can they play linebacker? or maybe safety?
can they play linebacker? or maybe safety?
Good to know St. Dantonio runs such a tight ship, unless the guys a starter that is. *cough cough* Glenn Winston *cough*
I don't know if you meant to refer to him as Saint Dantonio, but I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
I love how they add in at the end that Nick Hill is also coming. Not to mention he is the #46 RB in the nation.....
i wonder if dantonio will stop recruiting running backs from the lansing parole office now.
Hey, don't hate, obviously he owns the state, and that includes the state pen.
+1's to whoever has any idea what I'm talking about
The two guys dismissed, Caulton Ray and Andre Anderson, both appear to be back up running backs. Neither of them were rated very high.
Apparently they are still in the school. Odd that it doesn't say why they were kicked off the team.
Caulton Ray was essentially a starter at the beginning of the year, but he is/was buried now.
Ray's year actually mirrors Cissoko's somewhat. At the beginning of the season he was playing a fair bit, and his playing time decreased and then disappeared.
Unless they killed a guy, I'd imagine they are pretty pissed about the Winston double-standard.
Not that serious. Everyone murd ...
well, 1 player was kicked off the UM team for skipping class.
so, 2 players were kicked off the MSU team for... thinking about skipping class?
therefore, i demand 3 players be kicked off the UM team for attending class unenthusiastically.
No good man. State would just kick four guys off for attending but taking illegible notes. I mean, we all know what follows Go Green Go White.....they've got it wrapped up already.
to 97.1 when the change over from the karsch/anderson show went to valenti/foster. gator brought up the topic of the 2 kids being dismissed from the team, and they asked mike if he knew what was going on. he basically pleaded the 5th. so there could be a good chance that they kids did something really stupid or they weren't going to class.
Noticed that CRMB added Cissoko to the "Rodriguezed" threat, and one of the first posts was whether or not he would sign with MSU and if it would open up a pipeline to Cass Tech.
What I never understand about schools (and UM is guilty of this as well) is why they are so interested in nabbing kids kicked off other football teams. I understand that sometimes there are factors that may explain the dismissal, but if it is true that Cissoko wasn't going to class and was missing out on practices and study tables, I'm not sure going to a different school (but with the same pressures) is really going to help. Sure, the academic standards may be a bit more lax at another school, but it's not like he was being asked to study nuclear engineering or gain admittance to the b-school. Of course, if he does wind up going to MSU because UM was too academically rigorous, it would certainly be a backhanded compliment to MSU.
All of these kids might need to take a break from football for a bit and figure out what they want to do with their lives, and if playing D-1 football (and all the accompanying responsibilities) fits into that goal. You wish everyone the best, but being an athlete at D-1 school requires you to be on your game all week, not just on Saturday.
That's true. I have a hard enough time figuring out what I want to do with my life, and I don't have any sports to deal with.
They also have Jason Forcier and Bill Martin on that list.
I'm pretty sure it's tongue-in-cheek, especially Martin, but with the RCMB you never know...
They should really just start listing anyone who leaves the school, even some random professor in the history department who decides to retire. The list is starting to look like one of those bad SNL sketches where the joke just keeps getting hammered and hammered until it is impossible to laugh. Kind of like everything they did in the late 90's.
Like everything SNL did in the late 90's, or MSU. I guess both work.
the entire 2009 graduating class. I'm pretty sure they all left under RR's watch.
He's a destroyer of lives!
They also repeatedly claim to be the best 4 loss team in the nation, but Tennessee would anally abuse them.
i didn't realize that there was a trophy for best .500 team in the nation. good for them. i hope they win it.
Well, according to CFN.com, MSU fans are correct. Sparty is rated as the #21 team by CFN.com in their latest rankings. That's right, 4-4 MSU is the 21st best team in the country, folks.
It is going to be funny when they add Warren to that list when goes pro early.
I didn't neg ya though
That's hilarious. Well, Coach D-Bag has a reputation as an authoritative figure to preserve. He can't be outdone by that corner-cutting hotshot down in Ann Arbor.
one of the few battles I want state to win
by kicking two guys off the team who did far less than the better player....who is an ex con. nice move jackass.
Am I missing something? It doesn't mention anywhere that I've seen anywhere on the internet that the two were dismissed for doing any wrong. Every interpretation I've read is that they aren't getting playing time so they want to transfer to another school where they have a chance to play.
Where the hell did this idea that they broke rules come from?
maybe we're assuming too much.
If a kid comes and says I want to transfer after this sememster I would think you dismiss them immediately.
I agree that we might be jumping to conclusions, but it seems weird that kids would say they want to transfer with about a 1/3 of the season to go. You may be right, but usually they stick around until the end and then figure out about future playing time (which is the likely cause of a transfer).
That could be. The guys at The Only Colors were wondering what so long themselves. Most college transfer deadlines are in the next few weeks. Perhaps they were just putting in ample thought on the transfer and waited until the last minute. I mean, one of them was a projected starter before the freshman class came in and took there jobs (tuk der joabs? [/southpark]).
Still, jumping to the conclusion that they are thugs that are being dismissed from the team when not once does it say anything remotely close to that in the article is a bit over the top [/understatement].
good point. as of now there is no official comment as to why they were removed from the roster. i will update the thread title to reflect actual truth instead of imagined.
