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No official absence excusal on January 4th
Since I work in the Physics department despite still being a student, I'm on a lot of faculty email lists. The Dean of LSA sent out a message to all faculty this morning stating that no official arrangements are being made for students who miss class on January 4th. He doesn't cite football, but rather just "travel delays"... This means that it's up to you, students, to work out your Sugar Bowl absence ahead of time with your professors themselves; no official waiver is coming and you'll likely be dropped from any class you miss without permission. This doesn't affect me because I'm poor, but just thought I'd pass it along in case you're still holding out for an official statement.

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vs Ohio State: 58-44-6
vs Notre Dame: 23-16-1
vs MSU:  68-32-5
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vs SEC:  20-8-1
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December 16th, 2011 at 12:17 PM | Haha, it's not like missing a (Score:3 Normal)
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Haha, it's not like missing a single class is going to kill anyone.

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December 16th, 2011 at 12:24 PM | If it's a lab you need to (Score:2)
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If it's a lab you need to graduate and you're in your last semester, you'd better hope your professor isn't an ass...

Michigan: 903–315–36 (Best in NCAA)
vs Ohio State: 58-44-6
vs Notre Dame: 23-16-1
vs MSU:  68-32-5
vs B1G: 522-197-24
vs SEC:  20-8-1
vs PAC 12: 48-24-1
vs Big 12: 10-5-1<

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December 16th, 2011 at 1:08 PM | Luckily there's usually no (Score:4 Normal)
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Luckily there's usually no lab during the first week of a semester.

Photography Facebook Page. Lots of Michigan sports photos. And planes, lots of planes:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Barron-Photography/13379

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December 16th, 2011 at 12:23 PM | A lot of classes (Score:5 Normal)
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Require attendence on the first day, or else you will be dropped from the roster.  This is not true for large lectures, but a lot of smaller classes/discussions/labs require it.

USING GRATUITOUS AMOUNTS OF CAPS LOCK SINCE APRIL 2011

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December 16th, 2011 at 1:24 PM | Oddly enough, the first class (Score:3 Normal)
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Oddly enough, the first class is the most important and least important. Least important because it's syllabus day and you can show up hungover (recommended). And most important because if there is a waiting list and you miss it, expect the students on the waiting list to give you a hearty Yost "SEEYA."

Final Four Thoughts!

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December 16th, 2011 at 5:48 PM | I'd assume that if you're on (Score:2)
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I'd assume that if you're on a waiting list for a class that's really important to your major, you probably won't be going to NOLA in the first place....

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December 16th, 2011 at 12:17 PM | I bet Ohio would implement (Score:4 Normal)
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I bet Ohio would implement the same policy.

Not that I loved Rich Rod less, but that I loved Michigan more.

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December 16th, 2011 at 12:41 PM | Yeah, except... (Score:0 Overrated)
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in Ohio, you just miss out on the free tattoo's, given out the first day of classes....

“Oh Yeah, what he said forgodsakes...”  -   -         

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December 16th, 2011 at 12:18 PM | FYI (Score:4 Informative)
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They've never granted one of these for any of the bowls we've been in to the best my knowledge.

Also never tell a prof you're cutting class to binge drink and watch football in New Orleans.  Your best bet is to tell the prof you have to travel overseas (your dad is stationed on a military base in Japan or something and want to seem him for the holidays) and can't get a flight until the third.

You can also send a panicked sounding email at the start of class claiming you're trapped in some airport due to a weather delay or the like (check the weather and decide where you are "stuck").  

Not that I ever lied to profs to attend bowl games...

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December 16th, 2011 at 12:20 PM | Well, I guess we're in trouble next season (Score:5 Normal)
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Since the whole football team, band and cheerleaders are all going to be inelligible for not having any classes winter term.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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December 16th, 2011 at 12:25 PM | This is what enrages me the (Score:5 Normal)
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This is what enrages me the most.  How many football players will be excused from the first day of class? All of them.

What about that "level playing field," NCAA?  Sounds like extra benefits to me.

