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November 18th, 2012 at 6:46 PM
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No Spielman, You're Wrong! GO BLUE!!!

From last year in A2 - mid-way through the first quarter. ESPN announcers react to Gardner coming into The Game...

Dave Pasch: “And Devin Gardner is coming in the game at QB for Michigan. Denard Robinson will stay in the game… What do you think of this?”

Chris Spielman: “I think it’s wrong! I think it’s the wrong idea!”

May Chris Spielman* have nightmares all week!

GO BLUE!!!

 

* And I hope like hell we get Griese doing color commentary... it's only fair!

Gasp. Hold breath. Turn Blue!

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November 18th, 2012 at 6:50 PM | His reaction to Denard package (Score:5 Normal)
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November 18th, 2012 at 7:27 PM | (No subject) (Score:5 Normal)
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November 18th, 2012 at 6:51 PM | He (Score:5 Normal)
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He is an ass. He better not be calling the game. If he does I hope they put Griese in there with him.

THIS IS MICHIGAN

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November 18th, 2012 at 6:57 PM | i hope they compare national (Score:4 Normal)
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i hope they compare national championship rings.  oh wait...

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November 18th, 2012 at 6:52 PM | Also wrong, Brady Hoke. But (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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Also wrong, Brady Hoke. But he was wrong this year at Lincoln, when he brought in Bellomy to QB instead of Devin. That decision looks worse and worse each week...

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November 18th, 2012 at 6:56 PM | Let it go man. Let it go. (Score:5 Normal)
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Let it go man. Let it go. Beat Ohio!

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November 18th, 2012 at 7:01 PM | Yes (Score:1)
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Yes, Gardner should have taken snaps during the week, but don't also forget Nebraska got lucky against MSU and PSU got screwed on the goal line.

THIS IS MICHIGAN

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November 18th, 2012 at 8:58 PM | HOke's made many right (Score:1)
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HOke's made many right decisions, but what glares about the Nebraska game is that that second half cost us the BiG.  I knew it as it happened.  I just sat there staring at the screen, knowing this was the most important 30 minutes of football all year, and the massive blunder that was an unprepared Bellomy is what stared back at me.

I'm still loving the staff, and Devin, but the more Devin shines, the more I "wait... what?" Borges' decision to play Bellomy EVER over Devin.

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November 18th, 2012 at 10:28 PM | Have to disagree with you on this. (Score:1)
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I wouldn't say that Bellomy was unprepared as much as I would say he was not capable of being better at this point in his career.  This opens up another issue, on why DG wasn't considered an option in the Neb. game, especially after Bellomy's early struggles.

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November 18th, 2012 at 6:56 PM | The deuce package wasn't (Score:5 Normal)
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The deuce package wasn't exactly a wild success overall last year. Now that DG has emerged as a downfield passer its a completely different story. 

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November 18th, 2012 at 6:58 PM | Reverse prophecy? (Score:2 Normal)
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No, but there was something wildly prophetic in what Spielman said, and you gotta appreciate that it was him saying it!

Gasp. Hold breath. Turn Blue!

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November 18th, 2012 at 7:14 PM | Maybe he was just imagining (Score:1)
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Maybe he was just imagining what it would be like with OSU putting 2 QBs on the field and then realized that that would entail Bauserman being on the field again. 

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November 18th, 2012 at 6:58 PM | to be fair (Score:5 Normal)
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Spielman was in the group to always keep Denard at quarterback because he was the game changer. It was Urban that wanted to bench Denard for a mistake.

"I'm not a vegetarian b/c I love animals. I'm a vegetarian b/c I hate plants"

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November 18th, 2012 at 10:14 PM | If I remember Correctly, (Score:1)
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If I remember Correctly, Spielman always wanted the ball in Denards hands-- he should never sit a play out or have anyone else (like Gardner) take snaps at QB-- even if Denard is the field at the same time.  I'm not a Spielman fan, but his comments weren't ridiculous...

Go Blue.  That it all.

