No wonder MSU is MSU

Submitted by winterblue75 on

You lose to Nebraska, and your DC has to bring up Michigan

Chris Balas @Balas_Wolverine

Narduzzi on Martinez: "He's faster than Denard, even though he thinks he's as fast as (Usain) Bolt. (Martinez is) flat-out faster."

edit: I guess in some fairness, he was asked to compare Martinez to Robinson. But to bring up the Bolt reference is just plain douchebag.

Mmmm Hmmm

November 4th, 2012 at 9:50 AM ^

Exactly.  Setting aside the debate as to whether coaches should have the power to keep their student-athletes off of twitter, I am not sure what good can possibly come of the players being on twitter.  Once they are identified as student-athletes at a particular institution, they expose themselves to a third party finding a tweet, which can be amplified, twisted, or misrepresented well beyond what the player intended. 

I know on the Rivals board some posters have said things to the effect of "well, Michigan players make poorly thought-out statements on twitter/facebook too."  I have no doubt that is the case (my only exposure to twitter is when other people post about tweets), but just more evidence that twitter + 18-23-year old athletes who are not necessarily media-savvy = not good, not good at all.

jmblue

November 4th, 2012 at 11:54 AM ^

Have our players tweeted things like this - disrespecting the refs and opposing teams?  I don't remember reading any (and I imagine they'd have made the press if so).  I get the sense that our players fear the repercussions from Hoke if they tweet more than MSU's (apparently) do from Dantonio.

dougr188

November 3rd, 2012 at 10:30 PM ^

They had Nebraska down to one play and couldn't get it done well before the questionable Pass Interference call.  Solve the problem don't make excuses.

OmarDontScare

November 4th, 2012 at 12:01 AM ^

Not sure why people are so surprised by this. They had their shot at a Rose Bowl with Mich, OSU, Neb and PSU down and couldn't get it done. They're back to where they belong.

Don

November 3rd, 2012 at 10:47 PM ^

He did make reference to the PI call at the end of the game—which I think was a horseshit call in Nebraska's favor—but he also bent my ear for 15 minutes about all the fuckups the Spartans committed along the way which were much more costly to them overall. They shot themselves in the feet repeatedly, and paid the price.

mGrowOld

November 3rd, 2012 at 10:51 PM ^

I know I'm suppose to be really sad that MSU lost but i'm really not.  For two reasons: One - they're MSU and love to see them lose - especially when they impload like they did today. And two I just finished watching the point machine called Oregon take apart USC.  Not saying we would definitely lose to them but the thought of going to the Capital Bowl or something and playing a second tier SEC team like South Carolina instead of Oregon doesnt seem THAT bad to me.

I know, i know Rose Bowl or bust and all that but jesus tap dancing christ Oregon plays at whole different level than anybody outside of Alabama.

mGrowOld

November 3rd, 2012 at 11:04 PM ^

According to the BCS computers they will.  And I cannot even fathom how pissed off they would be in that scenerio.  Seriously - outside of Alabama who in the SEC truly scares you?  LSU? SC? Georgia? Texas A & M?  I think we'd stand toe to toe with any of them.

Again - not saying i dont want to go to the Rose Bowl.  Just saying that if we were to win out and NOT go it wouldnt be the worst thing in the world for us.  I'd take 10-3 with a win at Columbus and a bowl game and call it a pretty successful season.

M-Wolverine

November 3rd, 2012 at 11:20 PM ^

Of Alabama, LSU, Florida and Georgia only two are making BCS games. The third best among them will be in the Cap 1. Tonight's game keeps going how it is, and with games left to play, that could even be Bama again. I don't favor us in any of those match-ups. Second best PAC-12 tem likely to replace Oregon is Stanford or Oregon State. So yeah, I like those chances better.

mGrowOld

November 3rd, 2012 at 11:45 PM ^

Agree that I like our chances against Oregon State and Stanford.  Don't agree that we couldnt beat LSU, Florida or Georgia.  And based on their remaining schedules if Alabama, Kansas State and Notre Dame all win out Oregon cannot pass them in the BCS computer rankings.  So Oregon WILL be in the Rose Bowl if two of the aforementioned teams win out or if they lose a game.

 

M-Wolverine

November 4th, 2012 at 12:16 AM ^

Particularly compared to us I'm not sure how you can feel that way. And they don't have to pass them in the computer rankings...just make it closer, because they're already ahead in the human component. (They only have to pick up 2/1000th of a point to catch ND). But it's mostly moot. You're not going to have 4 undefeated teams in December.

michfan4borw

November 3rd, 2012 at 11:05 PM ^

sparty lost b/c on some level they realize that beating Nebraska would have helped Michigan;  maybe the players don't realize this even now. 100% speculation, but I just think Dantonio/staff act like clowns on tape about Michigan, and that obsession seeps into the players' mindsets. 

I heard in the car on the radio that Dantonio had the ball in Nebraska territory on 4th & 2 in the 4th qtr, and that Dantonio chose to punt it (ultimately into the endzone).  I don't know much more than that, but something confidently tells me that he would have gone for it against Michigan in that same situation, to get the win.

LSAClassOf2000

November 4th, 2012 at 6:56 AM ^

I think that the one thing that Bell is forgetting here is that the refs probably have better than the 82nd best rushing offense in the FBS, and he should perhaps respect that as a running back. It takes a lot of denial to be blind to the team's flaws and to maintain same attitude of "I win or it's unfair" that many of us had when we were, oh, four or five. 

mGrowOld

November 4th, 2012 at 12:23 AM ^

I interrupt my debate with M-Wolverine to present the following post from "The Only Colors" without comment

 

Wow that's a terrible call

It just feels like those always goes against MSU. Reminds me of personal fouls against us for hitting Denard last season & Braxton this season – while they were inbounds and tiptoeing down the sideline. They’re legit, real football ays, and for as much football as I watch, those seem to only go against MSU.

by MSUDersh

jmblue

November 4th, 2012 at 12:06 PM ^

When your team is repeatedly caught on tape engaging in dirty conduct (like jumping on top of a prone player and twisting his facemask) and your coach shows no remorse, and when your DC brags about how his gameplan involves "60 minutes of unnecessary roughness" . . . eventually it will catch up to you.  MSU has a reputation now as a dirty team.  Referees are starting to flag them for more borderline things now.  MSU players are going to have to tread a more careful line from here on out.

Njia

November 4th, 2012 at 8:10 AM ^

Personally, I would rather MSU win and watch Michigan play in the Rose Bowl as a result. The other kind of logic is the same one that Mark D displayed when, had we beaten OSU in '07 (I think it was) his team would have played in a New Year's Day bowl. He said he'd never root for a Michigan win.

Dallas Walmart…

November 4th, 2012 at 4:41 PM ^

I understand not being able to root for Ohio under any circumstances, but I was cheering hard for MSU yesterday.  Still bitter that Nebraska's best chance for a second conference loss  went by the wayside as a result of stupid Sparty mistakes.  Of course, I'm more upset that we didn't just beat Nebraska in the first place.  Had we done that, we would be in position to sew up the division next Saturday.