Northwestern or Penn State?

Submitted by SpikeFan2016 on

This upcoming Saturday Northwestern plays Penn State at Noon in Evanston.

Given that our best win thus far came against Northwestern and going forward our best opportunity for a "good win", excluding The Game of course, is at Penn State, I was trying to decide who I'd like to win this one from the viewpoint of what's best for Michigan's resume.

Background: I expect this to be a close game. Penn State has looked better during October, but Northwestern definitely started the season on a stronger note. Also, the game is in Evanston and Penn State has only had to play one true road game (they were blown out in Columbus; they also lost a de facto neutral site game to Temple and barely squeaked by terrible Maryland in front of a mixed Baltimore crowd). Finally, last year Northwestern blew out Penn State in Happy Valley. 

 

On the one hand, you want our Northwestern win to look as strong as possible. Northwestern currently sits at 6-2 with remaining home games vs Penn State and Purdue, an away game at Wisconsin and a neutral site game at Solider Field vs. Illinois. Thus, Northwestern seems like they have a floor of 8-4 (Purdue and Illinois) and a ceiling of 10-2 (I view the PSU game a toss-up. Def will be underdogs in Madison, but they beat the Badgers last year as well). I think that Northwestern may need to win out to be ranked at the end of the season, especially if Duke remains unranked. It's possible that they'd be ranked at 9-3 if they lose closely to Wisconsin or PSU, but given how badly they were blown out by Michigan and Iowa, it may be difficult. 

 

On the other hand, it could be great to beat a ranked PSU team on the road during the final two weeks. However, I feel as though it's not certain that beating Northwestern would have PSU ranked given they still sit behind a few other teams in the "others receiving votes" category. Penn State also has a bye on November 14th, so they don't get a chance to boost themselves the week before. Also, as much as it pains me to say it, I see almost no chance that PSU beats Sparty in East Lansing to close the season, so, assuming that we beat them (don't want to think about the other way around, even though it's definitely possible) there's no way they'd finish ranked. Finally, Northwestern beating Penn State could leave the Nittany fanbase in a sour state over a long two weeks (because of the bye) that may damage the energy/emotion in the White Out. Any lessening of the crowd intensity, even if it's marginal, could bode well for our offense. 

Overall, I am inclined to root for Northwestern. What do you think?

BlueinLansing

November 1st, 2015 at 4:09 PM ^

in October, but who have they really played?  And have really looked that good?

 

Army, Indiana, Ohio State, Maryland and Illinois.  Army was close,  Ohio State ended up running away from them and they beat Maryland by a single point.

shoes

November 1st, 2015 at 4:23 PM ^

but I agree with those that think it doesn't make a significant difference since we play both teams and what is 99.8 percent important is what we do from here on out. I will pull for Northwestern who already owns the best non confernce win (Stanford), who I like better and  against the team that is in our division.

gwkrlghl

November 1st, 2015 at 4:39 PM ^

It's better for us to have PSU win because that gives us a shot at a road win over a ranked team. Many nationally have long forgotten about the M-NW game

Cali Wolverine

November 1st, 2015 at 4:53 PM ^

that one at the end of the year against Ohio State? Nobody will care about our win against Northwestern or (hopefully) Penn State if we beat the number one team in the country.

flashOverride

November 1st, 2015 at 6:01 PM ^

The victimhood complex of Penn State fans ranks second only to Mark Dantonio's as the worst in all of college football. I'll always root for Penn State's opponent. 

Swazi

November 1st, 2015 at 6:31 PM ^

If PSUs OL hasn't improved much since Temple (and seeing how awful they were against OSU they haven't much) I can see NU dominating their offense.



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SpikeFan2016

November 1st, 2015 at 8:51 PM ^

Northwestern's other loss (Iowa) was by a much bigger margin than BYU's (UCLA), but I also think that Iowa is a better team than UCLA.

 

Plus, Northwestern's wins are much better. They beat Stanford and Duke. BYU beat Boise State and Nebraska, but Northwestern also beat Nebraska so that cancels it out. 

 

We'll see how the rest of the season plays out; BYU doesn't really play anyone else of merit, besides maybe a bad SEC team in Missouri, whereas NW still has Wisconsin and Penn State. 

Mgodiscgolfer

November 1st, 2015 at 10:13 PM ^

Seems to me that the recruits want to see UM win. So the more wins UM piles up the better the team looks when its time to commit. The thing that makes it tough is they must beat the teams they recruit against. If you lose to a team you recruit against or can't play you must still have a better final ranking and bowl offer than teams that they recruit against. 

If you build it they will come....