Some big noon games today, including MSU @ Iowa, Nebraska @ PSU and OSU @ Purdue, among others
no, YOU'RE off topic
Herbstreit says all he can think of when he hears UM/ILL is last years 67-65 game. Not mentioning it was in 3 OT, he then says it will be an ugly game for the winner. Wow, thanks for your insight, douche. (he said this earlier about the winner winning ugly, not during their pick segment)
Can you see this ILL offense scoring 65 points? I sure as hell can't.
[Not really ours, either. Especially if Hoke and Co. decide to really stick to power running for 2/3 of the game a la Iowa]
Especially if we break up the rhythm with Denard running that two quarterback set. Free Denard!
Herbstreit says all he can think of when he hears UM/ILL is last years 67-65 game. Not mentioning it was in 3 OT,
Are you implying that it was the just the three OT sessions that made the game look like a putrid defensive outing? 45-45 in regulation isn't much prettier.
Putrid, yes, but there's a difference between putrid and the worst defensive game in the history of college football. 65 points is more than any losing team has ever scored in regulation (at least in D1).
PSU is gonna crush 'Braska today.
Now if only MSU could lose too...
I think $party will lose. lets go IoCAW and Penn St.
For some reason I feel like Purdue might sneak a win out over Ohio.
This was too emotional to watch... I hope Penn State wins. It's a sad feeling when your whole world collapses around you and to fight back and win one for the university at this time and bring unity and togetherness would be just perfect.
Yeah it was tough, these poor kids at Penn St. I'm seriously pulling for a B1G 'ship for these boys, especially if MICH can't win it.
I want to see McNutt torch them all day.
So are they going to play football or pray all day?
I turned on the tv when the players were circling up at midfield to pray. What happened before? Was this planned?
Very emotional. I really hope Penn State can crush Nebraska on senior day.
If we win out, Nebraska is no threat to us in the division so it does not really matter to us if they win today or not. Personally, I want them to win so it looks better when we beat them and because I do not want PSU anywhere near the B1G championship game.
Purdue driving early.
Very nice to see Nebraska and PSU meet to pray. In a week that has been almost more focused on Joe Paterno than the victims, its good to see the players show their respect for those kids.
Spielman sounds Eeyore-level down and droopy every Saturday. I don't even want to know how bad he's going to sound calling the Penn State game.
Tom Rinaldi is insufferable.
One if the most emotional seens ive ever seen on a football field when both teams prayed together for the victims. Well done guys... Well done...
I had no idea Urban Meyers father died yesterday. Per the game announcers. Terrible to hear for him.
I guess that explains why he wasn't there with them last week either.
OSU goes 3 and out.
Purdue drives down easily and gets a FG
Boiler Up ... or ... something like that.
B.J. Cunningham TD reception, MSU 7 IOWA 0
damnit msu up 7-0 early
Sparty is MANBALLing Iowa down the field. Easy TD. Gonna be a long day for Iowa.
Really carved up the Iowa D on that drive.
Jeebus Martinez just got crushed.
another 3 and out by osu
It didn't even look like Miller was attempting to pass on that 3rd and 12.
Their school helped cover up the molestation of little boys. They don't deserve any redemption for that. The players may not have had anything to do with it, but coaches, administrators, and the school at large did. They certainly don't deserve any catharsis just because the players are caught in the crossfire. Penn State playing for/winning the title would be an embarrassment to the whole Big Ten.
They can lose by 50. They in no way have "suffered enough" as a community.
Completely agree. I don't feel sorry for Penn State whatsoever, and I hope they get killed by Nebraska. Have Penn State as the Big Ten champ this year would be a disaster.
have either been fired or are leave. You people are applying collective guilt to a whole campus and that is wrong.
I don't think anyone feels sorry for teh administrators, BUT this isn't the players fault, they didn't do a thing wrong, and if you can't feel sorry for them for having to go through something like this then you suck as a human.
And if the people who helped facilitate their victimization get some comfort by the same thing that comforts the players, it's not worth it. It's been a bad week for Penn State. Considering what was done to little children that will scar them for life, not bad enough; and a week not long enough. After they've cleaned house and a new season comes, then MAYBE they deserve "a healing moment". Certainly not yet.
These people are holding up "this one's for you, Joe" signs. The players are collateral damage. But they've hardly suffered so much that they're "owed" or "deserve" a victory. Because the school hasn't earned any redemption yet.
No matter how much time passes redemption will not come from what happens on the field.
However, a sense of normalcy can start to return. This game should be cathartic for the community at large. That some of the guilty will also solace makes little difference to me. They are but a tiny portion of a larger community. My empathy is for the gat majority. I do to wish to see them suffer for the despicable acts of a few.
The game could do it with a win or a loss. But people were rooting for them to win.
You'll have to provide facts for that rather ridiculous assertion. The coaches and administrators did that is true. But the entire school? I don't think so.
If not the President? And the 50 years at the University head coach?
If you're asking if I think the dorm lunch lady was involved in the cover-up, then no.
But you said the whole community, which would include people who had no involvement.
No man or woman is representative of an entire entity. No one. To blame the entire PSU community for acts they were unaware of, much less condoned, is flat out wrong.
Collective guilt ought it exist in today's world.
And makes coaches believe they are above having to report this stuff? That the program image is more important than doing the right thing?
The "community" has shown an outpouring of support not primarily for the victims, but the people who have been fired. And rioted over it. This is hardly a "community" with perspective and remorse.
You guys are having an interesting debate, but I think I agree with M-Wolverine. Your view seems to lead to some odd conclusions. For example, when a program is caught cheating (OSU, USC, etc.), is it illegitimate to cheer against them just because the majority wasn't involved? When a program displays MSU-style dirty play that seems to be endorsed (or at least tolerated) by the coaching staff - but most players play cleanly - is that not reason to root against them?
I like the point above about the players being unfortunate collateral damage. At PSU, a whole lot people (other than Sandusky) acted inappropriately, and that includes extremely central, powerful figures and a major part of the community as a whole.
But you don't understand!! My neighbor who is a PSU fan wasn't apart of it so it's not their fault!!
You mean your neighbor was a part of the scandal?
players being unfortunate collateral damage.
includes extremely central, powerful figures
And they've been canned. They're gone. And they won't be the last ones fired and there will probably be some people going to jail in addition to Sandusky.
Cheering against PSU is rather pointless at this point, IMO. At this point with the coaching staff gutted and the major persons involved fired, rooting against PSU is just rooting against the current players. They didn't do anything wrong.