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December 16th, 2011 at 12:57 PM | Or they just acted like (Score:5 Normal)
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Or they just acted like adults and contacted their teachers to let them know they were still in the class and were just getting back to town late.

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December 16th, 2011 at 6:09 PM | The MMB gets issued letters (Score:5 Normal)
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The MMB gets issued letters to give to professors signed by the Director of Bands, similar to what athletes get, describing the travel schedule and to please excuse the student from class for that day.  Remember, the MMB is a class (ENS 348), for which grades are given.  

I haven't heard exactly what the MMB itinerary is, but it wouldn't surprise me (based on how these things have gone in the past) if the flight back is in the middle of the night or very early in order to get students back in time for classes.  Since it's a charter flight, there's a little more flexibility in that regard.  

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December 19th, 2011 at 9:20 PM | I've heard they'rw back (Score:1)
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late on the 4th, but this can be old info.

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December 16th, 2011 at 12:23 PM | I don't get it, profs can (Score:5 Normal)
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I don't get it, profs can drop you for missing one class? Howbout realizing I sell my soul to pay the absurdly high tuition in this place and if I manage to pass your exams and tests then I'll come to as few classes as I damn well please.

That, of course, would be my response if I wasn't a total wuss.

I've decided to lay off the food for a while, and go on the booze.

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December 16th, 2011 at 12:26 PM | First class (Score:5 Normal)
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It's University policy that if you don't make it to the first class (and a kid on the waitlist does), they can drop you and add the kid.  If you want the desk, you have to show up.  

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December 16th, 2011 at 12:26 PM | The drop policy only applies (Score:2)
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The drop policy only applies to the first two class meetings and is based off the huge wait lists for small classes, I believe...

Michigan: 903–315–36 (Best in NCAA)
vs Ohio State: 58-44-6
vs Notre Dame: 23-16-1
vs MSU:  68-32-5
vs B1G: 522-197-24
vs SEC:  20-8-1
vs PAC 12: 48-24-1
vs Big 12: 10-5-1<

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December 16th, 2011 at 12:58 PM | That's interesting, but I (Score:2)
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That's interesting, but I guess its understandable. I've always treated the first few days of classes as vacation. 

I've decided to lay off the food for a while, and go on the booze.

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December 17th, 2011 at 12:31 PM | me (Score:1)
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and my gentleman's C agree

 

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December 16th, 2011 at 12:27 PM | Yep... (Score:3 Normal)
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And that's why I am leaving New Orleans as soon as the game is over and driving all night to get back for class the next day.

I'm still going to miss my first class, but I've had the professor before and I believe he's recording his lectures these days, so I'm not too worried about him as long as I let him know. My MDE later that afternoon, however, is a whole different story. I should make it back in time, but driving that far you never know what can delay you along the way.

"Good evening, and welcome to Michigan Stadium for this the one-hundred thirty-second season of Michigan football, and the thirty-ninth meeting between Michigan and Notre Dame." -Carl Grapentine, September 10, 2011

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December 16th, 2011 at 2:12 PM | In all honesty... (Score:2 Normal)
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Be safe...  It's going to be January and you're going to be driving through the ice belt in the middle of the night.  Nevermind the insanely high % of drunk drivers you'll encounter just trying to get out of Nawlins.

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December 16th, 2011 at 2:33 PM | Sorry (Score:1)
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But I can't risk not being able to take my MDE over a football game. I really want to graduate on time, and considering this is suppose to be my last semester, that would be impossible without my MDE.

I'm not too worried about it. There should be 4 of us to rotate and stay fresh. Barring a blizzard of some kind we should make it, and if that SHOULD happen I am sure the professor would understand so long as I made a legitimate effort.

"Good evening, and welcome to Michigan Stadium for this the one-hundred thirty-second season of Michigan football, and the thirty-ninth meeting between Michigan and Notre Dame." -Carl Grapentine, September 10, 2011

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December 16th, 2011 at 12:29 PM | Good thing Ross doesn't start (Score:2)
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Good thing Ross doesn't start classes until the 9th

"I find your lack of faith disturbing... This is Michigan fergodsakes"

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December 16th, 2011 at 2:43 PM | Oh man, what's going to (Score:-1 Trolling)
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Oh man, what's going to happen to the football players, band members, marching band, team mamnagers, hangers-on, etc? They are supposed to be STUDENTS first right?  

