turd ferguson

December 3rd, 2014 at 10:59 AM ^

So Bovada has Harbaugh (+200), Miles (+250), Butch Jones (+350), Mike Gundy (+350), and Greg Schiano (+450).

Personally, I'd flip Miles and Harbaugh, put a lot more space between Miles/Harbaugh and the other three guys, and have a "field" option that's also way more likely than Jones, Gundy, and Schiano.

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turd ferguson

December 3rd, 2014 at 11:04 AM ^

Still, these are a lot less dumb than what The Sporting News came up with:


Mock odds for next HC of Michigan
Les Miles 5/1
Greg Schiano 8/1
David Shaw 10/1
Jim Harbaugh 15/1
John Harbaugh 20/1
P.J. Fleck 25/1
Butch Jones  25/1
Lane Kiffin 25/1
Gary Patterson 50/1
Bob Stoops 50/1
Kevin Sumlin 50/1
Bo Pelini 50/1
Jim McElwain 75/1
Greg Roman 100/1
Mike Gundy 150/1
Cam Cameron 200/1
Tyrone Wheatley 500/1
Dan Mullen  750-1
Mike Shanahan 1000-1
Field 12-1

 
Mullen at 750/1 while Shaw is 10/1, Fleck is 25/1, and Kiffin is 25/1?  Right.  Nice work there, SN.

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Hannibal.

December 3rd, 2014 at 11:37 AM ^

They are probably just moving the odds to get equal amounts of money on both sides.  If these are the odds that people are actively betting on then it's a good sign, since markets have an uncanny ability to predict the future. 

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991GT3

December 3rd, 2014 at 11:04 AM ^

the Harbaugh family particularly Jack doesn't anyone find it odd and concerning that hackett has hired a search firm to help him hire a new coach? It indicates to me that Hackett may have made the inquiries and found that the Hartbaugh's are not interested in the job. Had there been a positive reaction there would be no need for a search firm.

The same argument would apply to les Miles. Hackett knows him well and if he was interested we would not need a search firm.

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mgolund

December 3rd, 2014 at 11:12 AM ^

A lot can happen between now and the end of the NFL season. For all we know Harbaugh said he's interested, but not until the end of his season. The end of his season is unknown at this point. That might not jive with Hackett's swim lanes. Personally, I am glad that he has a search firm if for no reason other than to be ready to move on a good alternate candidate should it be necessary.

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M-GoGirl

December 3rd, 2014 at 11:14 AM ^

who are saying "who is this Hackett guy?" and "why does HE suddenly have sole power to hire the next guy?"  There are still a lot of people out there who think Hackett is Furniture Guy replacing Pizza Boy. His main qualification besides being a successful businessman is that he played football for Bo Schembechler ... and Brandon could say the same, which didn't work well for us. I do think Hackett is a far superior man for the job than Brandon was, though.

The search "firm" could be just about anybody who knows what we want and are willing to give. They could conduct a stealthier search with more ease than Hackett himself flying the jet all over the country.

I suspect the search has been quietly taking place for weeks.

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michgoblue

December 3rd, 2014 at 11:19 AM ^

I wouldn't read so much into the hiring of a search firm. 

In fact, it is equally plausable that Harbaugh has already indicated interest, but has said that he will not formally accept until he finishes out his season.  That likely happens on 12/28, which is only 4 weeks from now.  The hiring of a search firm could be a move to (1) drag out the process to keep Michigan fans calm during this protracted period awaiting Harbaugh, and (2) have some good back-ups in place just in case Harbaugh changes his mind.

Another "reading into things too much" point re: Harbaugh:  Coaching searches for top jobs are usually wrapped up very quickly after the HC is fired.  Maybe not days, but certainly 2-3 weeks is common.  If we are looking at a 2-3 week period, there is no need to have DeBord act as interim football administrator.  They could just have Nuss do it and pay him a few bucks extra.  Naming Borges in this role to me indicates that they know that the vacancy might last for more than 2-3 weeks, perhaps until the end of the NFL Season.  Maybe I am reading too much into this, but it does make some sense.

Basically, ITS HAPPENING.GIF

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Red is Blue

December 3rd, 2014 at 12:09 PM ^

How would that work? 

 

DeBord:  "Hello this DeBord from Michigan, I'm looking to fill a couple of coordinator roles, are you interested?"