You sure it wasn't because of a deterioration of family values under Dantonio? From what I've read in the past that's the "only" explanation for why a player would transfer.
these kids either did something worse than Winston.....or.....Dantonio has a HUGE double standard problem now to explain to his players...(and the media, though they'll never ask).
Either that or its possible the AD stepped in here and said "ok Mark you got your one free pass but these guys have to be disciplined harshly."
well, if it turns out that these guys are just transferring, i guess it will finally answer the question about glenn winston: for him to be removed from the team, he would've had to assault someone, be convicted of misdemeanor counts of assault and battery and aggravated assault, spend 180 days in jail, AND request to transfer.
I have a buddy who is a manager on MSU's squad and he said it was because the kids refused to bring fur-covered condoms into Dantonio on Sunday.
I heard it was because they refused to pat his bottom:
UM will never win a battle with MSU over removing marginal players from the team; MSU has an entire roster of marginal players to choose from.
If only we had a real man like Tate Forcier, we wouldn't have to settle for crappy two stars like this guy. Paul Something, his name was.
You better be happy with Paul Whatshisname because he is the only recruit you have managed to bring in the past 20 years. Maybe you should set your sights on Biggy Mctentitle or Nationaly McChampionsips (I believe they are both Irish recruits)
interesting that D'ton thought a Spartan still had his hands on the control when he expressed surprised how Iowa could get all of those plays off and still have 2 seconds left for the 4th down play. I seem to recall another game with a similar outcome in the same end zone which resulted in a rule change removing the homers from the clock controls.
I doubt he was serious. Just something to take attention away from his game management that has led to a .500 season in his 3rd year.
But he has had 2 winning seasons......in a row!
And they were the first consecutive winning seasons since the last years of Saban.
Two more than Richie Rich has.
By the way, isn't next year your National Championship year? I seem to remember that sentiment being rather prevalent last year.
Break your near-two decade drought on Big 10 titles and then we'll talk.
You have been hanging around on the Freep and Mlive boards too much. Here the fans and posters aren't nearly as stupid. Since RichRod and UM are so horrible, why don't you name me 1 win this year that MSU can hang their hats on. 1 win that signals this year isn't a total disaster up to this point. I'll wait.
Is this guy banhammer-worthy? Yeah, he's been a member for a while, but all he does is troll.
Coach, I'm gonna quit. You never told me i'd have to burn my couch! I mean damn, it's all the furnature I got!
don't worry we arent your rivals though
you're just 3rd on the list. Ahead of Minny, though. As of next year we resume dominance. Guess you'll be back to a basketball school then.
Just like last year it was next year. hahahahha let's see how Tate is feeling. Poor kid is getting hurt every game. But hey he did lead a TD winning drive against INDIANAA!!!!!!!!!!! May the Forcier be with yoU!!!!!
Shouldn't you be worried about your own overrated injured QBs brah? In his 3rd year, Dantonio has taken a significant step backwards - maybe you should discuss that with your fellow Spartans. I know I know, you just love his 20-14 record though!
I wouldn't call this year a step backwards. Last year we were a 7-5 team that got 2 bounces their way making us 9-3. It was smoke and mirrors. I wouldn't call Cousins over rated. To be over rated you have to have hype around you first. And I would take Dantonio over Richrod. Is his 8-12 record supposed to be impressive?
You lost to CMU at home and are 4-4....how is that not a step backwards from 9-3?
Are you trying to tell me that all the Spartans who predicted a possible B10 championship this year were not saying Cousins or Nichol was head and shoulders above any of our QBs?
And I am glad you would take Dantonio over RichRod. Most Spartans would. That is why you will be mediocre for quite some time - you put Dantonio up on a pedestal while he is slightly better than John L Smith (he has a whopping 2 more wins than JLS at this point in their respective MSU careers) and getting worse as he gets more of his recruits in place. Head back over to Spartanville because you just look stupid when you say this year isn't a step backwards for D'ton.
this year in that most of us expected to lose with the transition and young players. This year we hoped we could pull it out, and just about did. Did you even go the game? Or were you sitting on your mom's couch. Either way, enjoy your State of Glory for the next 10 months (if you guys can get bowl eligible) because the long slide down starts next year. You know it does.
BTW, let's take a look at that for just a minute:
You beat lowly Montana State 44-3 for 1-0
You lost to Central Michigan 29-27 for 1-1
You lost to ND 33-30 for 1-2
You lost to Wiscy 38-30 for 1-3
You beat Michigan in OT for 2-3
You beat Illinois 24-14 for 3-3
You beat NW at home 25-14 for 4-3.
You lost to Iowa at home 15-13 for 4-4.
How's the rest of the schedule look:
You get a tremendous break by not playing OSU. But you're still left with:
At Minnesota, which you should win, but could very well lose. Minnesota is at home and they're better than Central.
Home vs. Western. Well, you already lost to Central, so anything's possible. But, I'll give that you. So there's your 5th win.
At Purdue. Could go either way. Purdue will probably be favored by about 3 points.
Home vs. Penn State. My money has Penn State as the best team in the big 10. You could beat them. They will be favored by a touchdown.
I'm betting you split them for a fine 6-6 finish. Probably a win less than Michigan. Of course, you could easily finish at 5-7, especially if Minny shows up this weekend (doubtful without their qb, but you never know). If State goes 6-6 or 5-7 with their schedule in and out of conference this year, that may go down as the single worst meltdown in college football this year. Weren't you all predicting a championship without playing OSU and with that genius D'ton?