Nukese Richardson
Former UM recruit, current Tenn RB Nukese Richardson has been arrested for armed robbery.
http://www.govolsxtra.com/news/2009/nov/12/two-football-players-face-ar…
But, he and a teammate Jansen Jackson held up some dude outside of a Pilot story near Neyland Stadium.
Sad story. Not looking to make fun of him or the Vols, but I know we all informally track guys UM kinda sorta recruited.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:22 AM ^
He can Kiff his schollie goodbye.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:22 AM ^
I think Richardson was from Pahokee. You can take the boy out of Pahokee, but maybe you can't take the Pahokee out of the boy...
*crosses fingers for Michigan's Pahokee kids*
November 12th, 2009 at 8:31 AM ^
For karma's sake, maybe I should not have posted this!!!
I guess a couple weeks ago, the kid almost left school because he was frustrated with his playing time.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:57 AM ^
Magnus: "You can take the boy out of Pahokee..."
That's just wrong, man. There are a hell of a lot more kids who come out of that troubled area, transcend their challenges and make a go of it as a college student-athlete than there are players who get themselves in trouble.
stereotype much? Please, be careful. Thanks.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:30 AM ^
"Effing Clowns. Get the he.. out of my state. I don't even want you in a Tennessee Jail."
That was really funny. The south is awesome.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:36 AM ^
The comments all the way down the line are simply priceless. My opinion of the state of Tennessee just went up a notch.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:41 AM ^
Weren't we also recruiting his accomplice, Mike Edwards ("Glenville's Finest")? Justin Feagin was a bust, but who knows, it could have turned out a lot worse for M.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:42 AM ^
Mike Edwards was in trouble with the law before he even left highschool. Wasnt he allegely charged with gross sexual imposition or something like that? I cant remember the charge but I do remember everyone dropping him like a hot potato.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:44 AM ^
the Torrence kid, that now plays for Akron.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:48 AM ^
Yea OSUs wideout's brother was a punk too....but Edwards didnt even sign a LOI with Tenessee until I think May waiting for the courts to play out.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:43 AM ^
Yes, we recruited Edwards and Richardson. Perhaps our coaches need to be a bit more careful with who they recruit. Richardson and Edwards could have just as easily ended up in Ann Arbor doing the same kind of stuff.
I know it's not a very popular opinion to talk about our recruiting in that way, but it's natural to wonder "what if?"
November 12th, 2009 at 9:02 AM ^
I had the chance to talk to a Div I revenue sport coach from another institution at a party and he said you are always trying to balance the risk and the reward. On the academic side, maybe no one ever required much and they can and will step up in your environment. On the "social" side, maybe it's who they hung with and being immature. The risk comes when you get too many of these projects and they drag each other and some of their more suggestable team mates down.
Not a Vols fan, but I do not enjoy seeing the turmoil surrounding their team.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:44 AM ^
Magnus. I sense just a tad bit of racism out of you. Remember the last time we went through this when you stated you didn't like Cissoko as a person because he committed a crime. Lets not throw stones. Sometimes people do stuff they shouldn't do, but the circumstances may possibly be something you know nothing about.
Just take it easy on these kids, they may come from horrible situations that most of us never could imagine. Who are you to judge. Who the hell knows what you would be doing in the same situation. Lord knows I got in enough trouble with 2 great parents, lots of money, and a high IQ.
As stated on this board before. I think is says much more about a coach if he can actually take a "bad" kid and make something out of him as a man. I'm not saying you should purposefully take a bad actor just because he can ball. But you can also do something really great if you take a kid from a horrible situation, show him a good one, and have him make a change for the better.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:58 AM ^
I respect Magnus as one of the most football knowledgeable people on this board but have had an arguement or two about this with him before. What I don't see is what it has to do with racism though?
His arguement with me (in the past) was that kids like this don't deserve a chance at UM (which I disagree with in some situations) but was never dealing with race. In fact in one of our debates he named at least one questionable white kid that RR recruited in WVU I believe.
What has race got to do with this?
November 12th, 2009 at 11:35 AM ^
people always look for racism? Nothing he said was racist. I HAVE to be pc all the time. Get over yourself.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:50 AM ^
of any young man, it makes me sad. I wish they would have made better choices. The sad thing is, they didn't see any other choice. If there was one experience I wish these young men would have had before they got into this mess is that of delayed gratification.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:55 AM ^
are you kidding me! These young men are given everything once they get out of high school. These young men were not justin feagins. They were 5* athletes the best of the best, high chance to play in the NFL, now they are going out and commiting armed robbery. Sorry goodbye they didn't steal a shirt or a pair of shoes! These young men are going to get everything they deserve
November 12th, 2009 at 9:50 AM ^
"These young men are given everything once they get out of high school."
Like what? I honestly dont know. I think the schools make out better than the athletes but that is another topic.
