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Non-Conference + Indiana, 2010 v. 2009

Since the 2010 schedule is so similar to the 2009 schedule, I figured I'd compare where we are now to where we were a year ago.  The below numbers compare our four out of conference games and Indiana:

Passing Offense
2009: 198.8 yds/game, 24 passes/game, 60.4 comp %, 9 total TDs
2010: 240.6 yds/game, 24 passes/game, 73.1 comp %, 9 total TDs

Rushing Offense
2009: 284.4 yds/game, 46 rushes/game, 18 total TDs
2010: 324.4 yds/game, 46 rushes/game, 20 total TDs

Passing Defense
2009: 225.2 yds/game, 6 total TDs allowed
2010: 307.8 yds/game, 8 total TDs allowed

Rushing Defense
2009: 126.6 yds/game, 6 total TDs allowed
2010: 125.8 yds/game, 9 total TDs allowed

Sacks
2009: 6
2010: 7

Interceptions
2009: 4
2010: 7

So the split is exactly the same on offense: 24 passes/46 rushes per game.  Same gameplan.  The offense is 80 yards better than last year (split evenly beetween the run and pass), though that has only translated to 2 additional TDs.  The defense is 80 yards worse, ALL OF IT attributable to the pass.  This has translated to an additional 5 TDs allowed. Same record each year: 5-0.  Close games with ND and Indiana.

 

This is...a bit sobering.  The good news (I guess), is that our many problems have been whittled down to one: the pass defense.  The bad news: we have no immeadite solution to that problem.  The next 7 games are gonna be tense.
 

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October 3rd, 2010 at 1:57 PM | It is pretty crazy that we (Score:1)
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It is pretty crazy that we have the exact same amount of pass/rush attempts.. Really tough to tell if we will be that much better until we start playing better teams in conference.

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October 3rd, 2010 at 3:30 PM | Kovacs is one of the best (Score:1)
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Kovacs is one of the best players on the defense this year, moron.

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October 3rd, 2010 at 5:36 PM | This. (Score:1)
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This.

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October 3rd, 2010 at 2:09 PM | Intersting stats, but I don't (Score:1)
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Intersting stats, but I don't agree with your implication that because our stats in non-conference games plus Indiana was similar in '09 and '10 that the rest of the season will be.  I don't think our main problem in 2009 was increased competition, but the lack of production from our offense. 

Points per game in non-conference + IU '09: 42.6

Points per game in conference - IU '09: 20.1

Whether that is the result of better defenses from the opposition or some other problem, I don't really think that this offense will face the same issue.  With Denard at the helm, this is arguably the best offense in college football.  You couldn't say the same thing last year.  I don't deny that there are going to be some tight games and I won't argue that we'll get more than 8 wins, but I truly believe that the offense will keep us in any game this year.

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October 3rd, 2010 at 2:11 PM | We didn't start last year (Score:1)
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We didn't start last year 5-0.

Omnia mutantur nos et mutamur in illis.

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October 3rd, 2010 at 2:14 PM | Yeah, but we were undefeated (Score:1)
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Yeah, but we were undefeated against the same group.  The next seven games are going to show where progress has really been made.

It's all John Navarre's fault.

 

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October 3rd, 2010 at 2:38 PM | But we didn't start off 5-0 (Score:1)
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But we didn't start off 5-0 last year. We may have won all of our non conference games and the Indiana game last year but starting out 5-0 with 2 road victories is a lot different. I guess what I am saying is that, "Yeah, but" doesn't apply.

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October 3rd, 2010 at 2:43 PM | The OP was still comparing (Score:1)
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The OP was still comparing the same five games from last season.

There is a difference, and this team is obviously better, but the next seven games are still going to be the real test of how far Michigan has come.

It's all John Navarre's fault.

 

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October 3rd, 2010 at 5:11 PM | Well, it was not the same group (Score:1)
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It was UCONN, ND on the road - which is not like playing at home...And UMass is better than Del State - 

Offense is better, defense is probably worse...if that is possible. 

 

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October 3rd, 2010 at 7:04 PM | this (Score:1)
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Also, UConn is much better than Western, and BG is better than Eastern.

The execution at the OL, QB, and WR positions is far better than it was last year.

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October 3rd, 2010 at 2:16 PM | Good point.  Forcier (Score:1)
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Good point.  Forcier definitely lost a lot of steam after the MSU and Iowa games.

 

The other caveat is that our schedule was probably tougher this year.  UConn, UMass and Indiana have much better passing offenses than their 2009 counterparts.  Notre Dame is worse (with a new coach and without Tate and Clausen), but they still throw the ball a lot.  There's some hope that we will be able to limit Penn State, Illiinois and Purdue's passing offenses.  SOME hope. 

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October 3rd, 2010 at 2:21 PM | Another interesting (Score:1)
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Another interesting comparison would be the strength of the rest of the Big Ten between this year and last. 

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October 3rd, 2010 at 3:10 PM | Sagarin 2010/1/7 vs 2010/10/2 (Score:1)
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From http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc09.htm and http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc10.htm

Team 2010/1/7 2010/10/2
Michigan 67.18 81.82
Michigan State 73.28 79.92
Iowa 85.82 84.92
Penn State 85.43 78.83
Illinois 64.37 72.14
Purdue 68.60 64.81
Wisconsin 81.21 77.74
Ohio State 88.35 89.87
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October 3rd, 2010 at 2:27 PM |  Forcier definitely lost a (Score:1)
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 Forcier definitely lost a lot of steam after the MSU and Iowa games.

 

After?  He played probably his worst game of the season at Iowa.  If he'd played an average game, we'd have most likely won.  Our run game kept us in that one. 

