Not good news re: Trey DePriest

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April 6th, 2010 at 10:56 AM
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Not good news re: Trey DePriest

Sam Webb said both today and yesterday that DePriest *may* move his commitment up to sometime before his senior season. This would be bad news for U of M, since DePriest has said that he wanted to see how they did on the field this year. OSU and Alabama are his leaders right now. It will be very important if Michigan can get him in for the spring game...Below is Webb's explanation yesterday (starts around the 5:20 mark):

http://www.wtka.com/index.php?fuseaction=home.podcasts_sel&id=4516

I'm posting this b/c it's news and to maybe soften the blow if Michigan is cut from his list in the near future. I don't mean to be a doom-and-gloomer, and I leave you with the following:

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Professor: Yes I would, Kent.

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April 6th, 2010 at 11:00 AM | I'll be more concerned (Score:1)
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closer to signing day. Not to doubt the kid's word when he gives it, but we all know how recruiting is.

April 6th, 2010 at 11:02 AM | Dude, it's April. Stop (Score:1)
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Dude, it's April. Stop freaking out.

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April 6th, 2010 at 11:14 AM | not sure if this came through (Score:1)
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My Kent Brockman reference was meant to suggest that we not freak out...I'm just passing on news.

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April 6th, 2010 at 11:21 AM | I know. It was preemptive for (Score:1)
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I know. It was preemptive for posters like mrider.

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April 6th, 2010 at 11:04 AM | Depriest was an unlikely (Score:1)
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Depriest was an unlikely target from the start, especially when his coach says the Alabama and OSU came and told him he was their number 1. If we are trying to pull blue chip recruits, we better go balls out like we did with Dorsey, Garnder etc... Anyway hopefully we get him for the Spring Game in Ann Arbor, if he comes I think we will be right back in it. If not I think we know where we stand we Trey.

April 6th, 2010 at 11:07 AM | You know Dorsey wasn't even (Score:1)
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You know Dorsey wasn't even thinking about Michigan until about a month before signing day. We weren't going 'balls out' for him last April.

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April 6th, 2010 at 11:16 AM | Dorsey was also committed (Score:1)
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Dorsey was also committed elsewhere. Completely different situation, plus Depriest with all his offers will cut down his list soon according to Sam Webb. You think if Michigan doesn't show him a lot of love he will keep them around on his list? I doubt it, and judging by his coaches comments, I doubt his coach thinks he will keep Michigan on his list much longer unless they make a change.

My point is simply, if the guy has winning program high on his list, and factoring his location OSU, and Alabama seem like they would have an advantage in that over Michigan. Plus add that to the fact Alabama and OSU are recruiting him harder then Michigan that's not a good sign.

April 6th, 2010 at 11:18 AM | FWIW (Score:1)
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I think Michigan is recruiting him as hard as anybody. Webb just makes it sound like he has a really good relationship w/ one of the guys at Alabama and that Michigan's recent losing is working against them.

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April 6th, 2010 at 11:23 AM | "He likes Michigan. Michigan (Score:1)
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"He likes Michigan. Michigan has not just shown up with the M on his chest and said here is your scholarship will wait on you"

April 6th, 2010 at 11:36 AM | Huh... (Score:1)
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That's from his coach? I was under the (maybe wrong) impression that Michigan had him very high on their list.

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April 6th, 2010 at 11:55 AM | I think they have him very (Score:1)
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I think they have him very high on their list, but maybe the schools are just giving him a lot more attention. It's possible, I mean maybe Beyer, and Zettel, Dee are taking priority as trying to get in them in the fold soon. I don't doubt Michigan is recruiting him hard, but the other schools might just being going harder.

April 6th, 2010 at 12:57 PM | Why did you stop there? (Score:1)
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If you're going to use a quote from his coach you should frame it in it's proper context.

"He likes Michigan. Michigan has not just shown up with the M on his chest and said here is your scholarship will wait on you"

The rest of it goes thusly:

"...They did not take that approach. That’s how some schools have taken it. Michigan is more involved. Ohio State, Alabama, Michigan and Notre Dame are the four schools that are actively recruiting him."

I don't like posting Scout $$$ content but it seemed necessary in this case.

April 6th, 2010 at 11:19 AM | Far be it from me to speak on (Score:1)
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Far be it from me to speak on anyone's behalf, but I think Dave's point was, it's April. Chill out.

