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September 4th, 2011 at 5:21 PM | who the f is negging this? (Score:1 Trolling)
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who the f is negging this?

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September 4th, 2011 at 5:28 PM | I agree with much of that. I (Score:3 Normal)
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I agree with much of that. I would disagree about Rees though. He actually looked really good. He made a lot of perfect passes into good coverage. He only really made one really bad throw. the first interception he threw was off the helmet of his receiver who wasn't paying attention. The other interception he threw was into double coverage, and there really wasn't anywhere for him to fit the ball in, just a bad decision.

The turnovers are slightly overrated in this game. I heard Kirk Herbstreit say that the fumble return was a 14 point swing. He fails to realize that it was a 3rd down and goal, so even if there was no fumble, they probably would have settled for a field goal attempt. You can't say that it was a 14 point swing. 10 tops. Same thing with the interception in the endzone. That was a 3rd down play. Even if it were an incomplete pass, Notre Dame would have settled for a FG attempt. Obviously turnovers were a big deal in the game, but it isn't as bad as some people are making it out to be.

Also, the reason USF picked off a couple of those passes (not the one off the helmet) was because ND was making risky throws all game. They were high risk/high reward plays. When you are consistently squeezing the ball passed defenders and dropping perfect passes in between a linebacker and a safety, it isn't always going to go your way. If you take the incredible plays, you also have to take the interceptions as a natural consequence rather than a fluke (or cheap) play.

Yardage is also overrated. It was clear that USF was playing a very conservative game offensively, and their strategy on defense was to not give up the big play. Holtz even said as much: "we took the mindset, bend but don't break, bend but don't break, let's not give up the home run ball. I think Michael Floyd is a great player on film. I think he's a lot better than he is on film. I think he is one of the special players in college football. I think he's a difference maker. He is special. And because of him when we just turned and said let's try and make sure we keep him in front of them. Even trying to do that he still caught one later. But the whole mindset was bend, don't break. Our motto was make them snap it again, don't just let them in the end zone, make them snap it again. I don't care if it's a 20 play drive. They haven't scored yet if they don't cross that end zone. Don't let them in the end zone, make them drive the field, don't give them anything cheap. "

http://southflorida.scout.com/2/1102616.html

You can't measure the players performance purely on yards. Yards aren't all that important. Especially when you're playing with a lead and your trying to bleed the clock. Obviously ND played a great game - particularly Floyd and Rees. But the game wasn't as lopsided as the stats would indicate.

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September 4th, 2011 at 7:48 PM | Nice scouting report (Score:1)
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Good teams seem to get better every week.  I expect Michigan and Notre Dame to play better next week.  It will be interesting to view the game results against this report.

As a side note...  When I see a coach blowing up on the sideline, I get the feeling he did not have his team prepared. 

Michigan is going to build on their success, while ND is going to regroup to figure out where they stand.  I like our chances.

Go Blue!

 

Don’t look back. Something might be gaining on you.  -Satchel Paige

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September 5th, 2011 at 9:05 AM | Week 2 games are supposed to (Score:1)
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Week 2 games are supposed to tell you more about your team than week 1 games, past few years have been pretty accurate.

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September 4th, 2011 at 9:11 PM | Maybe I'm taking too much of (Score:1)
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Maybe I'm taking too much of a glass-half-empty approach, but I don't think ND's loss is good news for us. If they lost to USF because they suck, then we don't gain much from beating yet another overrated, overhyped ND team (and we would lose much more if such a team beat us). If they lost to USF because they just came out flat, then they'll be extra motivated against us. 

I don't know what it is, but ND's chronic mediocrity just frustrates me. 

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September 4th, 2011 at 9:32 PM | I'll take a win over ND, no matter how good or bad they are. (Score:1)
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I hate ND. Growing up in South Bend with ND fans always talking smack, bragging about nothing, complaining, whining, etc. tends to fester a strong hatred for ND.

Yep, that's Simba made out of a pineapple.

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September 4th, 2011 at 9:54 PM | True (Score:1)
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And it also  lowers the appeal of the game to a national audience.

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September 4th, 2011 at 9:14 PM | And let's be honest with (Score:1)
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And let's be honest with ourselves: we didn't shut down Floyd last year. I think it became apparent from the rest of the season's results that our secondary couldn't shut down anybody. Crist's injury and the poor play of ND's backups kept Floyd from being a factor.

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September 4th, 2011 at 9:30 PM | We held Floyd to only 51 yards last year. (Score:1)
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Granted it was all on only 3 receptions.

Yep, that's Simba made out of a pineapple.

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September 4th, 2011 at 9:49 PM | My Thoughts (Score:1)
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I feel really bad for Jonas Gray. I have always been rooting him on through college because he's from michigan and it would cool to see a guy from michigan make an impact to nd football. That aside I still dislike ND.

And for the whole Brian Kelly situation, there are ways you can and cannot compare it to Bo. I asked my dad, who played for Bo, if Bo ever got up in his face and called him an asshole and stuff. He told me he did all the time, but it was for motivation. Bo was someone you didn't want to let down, like a fatherly figure to my dad and all the other players he coached. The thing is Brian Kelly might not be looked at as a 'fatherly figure' by his players, so in turn his tyrant could be looked at as mocking and being a jackass. And you have to remember, if it wasnt caught on camera people wouldnt have known/cared about the incident. All im looking forward (and hoping) for is Notre Dame to get a good old fashioned ass kicking.

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September 4th, 2011 at 10:20 PM | True. When Bo was coaching, (Score:1)
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True. When Bo was coaching, there probably weren't as many cameras available to capture every moment of his sideline behavior.

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September 4th, 2011 at 10:59 PM | the reason ND didn't cancel (Score:1)
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the reason ND didn't cancel their game was because they were losing, and with all the ND hype it was amusing to watch them lose.

903 wins most in college football

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September 4th, 2011 at 11:10 PM | I have faith in Mattison to (Score:1)
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I have faith in Mattison to make all the ingame adjustments that can be made.  He can only do so much, but it sure does help to have an NFL defensive mind in there to know when to blitz and when to stay back.

903 wins most in college football

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September 4th, 2011 at 11:23 PM | I have a co-worker that is a (Score:1)
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I have a co-worker that is a ND fan and gave him some shit today and he told me he has already given up on their season.  If we stay focused and play fantastic defense Michigan should win 31-14 on Saturday.  That's my prediction.

Remember Who You Are!

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September 5th, 2011 at 8:54 AM | Amusing (Score:1)
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I have a colleague in Switzerland who is die hard ND fan, who basically said the same thing.  He is almost greatful that he won't need to find a way to watch their games overseas.  Although, we'll see if they ND somehow wins the game, his story will change.

As for Brian Kelly.  I don't think his tirade makes him a bad coach.  It is amusing to watch, but I think being overblown.  I also don't think it means he didn't prepare his team properly.  Sometimes no matter how hard you work, you can have a day like that.

And, I agree with an earlier poster, I would rather that ND wins that game if only because we now gain less from beating ND and certainly lose more if we lose the game.

I assume we will be favored by the oddsmakers.

WolverRoudy

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September 5th, 2011 at 10:35 AM | "Being an asshole is going to come back and bite him in the ass" (Score:3 Normal)
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How exactly does that work? Would be fun to see

“We have no rival. We are Nebraska.”

--Bob Devaney

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