I thought that myself when I read that article that talked about a Data Scientist(tm)
Notre Dame radio analyst says something stupid
Notre Dame might have wannabe criminals, but their starting QB can't outrun the cops (or taxi drivers) and some of their players might "have people", but we've yet to see anything else.
Maybe with some questionable recruiting Kelly can get them past the white and nerdy level.
That's almost as good as Criqui's crushing defeatism duing last year's UTL game.
...his statement, "and he's a poor thrower..." then Denard completes a "poor throw" to Gallon.
Denard is going to have torched ND for over 1500 total yards in the three games he has started against them. "Poor thrower" seems like a failed description. Denard owns ND. Love it.
My favorite part is the absolute denial of the TD. "Incomplete" His pal chimes in that they signaled a TD... still in denial.
If you're listening to the broadcast on radio, you KNOW the guy scored. You don't need the PbP to figure that out.
"This is incredible. Michigan's gonna score". The tone of his voice is so telling. His heart is breaking at that very second. mmmm...
He didn't do a very good job of describing the play to his audience, though. Remember, he's a radio announcer. Try listening to it with your eyes closed. For several seconds, you can't tell what's going on while he starts blubbering on about how "this is hard to believe."
Lol sucks to be a ND fan. The last 3 years we've scored go ahead TDs with 11, 28, and 2 seconds left.
poor thrower has become the meme and I'm not sure it's justified. Consider:
WMU: 9/13 (69.23%) 98yds 0TD/0INT
ND: 11/24 (45.83%) 338yds 4TD/3INT
EMU: 7/18 (38.89%) 95yds 2/1
SDSU: 8/17 (47.06%) 93yds 0/2
Minn: 15/19 (78.95%) 169yds 2/0
NW: 17/26 (65.39%) 337yds 2/3
MSU: 9/24 (37.50%) 123yds 1/1
Pur: 9/14 (64.29%) 170yds 0/1
Iowa: 17/37 (45.95%) 194yds 2/1
ILL: 6/10 (60%) 92yds 0/1
Neb: 11/18 (61.11%) 180yds 2/1
OSU: 14/17 (82.35%) 167yds 3/0
This looks to me like a kid adjusting to a new offense. His numbers are actually down from 2010 but you can see the numbers get better as the season goes on. Over the last 8 games of the season he only has 2 games below 50% and 3 games above 65% the other 3 are low to mid 60's.
DRob 2011 - 142/258 (55.04%) 2173yds 20/15 139.7 rating
Henne 2007: 162/278 (58.27%) 1938yds 17TD/9INT 130.5 rating
There was no meme about Henne being a poor thrower yet his senior season numbers were only slightly better than DRob's last year. Not sure I call that justified.
Yeah, but Henne was hurt for a good part of his senior year so those stats are a little misleading.
203/328 61.9% 2508Y 22TD 8INT 7.65YPA
62% 2500Y and 7.7YPA, in short (INT ratio dropping to 36% of TD's, also). The question is whether Denard can get his numbers there.
Need, More. Schadenfreude.
Will pay good money.
Speaking of Schadenfreude, after the game last year, my sons and I went over to some ND blogs and drank in the despair. One Irish fan said that after the game, he took his aquarium out to the street and poured all his fish out onto the pavement. That was epic.
I have heard in days and it's not even close.
and oh how I loved the irony of that last drive in conjunction with his stupid commentary
I could replay that video over and over all day. In fact, I think I will. Thank you so much reminding me.
I didn't know Don Criqui tears tasted so sweet.
By now, they probably see Denard in their nightmares. It's wonderful.
I love how he didn't seem to have any confidence ND would win the game, even with us pinned at our own 20 with 23 seconds left. When Denard completes the long pass to Gallon, he doesn't even seem surprised.
This is like the Tate TD run. Every time I see it linked, I have to watch it.
As an aside, I'm always impressed by the fact that Manti Te'o (sp) nearly ran down Gallon. That guy's an athlete.
you don't have to have criminals for your team to have an edge to it
I don't agree with his premise, but it's great that he picked out Ohio State as an example of a team with criminals.