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April 6th, 2010 at 11:31 AM | Plus add that to the fact (Score:1)
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Plus add that to the fact Alabama and OSU are recruiting him harder then Michigan that's not a good sign.

You can't just make shit up to support your crazy hypothesis.

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April 6th, 2010 at 11:36 AM | I heard that Saban gave him a (Score:1)
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I heard that Saban gave him a Members Only jacket, and he really likes the salisbury steak at OSU. Bad news for us.

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April 6th, 2010 at 11:53 AM | I'm not making shit up for my (Score:1)
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I'm not making shit up for my purpose. I am saying this after reading his comments from his coach. He basically said that Michigan until very recently hasn't really been in as hard as Bama and OSU.

April 6th, 2010 at 12:17 PM | that'll happen (Score:1)
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when you don't break contact rules, saban and tressel aren't exactly choir boys when it comes to NCAA recruiting rules

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April 6th, 2010 at 12:21 PM | I hate that (Score:1)
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I'm not talking about Tressel and Saban in particular, but if I had a nickel for every time a recruit said he was talking to coach so-and-so yesterday - during a dead period - I would have a lot of nickels.

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April 6th, 2010 at 12:22 PM | Funny thing now that you (Score:1)
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Funny thing now that you mention it, his coach was like OSU is around all the time. Then back tracked and was like well no more then is allowed, but they know what is going on.

I lol'd

April 6th, 2010 at 3:30 PM | not that unlikely (Score:1)
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I believe he came to our camp as a Junior

April 6th, 2010 at 6:19 PM | balls out for (Score:1)
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balls out for recruits....

that just doesnt sound right

go blue go

April 6th, 2010 at 11:06 AM | I know DePriest is a very, (Score:1)
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I know DePriest is a very, very good player.

But if he doesn't commit to Michigan, big deal. There are thousands of available football recruits every year, and Rich Rod has shown that he not only can secure the commitments of high level defensive players (Marvin, Cullen, Justin Turner), but he can also find and get commitments from players who may not be guru-approved but play the game well (Jake Ryan, Vinopal, Carvin Johnson), and he also can pull the Signing Day surprise (Barnum, Roundtree, Stokes, Q, Denard, Demar Dorsey).

I am concerned 0.0% if DePriest goes elsewhere.

April 6th, 2010 at 11:08 AM | I will be 0.0% concerned if (Score:1)
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I will be 0.0% concerned if he goes to Alabama, but if he goes to OSU that would be a blow, a minor one, but a blow none the less.

April 6th, 2010 at 11:20 AM | Maybe we can wait (Score:1)
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on deciding if Ryan and Vinopal "play the game real well" until they actually play a game.

Johnson has guru approval, he just got it later than most.

April 6th, 2010 at 11:22 AM | Uh, so being the best player (Score:1)
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Uh, so being the best player on state title winning teams does not qualify a kid as "playing the game real well?"

You've got some pretty high standards.

April 6th, 2010 at 11:27 AM | I'm sure there are plenty of (Score:1)
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I'm sure there are plenty of MVPs of high school championship teams that didn't do jack shit in college.

Vinopal's high school accomplishments don't automatically make him a great catch for the Michigan Wolverines.

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April 6th, 2010 at 12:10 PM | Neither would DePriest's. So (Score:1)
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Neither would DePriest's.

So we're basically arguing about nothing, as usual.

But I'll wait for you to get the last word in and win the "argument."

April 6th, 2010 at 12:19 PM | good, thanks for waiting (Score:1)
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You're choosing to miss the point.

You're right that high school accomplishments don't guarantee anything, but the point is that Vinopal being the best player on a state championship team is irrelevant.

And that also shows nothing about Rodriguez's ability to recruit. If anyone on this board watched a state championship team for a game or two, we'd be able to identify the best player. That doesn't mean that the best player deserves a major FBS scholarship offer.

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April 6th, 2010 at 11:27 AM | I don't think RR's goal (Score:1)
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is a roster filled with impressive High School resumes.

My point, obviously, is that RR doesn't deserve a pat on the back (yet) for unearthing college players that fall beneath the radar and standards of the gurus. At least at Michigan, where he has the option of going with higher rated players.