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November 18th, 2012 at 6:59 PM | Spielman was condescending (Score:2 Normal)
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About Kovacs in 2010 before THE GAME on a Columbuus radio show. I hope Jordan plays the game of his life on Saturday.

The SQUASHman

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November 18th, 2012 at 7:04 PM | Spielman has no class. (Score:5 Normal)
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He is completely unprofessional.  He lied multiple times last year about Lewan being downfield in the Sparty game.  They showed the replay multiple times and he was in the backfield.  He is always looking for a reason to bad mouth us.  I really, really hope we don't have to listen to his nonsense on Saturday.

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November 18th, 2012 at 9:01 PM | Spielman's a good dude, but (Score:3 Normal)
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Spielman's a good dude, but unlike Herbstreit, he just doesn't have the grey matter between his ears to jump into objective mode as his job description now requires.  He is just too much of a homer Bucknut.  Nothing wrong with that, and not his fault for being the semi-dumbass he is, but I just blame his network.

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November 18th, 2012 at 10:23 PM | Because Desmond is totally (Score:1)
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Because Desmond is totally unbiased!

"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
-Doug Heffernan, in regards to Arthur and his stamp needs

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November 18th, 2012 at 10:31 PM | How many OSU games (Score:1)
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 has desmond been in the booth for?  Griese would be a better comparison, but as you know, he is very steady and impartial as you will get as an announcer.

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November 19th, 2012 at 4:08 AM | Everyone has a fringe (Score:1)
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Everyone has a fringe mouthpiece. For every Spielman, there's a Herbstriet. For every Griese, a Howard.

"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
-Doug Heffernan, in regards to Arthur and his stamp needs

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November 18th, 2012 at 7:11 PM | Spielman & Ohio fans react to Gardner+Robinson package (Score:5 Normal)
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November 18th, 2012 at 7:12 PM | I would prefer to have him in (Score:-1 Overrated)
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I would prefer to have him in the booth.  It will be fun listening to him while we're up by 40 in the 4th quarter.

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November 18th, 2012 at 7:20 PM | What I remember was Urban Meyer (Score:5 Normal)
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lying his proverbial ass off to a national TV audience about his interest level and involvement in negotiations for the Ohio job.

 

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November 18th, 2012 at 8:50 PM | Meyer didnt call that game. (Score:2 Normal)
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Meyer didnt call that game. He was excused from his duties that week......

If you spell Crisler like the car company you should hand in your fan card before the next meeting.... Same goes for Ferry Field

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November 18th, 2012 at 10:16 PM | you've got to admit it was a (Score:1)
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you've got to admit it was a nice ploy.   A whole YEAR of vising other coaches/players/facilities/teams, researching your future opponents (ncluding Mich) in the name of ESPN before jumping back into coaching... 

Go Blue.  That it all.

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November 18th, 2012 at 7:44 PM | Denard point to Urbie (Score:2 Normal)
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Hopefully DR just smiles at Urbie as he runs by the OSU bench and says "Glad we're not in Gainesville together ...."

"Everybody wants to be a hero, so to speak.  But it takes everybody."  - Charles Woodson

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November 18th, 2012 at 8:21 PM | Never A Bad Idea... (Score:2)
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"Chris Spielman: “I think it’s wrong! I think it’s the wrong idea!”" - from the OP

Making a defense try to account for the two best athletes in your offense is never a bad idea. As someone mention, when we went to a "deuce" formation, Robinson was almost always the decoy as I recall and it wasn't as successful as, say, the inverted veer, which managed to get us 13 yards on average each time we used it.  That being said, the "deuce" worked beautifully against Iowa and I certainly hope it gives the Buckeyes fits (play action definitely will, given their pass defense situation). 

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November 18th, 2012 at 8:22 PM | fuck (Score:2)
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Spielman. Tired of his annoying commentary and osu bias

"Touchdown... No flags!!"

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November 18th, 2012 at 8:33 PM | I think it's wrong (Score:3 Normal)
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That a married Urban Meyer bangs co-eds at Florida and quits his job, before he gets caught, but that's just my opinion.

It's tough being Blue in Columbus!!!

