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No shock, Dayne Crist leaving ND.

Among other sources...

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/story/2011-12-04/dayne-crist-transfer-not...

Live in Michigan, Work in ND suburb of South Bend.

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December 4th, 2011 at 8:10 PM | Brian Kelly's Head (Score:2)
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He'll go from medium purple to ripe plum when he hears this....

"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."

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December 4th, 2011 at 8:25 PM | You Don't Think (Score:1)
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Brian Kelly knows one of his QBs wants to transfer? He's probably encouraging it because he'll never take another snap at ND.

"Better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football" -- John Heisman

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December 4th, 2011 at 8:27 PM | I'm Sure He Knows... (Score:2 Funny)
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....but I can't understand why anyone would play  for a coach whose head could look like all of the Skittles in a package. 

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December 4th, 2011 at 10:26 PM | marshawn lynch would (Score:2)
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December 4th, 2011 at 8:10 PM | Wisky? (Score:0 Flamebait)
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Don't be surprised if it's Wisconsin ala Wilson. From what I understand, he won't have to sit a year.

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December 4th, 2011 at 8:15 PM | He must fall under article (Score:5 Funny)
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He must fall under article 132.7 which states, no player should be forced to play for that big of an asshole.

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December 4th, 2011 at 8:18 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:2 Normal)
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He's trading one asshole for another one

Despite what the other guy calls himself, my name actually is Magnus.

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December 4th, 2011 at 8:59 PM | Could you give me some (Score:0 Flamebait)
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Could you give me some examples of when Bielema is a dick? I agree that he is pretty dickish but he only seems dickish to me.  I don't have any specific instances where I thought he was a dick.

It ain't easy being cheesy

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December 4th, 2011 at 9:11 PM | Running up the score on (Score:1)
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Running up the score on Indiana last year.

"A Michigan Man will coach a Michigan Team"

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December 4th, 2011 at 9:30 PM | Admitting to trying to hurt (Score:1)
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Admitting to trying to hurt Mike Martin during last year's game.

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December 4th, 2011 at 11:18 PM | Agreed. Also, if I haven't (Score:1)
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Agreed. Also, if I haven't commented on the awesomeness of your picture I haven't been doing my job, which frankly, is nothing on this board.

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December 4th, 2011 at 10:14 PM | Wasn't Bielema ... (Score:1)
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Wasn't Bielema the coach who implied in his post-game conference last year that Denard was a showboat and not a team player and that "we would never recruit someone like that"?

If so, I would call that pretty dickish.

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December 4th, 2011 at 9:45 PM | Wow (Score:5 Funny)
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He's trading one asshole for another one

Medical science has made some pretty impressive strides...

They no longer call me Bisbiño

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December 4th, 2011 at 8:16 PM | Why is that? (Score:1 Redundant)
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I'm not saying you are wrong because I certainly am no expert in this but I was under the impression that if a player transfers he has to sit out a year unless there is a coaching change or some type of extenuating circumstance like that

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December 4th, 2011 at 8:18 PM | He graduated. Grad School (Score:2 Normal)
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He graduated. Grad School exception.

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December 4th, 2011 at 8:57 PM | Ahh thanks (Score:1 Redundant)
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I didn't realize he was graduating this year, I was thinking he was a junior. What a relatively unremarkable career for him at ND

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December 4th, 2011 at 8:19 PM | I could be wrong (Score:1)
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I could be mistaken, but I believe it's the same case as Russel Wilson where he has already finished all college courses so no sit out year is required

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December 4th, 2011 at 8:26 PM | There is a very specific exception for graduate students (Score:1)
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If you have completed your degree at one institution, and you still have eligibility left, and you are accepted into a program of *graduate study* (Masters or PhD, for example) then you don't have to sit out a year when you transfer.

 

I have no idea what the rationale is for this rule, but it gets used now and then. For example, when Ryan Mundy went to WVU from here he may have done this, though I might be mistaken on that one.

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December 4th, 2011 at 8:52 PM | The rationale for the rule is (Score:1)
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The rationale for the rule is the player must be enrolling in a graduate program THAT HIS ORIGINAL UNIVERSITY DIDN'T OFFER. They do not want "athletics" to interfere with a student's education. You can judge for yourself the sincerity of the "educational decisions" these just-so-happen-to-be-benched players seem to make.

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December 4th, 2011 at 9:15 PM | rationale (Score:2)
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It's a good rule in theory as it allows a student to continue their studies at a university that offers the program they are interested in without being forced to chose between academics and football.  That the rule is usually abused rather than used for its original intent doesn't mean the rule itself is bad.  I suspect a number of lower-profile players than WIlson and Crist at lower-profile schools than Wisconsin and ND have used the rule to sincerely transfer for grad studies.