What you see is the hard work he's put in. It's nature. It just all comes together.

-Craig James

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December 16th, 2011 at 2:54 PM | There is never Lab/Discussion on the First day of Class (Score:1)
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And those are the classes you need to be worried about being dropped from.  Lectures are the only classes you will miss.  Since it's even Syllabus day, you wont miss much

Me fail English?  That's unpossible!

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December 16th, 2011 at 3:25 PM | Oh man OP This is weird (Score:1)
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Oh man OP

This is weird because I'm a student working in the physics department, too.

But yeah, this is mostly a big deal for classes with waitlists. Unless the prof is a big football fan or something.

i should probably stop posting on mgoblog when I'm drunk.

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December 16th, 2011 at 3:37 PM | Stop worrying and email your profs now (Score:2 Informative)
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I already have contacted both I have on that wednesday. One flat out canceled class and will pry be at the bowl (see. Prof Bacon, John U.) and the other said that while he doesnt like it, he understands, appreciates the email, and wont drop me.

If a teacher wont let you miss for the sugar bowl, he/she is a dick and trust me, you dont want to take a class from them. Remember, we are paying them to teach us. I dont pay for people to treat me like shit. 

Just Win Baby

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December 16th, 2011 at 6:07 PM | Do you eat at Blimpy? (Score:1)
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Do you eat at Blimpy?

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December 16th, 2011 at 8:24 PM | Can't speak for the guy above (Score:2 Normal)
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But I actually refuse to for both their shitty service and because I tend to avoid mainlining grease.

On topic, I'll be a second semester senior, and the only class I'll miss is a 200 level Phil course I'm taking for fun. I looked up the Philosophy department's policy, and they also say "first 2 classes," not the very first. If they boot me for a sophomore on the wait list, que sera, I already fulfilled all my aerospace reqs. *cross fingers knock wood audit goes through perfect again*

The world looks better through maize mirror tint. 

Still waiting on backup.

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December 16th, 2011 at 5:16 PM | For the most part (Score:2 Normal)
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as long as you ask nicely and make it clear that you are really excited about taking the class, it should be fine.

Most of us just want to get students off of our waitlists as soon as we can, because we hate turning people away.  If we know that you want to take the class, we know we don't have that spot for someone else.  I have students in similar positions for one reason or another just about every semester, and it's never a big deal.

But, as someone said on a prior thread: ask, don't expect.  Most faculty don't react well to the entitled-student routine.

 

 

 

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December 16th, 2011 at 5:25 PM | It would put a crimp in (Score:5 Normal)
M-Wolverine
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Their entitled-faculty routine.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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December 16th, 2011 at 5:54 PM | Nah... (Score:3 Normal)
Needs
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It more reflects the "I don't want to deal with the inevitable grade complaint I'm going to get from this guy" routine.

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December 16th, 2011 at 8:46 PM | We aren't entitled (Score:1)
bnoble
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We're just in charge. ;-)

 

 

 

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December 16th, 2011 at 10:04 PM | I think... (Score:1 Normal)
wolpherine2000
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...it has more to do with the fraction of students that believe that paying tuition allows them to be taught at their convenience. Fortunately for them the University of Phoenix exists (nice football stadium too).

As a matter of fact I like beer.

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December 16th, 2011 at 8:16 PM | I thought it was you can't (Score:1)
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I thought it was you can't miss the first 2?

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December 16th, 2011 at 11:54 PM | Did U-M consider that professors could be going to NOLA? (Score:1)
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Did U-M consider that professors could be going to NOLA?  What if they miss class on January 4?

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December 17th, 2011 at 1:55 AM | Since the professors set the rules for their own classes (Score:2)
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Have the TAs hand out the syllabi and introduce themselves, I suppose.

Abort, Retry, Fail?

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