April 6th, 2010 at 2:57 PM | Devin Gardner's team lost the (Score:1)
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Devin Gardner's team lost the state championship to Lowell. . .did Lowell have a single D-1 player? Wasn't their QB, who had a great game, like 5'8"?

The team, the team, the team. Teams can win championships without all-stars.

April 6th, 2010 at 11:25 AM | "...he can also find and get (Score:1)
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"...he can also find and get commitments from players who may not be guru-approved but play the game well (Jake Ryan, Vinopal, Carvin Johnson), and he also can pull the Signing Day surprise (Barnum, Roundtree, Stokes, Q, Denard, Demar Dorsey)."

This all sounds well and good, but you have no idea if Ryan, Vinopal, Johnson, etc. can "play the game well." That's pure speculation.

And other than Roundtree and perhaps Denard, those signing day surprises haven't helped Michigan in any significant way on the game field.

Rodriguez's recruiting is still a big question mark until these guys start producing on the field.

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April 6th, 2010 at 12:12 PM | I have no idea if Ryan, (Score:1)
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I have no idea if Ryan, Vinopal or Johnson play the game well, other than the comments of their coaches, their opponents' coaches, etc. Absolutely right.

So, really, those three are in the exact same boat as Demar Dorsey, Cullen Christian and Marvin Robinson.

So, uh, we're not arguing about anything we can prove for years. Sounds worthwhile.

I'll wait for you to respond so you can "win" this "argument."

April 6th, 2010 at 12:25 PM | It's clever how you end each (Score:1)
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It's clever how you end each comment with "I'll wait for you to respond so you can win this argument."

That almost makes up for the fact that your comments in this thread have no substance. It's basically saying, "You're so stupid that you're going to argue the same subject that I'm arguing vehemently as well."

Good times. So remind me again...if you don't care about recruiting, why are you reading these threads...?

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April 6th, 2010 at 12:48 PM | I'm trying to break the (Score:1)
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I'm trying to break the record on how many bikini-wearing female avatars we can get into one thread.

April 6th, 2010 at 1:01 PM | About time you did something (Score:1)
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About time you did something useful.

April 6th, 2010 at 12:48 PM | no offense but (Score:1)
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u must not know a lot about recruiting if u dont care where DePriest and other big time recruits go. there are thousands of football recruits every year but how many are brandon graham? not a lot. its a lot better to take the big time, polished recruit who can give you solid time his freshman year rather than the 3* recruit with good potential from a physical standpoint but he needs to redshirt to learn the system or needs a year to bulk up. there arent a lot of DePriests out there, you should take one wen they come along.

u said that u are concerned 0.0% if depriest goes elsewhere. now ur saying that u dont care if he goes to ohio state. if he goes there, hes gonna be probably starting against you for at least 2 years. if u dont get a recruit u have to root against ur rival in terms of securing the recruit.

Hook 'em Horns

April 6th, 2010 at 1:36 PM | And evidently, you must not (Score:1)
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And evidently, you must not know a lot about the shift key, apostrophes, or spelling.

Seriously, if DePriest goes to Ohio State, good for him. Why the hell should I worry about something that might tangentially affect my life for 3 hours every November, starting in about 3 years? DePriest is good, absolutely.

Devin Gardner will be better, at least, as a Michigan fan, that's what I'm banking on.

Ohio State always has good players. So does Alabama. That's the game. Michigan has to beat them, and will.

April 6th, 2010 at 7:03 PM | the whole (Score:1)
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"ohio state always has good players" is the point of recruiting. theyre recruiting these good players, like DePriest, every year. michigan should be trying their best at getting these high level recruits that would otherwise go to schools like ohio state and alabama. last year, you did this in getting DD out of florida. if u dont recruit the big time recruits and let them go to ur rival without trying to stem the flow, then ur basically giving ohio state success. no one wants that, right?

as to devin gardner being better: i hope he does too but he wont have his chance for awhile due to tate and DROB being sophomores. DePriest, if he commits to Michigan, will probably have the opportunity to get PT as a freshman and POSSIBLY start(im not gonna pretend that i know enuf about ur depth at OLB to say that hes a surefire starter). and u cant really compare the success of a QB to a LB.