On the other hand, the SEC no longer allows these transfers.  I wonder how long it will before other conferences follow suit.  (If Crist leads Wiscy to another conference championship, do the other Big 10 schools press for a ban?)

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December 4th, 2011 at 8:21 PM | You don't say. (Score:1)
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You don't say.

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December 4th, 2011 at 8:21 PM | Hmmmm (Score:2)
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They say ND is where 5* QBs go to fade into obscurity.  If he goes to Wisky, Bielema may never get another QB out of high school recruit again.  

 


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December 4th, 2011 at 8:25 PM | Wisconsin, MSU, USC and Stanford (Score:0 Flamebait)
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Wisconsin, MSU, USC and Stanford could/will all be losing their top QBs. Crist may be walking into one hell of a situation. Now he's not as good as Wilson, but in the right system, he may be able to help a team win and show some of that 5* rating off.

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December 4th, 2011 at 8:34 PM | I am not sure Brian Kelly has (Score:0)
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I am not sure Brian Kelly has to sign off, but I doubt he would allow a transfer to three of those four teams.

Live in Michigan, Work in ND suburb of South Bend.

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December 4th, 2011 at 8:48 PM | It's not really a transfer as (Score:2 Normal)
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It's not really a transfer as I understand it. Crist is technically graduated.

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December 4th, 2011 at 8:41 PM | I am not sure Brian Kelly has (Score:0)
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504 double post, sorry.

Live in Michigan, Work in ND suburb of South Bend.

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December 4th, 2011 at 9:04 PM | Well (Score:1)
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I'm sure Notre Dame doesn't have a masters in packaging science so MSU would be a good fit.

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December 4th, 2011 at 8:55 PM | only if (Score:2)
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the school you are at does not offer the graduate program you want, then you are allowed to go somewhere that offers it without sitting out a year.

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December 4th, 2011 at 11:17 PM | And this is the source of my confusion... (Score:1)
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...with Russell Wilson.  He's listed as a communications major at Wisconsin.  He was a communications major at NC St.   Does Wisconsin offer a specialized communications grad degree that NC St. doesn't?  

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December 4th, 2011 at 8:55 PM | He could walk into a nice (Score:1)
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situation on the farm. 

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December 4th, 2011 at 9:40 PM | Come to A2 Dayne... (Score:0 Overrated)
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We would live to have a proven 3rd stringer behind Mr Morris and Mr Gardner

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December 4th, 2011 at 9:41 PM | Wisco has Bart Houston coming (Score:2)
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Wisco has Bart Houston coming in next year, 4* QB out of CA powerhouse De La Salle so this  might enable them to redshirt him, I'm not sure how much eligibility Jon Budmayr has left.

LSA '11
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December 4th, 2011 at 9:57 PM | Should be funny seeing him in (Score:1)
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Should be funny seeing him in Madison next year, as he's basically a disappointment who struggled to do much with a very good offensive unit around him.  I'm sure Wiscy will talk themselves into thinking he's another Wilson, but at some the Badgers will need to develop an actual QB from within their ranks, and Crist is not some savior that it is worth delaying the inevitable.

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December 4th, 2011 at 10:47 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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Given his struggles I'm not sure big programs will take him. I'd say he's far more likely to end up at a more mid-level school where he can make more of an impact.

Chaos is found in greatest abundance wherever order is being sought.  It always defeats order because it is better organized. 

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December 4th, 2011 at 10:54 PM | Brian Kelly's blood pressure just went down (Score:1)
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Besides, they have 4-star QB Everett Golson for the future....

I hope Chryst ends up at Wisconsin.

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December 4th, 2011 at 10:59 PM | He might just end up as  (Score:1)
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He might just end up as  backup qb instead of a starter if he goes to a top 25 school.  Then again, that's still better than his situation at ND would be next year.

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December 4th, 2011 at 11:05 PM | Boise State would be a good (Score:0 Overrated)
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Boise State would be a good spot for him

Your friendly neighborhood Sparty

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December 4th, 2011 at 11:34 PM | Brian Kelly responds with his (Score:2)
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Brian Kelly responds with his trademark class:


"It's pretty much up in the air. I've got to focus on the guys that are going to be here."

http://ndnation.com/boards/showpost.php?b=football;pid=286404;d=this

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December 5th, 2011 at 12:49 AM | He should go to Wisconsin (Score:1)
kinny18
Joined: 10/23/2010
MGoPoints: 344

That would be great for recruiting. Here's the pitch: "Come here and we'll bring in a free agent qb every year after you've redshirted and waited behind the last 2 free agent qb's we signed."

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