Not everybody is the perfect person in the world. Everyone does... kills people, murders people, steals from you, steals from me.
the man speaks the truth...
Quit picking on OSU's shining example their student athletes. The kid was Academic All-Big Ten and an honor student. /s
I understand the point he was trying to make, but he did a horrible job of saying it. No, you don't want actual criminals on your team you idiot. But yes, you do want guys with a mean streak (who stay out of legal trouble).
Good: Kalis; well documented mean streak but no trouble with the law.
Bad: Tyrann Mathieu; in trouble and eventually kicked off the team.
Sounds like he needs to hear about the towel drill
Well, MSU's consecutive 11-win seasons would seem to lend support to the theory.
"Catholics vs. Convicts" (when they played Miami -- YTM). Now I guess it will be Catholics Recruiting Convicts.
Although I agree that good football teams need players who "have an edge," I don't agree that you need to be a criminal in order to "have an edge."
But, hey, if he is suggesting that ND players need to go out and break the law and risk suspension in order to bond and better themselves as a team... I'm all for it
f'd up players who will give your coach and team headaches and not end up playing, etcetera.
Equals recipe for success!!!
team chemistry is important, but you would think it would be more important to have a coach who knows WTF they are doing and doesn't look like he's about to spontaneously combust whenever something goes wrong. Just a thought...
The McNeil and Spiegel show is on 670 the Score, not am 1000 (ESPN). However, it would be easy to mistake the two because ESPN Radio has been slobbering all over the Irish the last few days. I try to make it a habit of not listening to ESPN while I'm driving around.
DO'H! Don't know why I put 1000. Thanks.
Well, ND had a repeat-offender at WR and a QB who drunkenly fought with the police over the summer, and went 8-5. I'm not saying they need Dahlmer at ILB, but I'm not sure how many more "bad seeds" they need to get into the BCS top 12.
I'm sure the admin loves hearing their coach is recruiting potential criminals to spend 4 years in South Bend.
Then how would he explain Stanford. They are truly a bunch of do gooders who run you over like a Mack Truck. I have yet to see criminal convictions from the Cardinal.
Also, Notre Dame fans, staff, and administrators regularly make moronic comments about everything under the sun including race, grades, admissions, and their perceived unappreciated greatness fro playing Navy every year. ND is full of the bull stuff.
In fairness, Stanfords best defensive player got a dui in the offseason so maybe they are on the Pinkett plan too.
“I don’t want any mass murders or rapists. I want guys that maybe get caught drinking that are underage, or guys that maybe got arrested because they got in a fight at a bar, or guys that are willing to cuss in public and don’t mind the repercussions of it. That’s the type of criminal I’m talking about.” - Allen Pinkett
This is Notre Dame - there are standards, after all.
There are plenty of great teams throughout the history of sports that had guys who were edgy, or indeed, complete assholes, but that's still a far cry from having, or even wanting, outright criminal behavior from people on the team. I would actually contend that people such as those Pinkett is describing erode chemistry, become a distraction and can potentially cause teams to perform below their capability. They will destabilize the team, the staff and may very well end up being a component in the downfall of a coach.
Then again, I would rather hope that this was Pinkett making a poorly constructed allegory, the "criminal" merely representing the notion of "edge". Further, as some have mentioned, Notre Dame regularly plays and sometimes loses to a school or two without a distinct criminal presence.
"Notre Dame radio analyst says something stupid" = "the sky is blue."
Not everybody is the perfect person in the world. Everyone does -- kills people, murders people, steals from you, steals from me.
HA! I always wondered what that call musta been like.
And while they're at it, they can replace touchdown Jesus with touchdown Satan...wtf is wrong with people...
So this guy was a big Miami (YTM) fan ?
Also geniuinely stupid attitudes like this are why I am paying less and less attention to sports.
Out of a two-deep and an injury report, you really know all you need to appreciate the action on the field for any set of teams. Media hype does not add to my enjoyment of a sporting experience.