Hook 'em Horns

April 6th, 2010 at 8:11 PM | If you're not worried about (Score:1)
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If you're not worried about something that will affect your life for 3 hours on a Saturday, why read the post? I think we're all worried about that. Sure, I know a lot of people that don't get worried about how Michigan football plays, or how their opponents play, but those people don't spend their time reading a college football blog. If you don't care, then don't care.

I don't go on a recycling blog and say shit like "why should I care if the ozone may or may not be slowly depleting?" or "why should I care whether or not I'm contributing to the overfilling of landfills?" No, I don't. I care what happens on when M plays football. All of the times they play it, in fact. So I care where Trey DePriest goes to college.

April 6th, 2010 at 11:22 AM | I can't wait until 2013 when (Score:1)
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I can't wait until 2013 when we are posting topics about how bad ass Jake Ryan is.

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April 6th, 2010 at 2:52 PM | And I'll be the one posting (Score:1)
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And I'll be the one posting sixteen candles jokes in that thread. Only 3 years away baby!! wooo!!!

April 6th, 2010 at 11:24 AM | Thanks for the link (Score:1)
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Its good to know that I shouldn't get my hopes up with DePreist. Disappointing to hear that the "other" big LB recruit in the region probably won't end up at Michigan, though I think our need for LB recruits has been overblown quite a bit. Hopefully the 3-3-5 thing has people a little more calm about our LB situation.

April 6th, 2010 at 11:41 AM | What a surprise; a topflight (Score:1)
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What a surprise; a topflight recruit isn't totally crazy about a team that has gone 8-16 the last 2 seasons. Recruiting won't really pickup for us until toward the end of the season where hopefully we make a bowl game; otherwise it's all downhill. Pointless to get caught up in recruiting too much this year due to the upcoming season being extremely critical.

April 6th, 2010 at 11:50 AM | As you may know... (Score:1)
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The reason to think that U of M has a chance is that he grew up a fan.

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April 6th, 2010 at 11:50 AM | This is spot on. The (Score:1)
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This is spot on. The recruiting will always be there somewhat because of the history and the overall profile of UM, but until this team starts to win on the field, I don't blame top kids from passing on UM. This is especially true considering all of the negative press the school has been receiving recently. Now, if RR and co. go out and win 8-9 games, then all will be forgotten and the top recruits will again come running.

April 6th, 2010 at 11:50 AM | Don't forget Depriest's family background (Score:1)
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Among Webb's comments was that Depriest comes from a family of strong Buckeye fans. While family affiliations never guarantee that any recruit will go to a particular school, it obviously is not in Michigan's favor in this case. Saying that Michigan isn't recruiting him hard strikes me as a baseless assertion, but I also assume that they know what they're up against and have other irons in the LB fire.


April 6th, 2010 at 12:14 PM | I know this is going to sound (Score:1)
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I know this is going to sound crazy, but maybe RR and staff like our stable of young LB's and aren't putting a TON of emphasis on that group this recruiting season. I would argue that O linemen and a nose tackle or two are the highest priorities, and we have a small number of spots we have available. Combine that with the fact that RR knows that he needs to win THIS YEAR and maybe he's not spending the time with recruiting that he usually would.

With young guys like Demens and Bell getting good press at the LB spots, along with Mike Jones and the guys like Kinard and Jake Ryan that we brought in last year, it could be that LB isn't as giant of a need as we thought it was.

April 6th, 2010 at 12:33 PM | I really hope you're right. (Score:1)
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I really hope you're right.

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April 6th, 2010 at 12:19 PM | There's still a lot of time (Score:1)
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There's still a lot of time between now and September. I'm sure DePriest is getting very sick of the recruiting process, and wants it to be over with. The coaches have been recruiting DePriest for a long time, and if he still truly wants to play for Michigan, I'm confident they can convince him to push back his commitment timeframe.

April 6th, 2010 at 12:29 PM | ...or convince him to change (Score:1)
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...or convince him to change his commitment. He said he likes Michigan, he wore an M shirt to an OSU camp. It's not like he's going to commit to a school and then live under a cave until February. If he likes M, even a little, he'll be following us during the season, and it's not like Michigan doesn't get noticed when we're doing well. If we have a good season, he'll consider us and he'll hear from RR. If we have a poor season, it won't matter whether he's committed already or not.

The way I see it, if we have a good season, we're still in it with DePriest, if we don't, we won't be. What he does recruitment-wise before then is almost irrelevant.

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