. Obviously not powerhouses, but 2 of them are playing in bowl games.

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.

- Vince Lombardi

December 2nd, 2012 at 2:02 AM | iirc (Score:2)
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Syracuse handed Charlie Strong's Louisville team an hellacious beating

If the haters don't hate you then you're doing something wrong. - David Cone

December 2nd, 2012 at 2:08 AM | Big East football for (Score:2 Normal)
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Big East football for you.....

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December 2nd, 2012 at 2:12 AM | Northwestern is not going to (Score:2)
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Northwestern is not going to get picked over us.  Their overall record is only one game better, so we're eligible to go over them (though not Nebraska).  Our fanbase is much larger and any bowl will choose us first.  The teams that will be slotted below NW will all be 7-5 or 6-6.

 

December 2nd, 2012 at 12:13 PM | Kind of... (Score:1)
blueblood06
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We're eligible over Northwestern, but because we're not eligible over Nebraska and Northwestern is, that makes Northwestern eligible for a game that we are not eligible for. 

December 2nd, 2012 at 1:12 PM | Yes, but there is zero (Score:2)
snarling wolverine
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Yes, but there is zero realistic chance they will get picked for that bowl over Nebraska, and there is zero realistic chance they will get picked for a bowl over Michigan.

December 2nd, 2012 at 1:23 AM | Also to the OP's "How tan (Score:3 Normal)
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Also to the OP's "How tan will I get" I already live in Florida so it's more like a "How far will I have to drive" this Christmas!

December 2nd, 2012 at 1:30 AM | mississippi state, please. we (Score:3 Normal)
russale2012
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mississippi state, please. we have a defense this time around, and i want to jake mf ryan to bring a world of hurt on them. payback is a bitch.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:30 AM | I have a feeling we'll be (Score:1 Normal)
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I have a feeling we'll be playing the Cockz which is scary because holy shit our o-line holy shit

would happily play Mississippi State again since it's not like there's really any more "prestige" to the effing Outback Steakhouse Bowl and we can actually beat the Bulldogs. 

When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing. -- Bo Schembechler

December 2nd, 2012 at 1:33 AM | No South Carolina (Score:0 Flamebait)
December 2nd, 2012 at 1:34 AM | We are going to get the (Score:-1 Overrated)
December 2nd, 2012 at 10:11 AM | depends if Fester (Score:1)
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can get his head out of the ground.

December 2nd, 2012 at 1:52 AM | This is what I've got so (Score:1 Normal)
One Inch Woody ...
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This is what I've got so far:

Relevant Bowls:

  • Rose: Wisconsin vs. Stanford (Given Wisco's performance tonight + more time to get used to their coaching staff changes + Joel Stave returning, I'll give it a push)
  • Fiesta: KSU vs. Oregon  (What was to be the NCG.. Oregon dominates)
  • Sugar: Florida vs. Oklahoma (Push, if Landry Jones decides to show up)
  • Capital One: Nebraska vs. Georgia (Nebraska will get crushed.)
  • Cotton: Texas vs. Texas A&M (Good old rivalry game)
  • Outback: Michigan vs. South Carolina (Will be a good game)
  • Chick-Fil-A: LSU vs. Clemson (lolACC)
  • Alamo: Oklahoma State vs. Oregon State (OSU wins.)
  • Gator: Northwestern vs. Miss State (Honestly NW could pull this out)
  • BWW Bowl: A BAD TCU squad vs. Michigan State (Staee wins)
  • Meineke Car Care: Baylor (yikes!) vs. Purdue (Baylor kills Purdue)
  • Heart of Dallas: Iowa State vs. Minnesota (Minnesota gets the win)

Big 10 record: 4-3 (Win: Wisconsin, Northwestern, Michigan State, Minnesota. Loss: Nebraska, Michigan, and Purdue). 

EDIT: 

Without any sanctions, we could have been looking at something like this:

  • NCG: Ohio vs. ND (W)
  • Capital One: Nebraska vs. Georgia (L)
  • Outback: Michigan vs. South Carolina (L)
  • Gator: Penn State vs. Miss State (W)
  • BWW Bowl: Wisconsin vs. TCU (W)
  • Meineke Car Care: Northwestern vs. Baylor (L)
  • Heart of Dallas: Michigan State vs. Iowa State (W)
  • Pizza Bowl: Minnesota vs. Northern Illinois (L)

 

 

December 2nd, 2012 at 1:57 AM | Puff, puff, pass (Score:4 Normal)
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Puff, puff, pass

December 2nd, 2012 at 2:01 AM | From what I've seen (Score:5 Normal)
A2GoBlue
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of Michigan State, and from what I've seen of TCU, I would fully expect TCU to beat Staee by at least 10 points...

December 2nd, 2012 at 2:47 AM | No way in hell that Wisconsin (Score:2 Normal)
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No way in hell that Wisconsin vs. Stanford is a push. Wisconsin will be lucky to keep it competitive. Won't be able to rush for 600 yards against Stanford. I wish Wisconsin luck, but they won't be winning the Rose Bowl.

December 2nd, 2012 at 12:02 PM | I don't know - I would have (Score:2 Normal)
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I don't know - I would have said the same thing 5 weeks ago, but this Wisconsin team really really got destroyed by injury and by QB ineptidude and by coaching ineptitude. Stanford is a little overrated, and in my opinion; they don't have the kryptonite to this Wisconsin team. They don't have any gamechangers on defense and they don't have as much speed as, for example Taylor Martinez, or Mariota, or De Anthony Thomas. 

I really believe that they're going to bring their A+ game for this 3rd rose bowl of theirs. They can't afford to let another one slip away. I think they win in a great game.

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