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October 3rd, 2010 at 2:23 PM | Three things (Score:1)
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1.  The competition we've faced this year is better than what we faced last year.  Last year, we faced an average MAC team (WMU), 6-6 ND, a horrible MAC team (EMU), a horrible I-AA team (DSU) and a 4-8 IU team.  All of these games were at home.

This year, we've faced a 3-2 Big East team (UConn), 2-3 ND team (which I think will finish better than 6-6, but we'll see) on the road, a good I-AA team (UMass), a bad MAC team (BGSU), and 3-1 IU (I think they'll finish a couple games better than last year, but again, we'll see) on the road. 

2.  Last year we were seriously derailed by offensive injuries.  I don't know why people keep downplaying this.  We played the whole conference schedule without our best offensive lineman, played about half of it without our best tailback, another half without our #2 tailback, and the last seven games with a gimpy QB who couldn't throw deep or with velocity.  These seriously affected our performance last year. 

3.  With Denard at QB, and with the OL and WRs a year older, we're simply better this year.  Last year's offense was never ranked anywhere near the national leaders. 

In short, relax - our O is legit and will win us some games. 

 

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October 3rd, 2010 at 3:42 PM | To point #1 - comparasion of (Score:1)
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To point #1 - comparison of Saragin ratings:

2009
WMU - 57.31
ND - 75.31
EMU - 44.11
Indiana - 63.56
Delaware St - 39.65
AVERAGE - 55.99

2010
UConn - 72.96
ND - 74.75
UMass - 67.62
Bowling Green - 61.29
Indiana - 65.87
AVERAGE - 68.50

So yeah, the competition has been significantly better this year.

To points #2 and 3, who is downplaying injuries and Denard? The numbers show that our offense is 80 yards/game better.  The issue is that our defense is 80 yards/game worse, which calls into question how much this team has improved, overall.  For the record, I'm a big RichRod supporter and I'm optimistic.       

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October 3rd, 2010 at 2:24 PM | The difference between the (Score:1)
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The difference between the two teams is that this year's team has an identity - a dynamic offensive unit that can hurt your running or throwing the ball.  Last year, it was all Tate magic and broken plays with a bad defense.  At least this year, every team on the schedule knows that they'll have to score 25-30 points to keep up, and that will cause them to press, to go for it on 4th down, and make the mistakes that can let the defense off the hook.

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October 3rd, 2010 at 2:24 PM | Turnovers (Score:1)
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I haven't looked but I think one of the biggest differences between the 2 years is I'm yelling "HOLD ONTO THE DAMN BALL!!!" at the tv a lot less this year.

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October 3rd, 2010 at 2:30 PM | The thing us if UM goes 3-4 (Score:1)
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the rest of the way that will mean a 8-4 record. UM does not even have to play average ball the rest of the way to achieve a satisfactory record.

The team, the team, the team.-Bo Schembechler

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October 3rd, 2010 at 2:32 PM | one thing not accounted for (Score:1)
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I think an "efficiency" metric (points or yards per possession) is likely a better measure of comparison. I think our defense looks worse, statistically, because of all the quick scoring by our offense. I'd bet our defense's performance isn't so terrible (relative to last season) when the number of possessions are accounted for.

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October 3rd, 2010 at 3:20 PM | I don't have stats for each (Score:1)
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I don't have stats for each possession, but I can show you this (again, including just the 4 OOC games and Indiana):

Total Time of Possession
2009: 141:51
2010: 144:52

Total Plays From the Line of Scrimmage
2009: 351 (231 run, 120 pass)
2010: 347 (228 run, 119 pass)

So the tempo on offense is almost exactly the same. RichRod is nothing if not consistent.

 

Edit: On Defense -

Total Plays from the Line of Scrimmage (Opponents)
2009: 335 (161 run, 174 pass)
2010: 378 (172 run, 206 pass)

So even though the time of possession is the same, the defense is seeing an extra 8 plays/game, 3/4 of which are passes.  That is significant.  This was heavily skewed by the yesterday's game - Indiana threw the ball 64 times.
 

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October 3rd, 2010 at 2:44 PM | I think an "efficiency" (Score:1)
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I think an "efficiency" metric (points or yards per possession) is likely a better measure of comparison. I think our defense looks worse, statistically, because of all the quick scoring by our offense. 

I'm with you on this, but I think we'ld still see some sobering numbers.  The next 7 games are going to be tense, but with our offense we can at least expect some entertainment.  I wouldn't be surprised to see our numbers decline somewhat on offense, and improve somewhat on defense over the next couple of games, just because of the type of teams we're playing.  

I'd be happy with 3 wins over the next 7 games.  4 wins or a Win over OSU would be fantastic.

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October 3rd, 2010 at 2:56 PM | The hope train I'm riding (Score:1)
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Relies on the assumption that our defense is as good (or bad) as last year and that our offense is much improved. I respect your opinion that our efficiency per possession may not make things look any better. I just choose to ignore it.

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October 3rd, 2010 at 3:20 PM | We had 0 road wins last (Score:1)
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We had 0 road wins last year

We have 2 road wins this year

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October 3rd, 2010 at 3:34 PM | Since the 2010 schedule is so (Score:1)
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Since the 2010 schedule is so similar to the 2009 schedule, I figured I'd compare where we are now to where we were a year ago.

Seriously?  You think the 2010 schedule (so far) is similar to the 2009 schedule to this point?

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October 3rd, 2010 at 3:52 PM | Viable options (Score:1)
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Although a little sobering at least this year we have a solid back-up (or two) if the starter goes down.  I think that alone gives us an edge compared to this same point last year.

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October 3rd, 2010 at 7:10 PM | Stats . . . (Score:1)
XXII
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Joined: 09/15/2010
MGoPoints: 380

 . . . throw them out the window. We are better this year-- period. The D sucks, but the O more than makes up for it.

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