"They were 5* athletes the best of the best, high chance to play in the NFL"
I agree with you..thats why I whish they would have learned delayed gratification...it would have took some time but there was a great chance that they would have gotten there.
November 12th, 2009 at 11:28 AM ^
what you are saying really I do. It's just that, these kids are given the opportunity of a lifetime not only to play FOOTBALL at a very high D-1 level, but also to recieve a FREE!! education. Do you understand that I had a 3.7 GPA and a 27 on my ACT and I did NOT get into michigan. Had I recieved entry into Michigan it would of cost me over 30,000 dollars a year to attend.
I just get frustrated with kids like nukese and janzen, also kids like feagin. Even if they never played a down and turned into bust they still could get a unbelievable education. Then they repay the institution by COMMITING ARMED robbery, ARMED that means with a gun or knife. Thats just pathetic and I am sorry that I could give a shit about them. Sorry to put it bluntly my feelings.
November 12th, 2009 at 11:42 AM ^
would you be bitching like this if a academic scholarship biomedical engineering major committed a crime like this? i doubt it
November 12th, 2009 at 12:04 PM ^
No you wanna fucking know why cause he earned it academically. He didn't recieve a scholarship because he can run freaking fast with a football in his hand, you seem to forget people that run this world are not football players. They recieve free education because they are good at a SPORT! Oh and another thing had a biomedical engineer did this his ass would of been kicked out of Michigan in 5 minutes
November 12th, 2009 at 11:36 AM ^
Like getting a burger at No. 9? : )
November 12th, 2009 at 8:51 AM ^
were basically 5* that sucks really bad for them. Oh and lets see if this makes national news
November 12th, 2009 at 8:53 AM ^
I dont know if the story will make the national news on its own merits, but it certainly should based on the comments by the Tennessee fans.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:36 AM ^
is misleading. 'former recruit' implies that he at one point committed to M and didn't end up signing here.
Am I right?
November 12th, 2009 at 9:42 AM ^
Don't think so. Recruit doesn't imply commitment.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:59 AM ^
Everybody, given your username, I believe you are especially qualified to chime in on this one.
Also, do you think Terelle Pryor will speak up in their defense?
Wasn't Richardson actually a Florida commitment? I do believe he was.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:59 AM ^
I can see what you're saying, but I don't think it's that misleading. There's not really a good term for it. I guess you could say "former recruiting target" but that sounds kind of lame.
I imagine that "former commit" is for people who committed at some point and "former recruit" does not.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:31 AM ^
Robbery is one thing, armed robbery quite another. I don't want to sound naive but assuming we are talking guns where do they come from? That's what really scares me.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:39 AM ^
The article claims a search of one of the suspect's cars turned up a pellet gun, those come from Wal-Mart or Dick's Sporting Goods.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:43 AM ^
and BB guns? who will they go after next...Ralphie Parker?
November 12th, 2009 at 10:57 AM ^
Apparently one of these guys watched National Lampoon's Vacation one times too many.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:56 AM ^
Please be more careful before you start accusing people of racism. I don't take that charge kindly.
What did I possibly say that could make you think I was being racist? That I hope our coaches should perhaps be more careful with who they recruit? I never said anything about race. The fact that YOU made the connection between that statement and me implying that we shouldn't recruit black kids (at least that's what I'm assuming you inferred, since you didn't really say it) is a bit far-fetched. You're reading what you want to read, not what I write.
Meanwhile, regarding the whole Cissoko situation - Cissoko was kicked off the team, acted inappropriately on the football field, and had a run-in with the Ann Arbor police. I said I didn't like him as a result of those things. What does that have to do with race? If Jordan Kovacs or Craig Roh or Mark Ortmann or Tate Forcier did the same things, I would have the same opinion.
What I do know is that, regardless of one's upbringing, you shouldn't hold up a store, especially when you have a full ride scholarship that pays for room, food, tuition, etc. and could possibly help you earn millions of dollars.
In short, go fuck yourself.
November 12th, 2009 at 10:04 AM ^
You and I have debated what types of kids should be allowed to play at UM in some past threads and disagreed. At no point in time did I ever get the impression any of your arguements were based on race, and I don't here either. Don't know where he got that impression from.
November 12th, 2009 at 11:38 AM ^
Seconded
November 12th, 2009 at 11:45 AM ^
edit: damnit, again
November 12th, 2009 at 3:25 PM ^
"You can take the boy? out of Pahokee, but maybe you can't take the Pahokee out of the boy?..."
Maybe you meant all the white people in Pahokee? I'm not sure. Hence I said detecting a tad bit. Instead of calling you a close minded, high horse riding, son of a bitch like you are.
Two separate times you have said you don't like people because the messed up. KIDS. They are fucking kids, who may or may not have been taught better. Regardless of what you may think, some times decision making is harder if you have not been brought up with strict rules and punishments.