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November 18th, 2012 at 8:43 PM | He's had it out for Michigan (Score:2)
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He's had it out for Michigan ever since his dad told him he couldn't go there.

If you don't ride a camel, you ain't shi'ite.

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November 18th, 2012 at 8:54 PM | not a big Spielman fan; he knows the game and offers (Score:1)
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insights sometimes, but he's such a homer, so damned humorless. 

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November 18th, 2012 at 8:59 PM | Well (Score:2)
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Many on this blog agreed with spielman all week leading up to the game. There were numerous threads in which posters suggested that if Denard couldn't throw, that it would make sense to get him invoked at rb/slot/WR/jet sweep etc. All such posters were uniformly blasted and told that this was the worst idea ever.

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November 18th, 2012 at 10:33 PM | Still nervous about what (Score:1 Flamebait)
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Still nervous about what Gardner will look like against a halfway decent defense...

OSU plays a lot of zone which can confuse QB's and force picks.

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November 19th, 2012 at 7:56 AM | Their pass defense is like (Score:2)
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Their pass defense is like 91st in the country.  This is not your daddy's OSU defense this year.  I am sure Urban will get them back but right now it's not the typical defense you have become used to down there.  See Indiana game.  

And when we play as a team, when the old season is over, you and I know.. it's gonna be Michigan again. Michigan.

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November 18th, 2012 at 10:37 PM | Griese said on Saturday (Score:2 Normal)
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that he hoped that ESPN/ABC would let Spielman & him do The Game.

 

That WOULD be interesting, eh?

and the band played on

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November 18th, 2012 at 10:41 PM | Not being a "downer" but a (Score:0)
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Not being a "downer" but a voice of reason when I say that Gardner has played well in his 3 starts this year. Yet, those starts were against Minny, NW and Iowa. Minny is Minny, NW essentially had us beat minus poor deep coverage and an impossilbly caught bomb despite having an average defense and Iowa is the worst I've seen them in almost a decade. I want nothing more than for Gardner to go off and us beat osu's ass! Yet, he is still prone to indicision as much as forcing balls into traffic. Better straight up passing QB than Denard? I'd say yes on each player's best days. Has he faced a defense with osu's talent and run stopping ability (likely forcing us to be one dimensional)? Not even close. I just want to see this entire team ball the fuck out Saturday and crack skulls. Yet, not sold on Gardner as we've yet to see him play a defense above "average". He won't have 10 seconds in the pocket to dance around before throwing, those goal line bootlegs are beyond obvious, etc. All stops must be pulled and I hope Gardner does light them the fuck up. GO BLUE!!!!!

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November 19th, 2012 at 2:00 AM | Above avg defenses (Score:2)
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Given Denard's record against above average defenses, I think Gardner's unknown reaction is preferable to Denard's known reaction. I may be ugly wrong Saturday, but I'm hoping we see Devin take another step up.

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November 19th, 2012 at 8:03 AM | Agreed.  We know what Denard (Score:2)
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Agreed.  We know what Denard will do against a speedy defense - the history is there.  Gardner IMO is harder to game plan for and having Denard as a running option while Devin is in there is going t take a lot of practice time up for OSU this week.  I expect Devin to make mistakes - frankly his progress from a year ago is "shocking" as he showed little in game action (yes mostly mop up time but he looked nothing like a top ranked national recruit - see what redshirt frosh QBs are doing at Oregon and A&M).  Now he looks like a young Vince Young, albeit versus junk competition excl NW.  But I expect a better ability to come back from mistakes with that arm and a more two dimensional player.  

Also people are freaking out about OSU defnese as if its their vintage - it's not a great defensive team.  I think when we look back at the game Sunday morning the discussion will be more about what OSU can do to our defense as we have a lot of trouble with Miller type QBs.  And the defense seems to have sagged a bit here the last 3-4 weeks, even against some bad offenses.  (yes they didnt give up a ton of points to Iowa but that offense is horried and only throws to TE and we still had trouble with stopping that)

And when we play as a team, when the old season is over, you and I know.. it's gonna be Michigan again. Michigan.

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