Prospective Coordinator:  "Didn't realize you had hired a head coach, who is it and why aren't they calling me?"

DeBord:  "Well, technically we haven't hired a head coach, but we've got someone lined up."

Prospective Coordinator:  "Interesting, who is it?"

DeBord:  "Can't tell you, but they want you as a coordinator."

Prospective Coordinator: click

DeBord: "Hello, hello you still there?  Damn, something is wrong with this phone because I keep getting disconnected."

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Paly33

December 3rd, 2014 at 11:04 AM ^

Their MOD's have said that there is a current Tier 1 college coach that is intersted in the job.  They went to say that this person would turn heads in the CFB world and would quell most angst if we didn't get JH.  They know the name but will not release who that is because they want to keep any specultaion off of him while we vet JH.  They also said that its someone that is not currently being discussed or mentioned on a "list".

I wonder who the hell that could be?  Dare I say Saban?! Lol

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turd ferguson

December 3rd, 2014 at 11:12 AM ^

There are a lot of assumptions required to believe that rumor.  The Rivals mods have to somehow know something, the coach has to be genuinely interested and not just seeking a raise, there has to be reciprocated interest from Michigan, etc.

If it is true, then it's best for us if the name doesn't get out.  We're in waiting mode for Harbaugh right now, unless we can get a clear, believable signal from him.  There's no better way to kill a good candidate than by forcing him to spend the next month denying that he's interested in Michigan.  See: Miles in 2007.

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Don

December 3rd, 2014 at 11:13 AM ^

I can think of no better way for the Rivals people to goose the number of clicks they get than to start a bullshit rumor about a current "Tier 1 coach" who they very conveniently can't name, which means there is no way to verify it one way or the other.

It might be smart marketing for Rivals, but I smell horsecrap regardless.

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michgoblue

December 3rd, 2014 at 11:23 AM ^

If we look at the two criteris: (1) tier 1, (2) would turn heads and quell most angst, there are only a few names that come to mind:

Saban

Stoops

Malzahn (who is drastically underpaid)

Meyer (not happening)

Dantonio (not happening, since he hates Michigan with every fiber of his being)

Miles

So. basically, Saban, Stoops, Malzahn or Meyer.  Who am I missing that fits all of those criteria?  Any of those would result in Muppets in these here parts.

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brewandbluesaturdays

December 3rd, 2014 at 11:37 AM ^

I believe you misunderstood Tier 1... I would put both of those as Tier 2. You might have point with Richt, but he seems to choke in big games and his teams always wind up farther down in the rankings their pre-season hype year in and year out...

I could be wrong, I've been wrong once or twice before.

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aiglick

December 3rd, 2014 at 12:43 PM ^

I would say he is Tier 1:

He has an overall record of 135-48 (.738)

8-5 in bowl games

He's 54 but has been a head coach for 13 years as well as an OC for 6 years which means he has tons of experience while still being reasonably young.

While not affiliated with Michigan he coaches at the Michigan of the SEC which is one of the few schools that run a clean program in that league. He is not in the SEC West but he is still in arguably the top conference in the nation. He would not be phased by playing in a conference with Meyer, Dantonio, and Franklin who are the main obstacles to getting to Indianapolis for the forseeable future.

He would definitely turn heads but I feel like he's been on and off the hot seat for many years in Georgia. Maybe a change in scenery would be good for both parties.

I'm not sure this is going to be happen but I would think we would be getting Lloyd Carr who has had to coach in the SEC so the difficulty level would be ratched down a few levels coming to our conference. If he turns Michigan around he cements his status. There is risk but it makes sense for both parties. IMO he checks all of Hackett's boxes.

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brewandbluesaturdays

December 3rd, 2014 at 11:31 AM ^

I've never understoon why he isn't brought up. Yes he's had massive success. However, he is underpaid massively, and he also sits in the shadow of tuscaloosa. Recently Auburn is up there with the best, but historically I wouldn't put the prestige of their football program quite on par w/ Michigan's. I would love to see a Malzahn or Sumlin style offense come to Michigan. 

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a2_electricboogaloo

December 3rd, 2014 at 11:43 AM ^

Malzahn is underpaid, but I wouldn't say drastically so.  His salary is still $3.85 million, which puts him as the 12th highest paid coach in the NCAA (or higher, depending on what source you go with), which is above some coaches like Gundy, Richt and Fischer.

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