Now I know lots of people will disagree with me, but sometimes good people do bad things. Especially when they are 18-19. I have been around tons of great people who have done really bad things. It just happens sometimes. So all I am saying is lay off. You have no right to judge anyone. But from the sounds of it you believe there is right and wrong, if you do the right things you are a "good" person, and if you do the wrong thing you are a "bad" person. It doesn't work like that.
So you can go around calling people who do drugs, or break the law "low lifes" like Rush Limbaugh. Or you can actully consider why things happen. Or or, you could take the 3rd option and go fuck yourself.
November 12th, 2009 at 3:37 PM ^
When else have I said I didn't like someone besides Cissoko? Regardless, I don't care if they messed up - that doesn't mean I have to like them. What kind of goddamn hippie are you that believes everybody has to like everybody no matter what they do with their lives?
Cissoko did not make A mistake. He made a pattern of mistakes. His pattern of mistakes was so egregious that a coach - who's kind of on the hot seat and has absolutely zero cornerback depth - booted his starting cornerback off the team. Regardless, I never called him a bad person or a lowlife.
Now...on the one hand, I said I didn't like a guy who made a pattern of on-field (showboating, shoving Michael Floyd) and off-field (getting in trouble with the police, getting booted off the team) mistakes. On the other hand, you called me a racist.
But you know, when somebody's comeback is basically "You told me to go fuck myself? No no no...YOU go fuck YOURself" then they're probably not worth the argument.
November 12th, 2009 at 3:50 PM ^
haha This is going no where, the reason I said "I was sensing a tad bit of racism", is because you first comment is basically racist.
Annnnnnnd the reason I said "go fuck yoursel"f, wasn't because I wanted to have a comeback. I wanted to point out what a retarded child someone would have to be to put something like "go fuck yourself" on a message board. But when someone can't even get that I'm making fun of them for posting something like that.... then well they're probably not worth the argument.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:48 PM ^
but arguing w/ Magnus is like arguing with a wall. You won't get anywhere.
November 12th, 2009 at 10:06 AM ^
Thanks, Blue in Yarmouth.
November 12th, 2009 at 10:08 AM ^
I live in Knoxville and have seen both of these guys play. Nukese had been frustrated with pt and there has been a lot of speculation about him transferring. But I really can't see where frustration with football can lead to robbery.
For UT, losing Jackson would be huge. All of us UM fans have wanted to see some of our freshmen on defense, and I only hope that they could play like Jackson. This guys has shown great ability as a true freshmen, and a NFL scout on a local radio show mentioned that Jackson looked like a future NFL player. Very sad to waste such a bright future.
Also, it is sort of funny to watch the Kiffin situation develop. Before his first game this guy was making a total ass of himself anytime there was an opportunity. Now after a rough start the Vols are playing better and better each week. I have to give it to Lane's staff because I have never seen a UT team play with such energy and heart. I wish that somehow we could steal/borrow some of this energy and unleash it against Wisky and tOSU.
Oh, the south is kinda awesome in a "hey you go occupy space and consume resources in a Kentucky jail" sort of way.
November 12th, 2009 at 10:09 AM ^
My comment was directed at the fact that Pahokee is a terrible area, and therefore the circumstances make it difficult.
In other words, it looks like the Pahokee area might have claimed another victim, and I hope the kids at Michigan can continue to succeed.
I really didn't mean it in a negative way. I was saying I'm pulling for Odoms, Hawthorne, Smith, etc.
November 12th, 2009 at 11:47 AM ^
make what difficult? how? this seems like backtracking. and you still didnt explain what "the pahokee" is that needs to be taken out of them, or why.
November 12th, 2009 at 11:43 AM ^
edit: misplaced
November 12th, 2009 at 11:50 AM ^
It's not backtracking. Read the following article:
http://www.michigandaily.com/content/life-death-and-football-story-unli…
November 12th, 2009 at 4:47 PM ^
Magnus, I don't think you're racist. But I understand where people found issue with your comment about "You can't take the Pahokee out of the kid". First, EVERYONE in Pahokee is black (obviously, not literally everyone, but you get my point). Second, it's sort of fatalist view - you're saying that these kids CAN'T get better - it doesn't imply you're rooting for Odoms, Jones, Hawthorne, and Smith - it makes it sound like you're resigned to the fact that they're going to fuck it up. Maybe that's not what you intended, but it's certainly what I read.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:56 PM ^
I honestly don't know what the racial make-up of Pahokee is.
What I DO know is that it's not a good place.
If people regard that comment as racist, they're reading too much into it.
Anyway, I put "*crosses fingers for Michigan's Pahokee kids*". Usually when people cross their fingers, it means they're hoping for something. I assumed people would understand that it meant I was hoping those kids don't do the same sorts of things, but maybe that's expecting too much of an intellectual leap.