The beginning of the end
well that's just, like, your opinion, man
The beginning of the end
They are so cool. Nobody can come to their party. They party alone. that's how cool they are. I hate ND so much.
...this doesn't give Michigan much time to try to line up big-name opponents for those years. I hope I'm wrong.
Okay, you got my attention. Geogia, LSU, Florida...a high end SEC team on the schedule would be sweet. I think you have to have at least one top 25 team in the pre-B1G schedule and beating an SEC team moves you up the rankings, losing doesn't do too much damage.
A high end SEC team you say? Has anyone looked at Alabama's schedule to see if they have an opening?
FYI Bama plays Sparty in 2016-2017 season so they aren't available.
I'd love to see another SEC team like GA though.
I'd love to see us play an SEC team like Vandy...
I don't know this "Alabama" you speak of.
You don't know Bama? They play in the SEC and are coached by a former MSU head coach... Mr. John L. Smith.
a NFL franchise, thus leading the way for Saban's return to the NFL
Do you mean Alabama Alabama or JLS's Alabama?
Hey Georgia....whatcha doinnnnnnnnn on Saturday, 9/12/15 to be exact? Well hurry up and let me know because I just got off the phone with Florida State, and Georgia Tech.
I would love to see Georgia or FSU or any other high profile southern team take up this spot. How cool would it be to see LSU up in Ann Arbor at night
The last game played will be at ND.
Considering the first game when the series restarted was in South Bend, it's going to end in Ann Arbor. Even if that means Brandon says "Fuck you, next year is our last game."
I somehow have a feeling that Brandon will not care. The contract likely has a liquidated damages clause in it that fixes the penalty in the event of a breach. This seems like something Brandon would be willing to sacrifice to end the series on his terms.
Oh, and good riddance. This ND series has grown tiresome, IMO. It'll never be like the 90s again, when it was at its peak. Times have changed.
Contract probably says have to give at least 3 years notice to NOT pay a penalty.
Agreed. It has a 3-year notice term, meaning they have to give 3-years notice prior to termination in order to avoid a penalty. But the penalty is probably a fixed amount that Brandon would be willing to play to end the series on his terms. I could be wrong about him though.
god i hope so, brandon would get $20 in the mail from me.
Notre Dame? That kind of sucks. I understood that time were changing but I was looking forward to it for a few more years. Those were going to be some prime time matchups.
Looks like we'll be maintaining out lead in the all time series record vs ND for quite some time.
I'm guessing they will continue to play MSU and Purdue though?
They have an unsigned agreement to play through 2021 -
To hell with Notre Dame!
Enjoy the acc and the decent into irrelevance. Fuck Notre Dame
/can't even blame the iPhone for that one
I think he means they'll be decent but irrelevant, which sounds about right.
Exactly! That's totally what I meant. Definitely not just the wrong word...
1. Decent is an adjective that means fitting, appropriate or in good taste. To pronounce the word, stress the first syllable to make a strong (long) "e" sound.
2. Descent is a noun that means a decline or the act of moving downward. The verb is descend. To pronounce , relax the first syllable and stress the second.
3. Dissent as a verb means to disagree or to differ in opinion. To pronounce this verb, stress the first syllable and relax the second.
.... while we remain irrelevant in the Big Ten. Srsly, after the first three weeks of this season, can you REALLY say the ACC is more irrelevant than the B1G? At least they have FSU. We have... Northwestern! Oh, and Minnie!
Raise your hand if you didnt see this coming a mile away. Trust me MSU is going to be next and probably Purdue too. With USC Stanford, the service acadamies and five (to start) ACC games there just wasnt room on their schedule for three B1G games and the cupcakes they're going to need to play.
Fuck Notre Dame. Have fun playing your new tradional rivals Wake Forest, NC & NC State, Duke, Clemson, Virgina and all the other schools who have basically never played the Irish before.
This opens up the schedule to play some good teams.
Once Notre Dame started the drift towards the ACC (i.e., all other sports apart from football), with the proviso that it would play five ACC opponents in football, did anyone else think that the slow erosion of the historic Big Ten-Notre Dame rivalries would start to occur? It is a bit of a shame though - a few of these games have been rather exciting, but the "let's just be friends" attitude they've always taken with the Big Ten has gotten old and increasingly irksome over time...so, au revoir, Notre Dame!
Screw them! The B1G should've stopped scheduling them when they refused to join.
Thank you! Exactly my feeling! Playing ND when they refused to join was kind of like beng the abused spouse who wouldn't leave, but made sure dinner was ready every evening.
Right, so once we get really good, they want none of us. That makes sense.
That's fine, we'll beat up on someone else then. We just need to beat them the next two years.
They are a bunch of pussies.
Won't be gone long. Like others have said, there is too much to gain for both sides. Give me a low risk, high reward investment any day.
Obviously I can't start a thread, so no thread jack here--someone can move if need be. I know rollbamaroll.com isn't everyone's favorite around here, but they are good for a read on Tuesdays.
(No UM in there, so it's safe.)
Won't miss them - wish this had happened years ago.
Also think they were really pissed about the UTL game - not only losing it but all the attention focused on the awesomeness of Michigan and Ann Arbor that weekend - they don't like playing second fiddle and they were relegated to it that day.
Anyone recall any classy shots of downtown South Bend during Saturday's telecast?
In a way they have a similar obstacle that MSU has.
ND just never will surpass UM; they are so close with the Win total and Winning%, but yet there still is a glaring gap that separates them.
UM taught them how to play football. Literally.
Shane beats Gunner 42-0 in SB in the series farewell. I say then let's get a yearly series with Stanford that gets them to ditch ND. Not sure how we sell it to Stanford but it would be so nice to stick it to ND so they only get to Cali every other year for a beat down.
Stanford. I'd love to see a home/home with the Cardinal and perhaps getting a rivalry started.
Anybody else come to mind?
Assuming that they keep their yearly game with ND (and why wouldn't they?), that's not going to happen. No way they play a nine-game Pac-12 schedule along with games against Michigan and ND every season.
Since we were already starting to dance w/ the Pac-12 anyway, I'd love to see Stanford brought in as a feature rival.
Texas would be great!
Hopefully we can pick up a series against USC, Stanford, Texas, or someone else like that. I was a fan of the Ohio State home and homes with USC and Texas, those would be pretty cool for us to have.
Except if my memory serves me correct, DB has made pretty clear that he doesn't like home-and-homes. Too much lost revenue from an extra home game that they could have.
But I'd kill to have a home-and-home with a solid BCS opponent like Stanford, Texas, or someone from SEC country like Georgia or Florida.
UM can now have 7 home games plus a home-and-home with a decent team.
So the full transition to the ACC begins...
The TV money loss sucks but only for those on the right side of that equation, which wouldn't be any of us. Lets get some more essss eeee ceee involved anyway. If we are gonna keep up lets play teams that matter in the national picture. Cant shy away from it anymore and we should be up to brady's expectations for his style of offense by then. If we aren't well thats a whole different issue.
I figured it was only a matter of time, although this is earlier than anticipated.
It is only logical:
The reality is that ND will likely be playing a full ACC slate soon enough, and one or two of the above games (USC, Stanford, Navy, MSU, & Purdue) will fall by the wayside.
This particular change is personally irksome, because it was always doable for Michigan fans like myself to easily travel to South Bend. For instance, I left home at 2:30pm, had plenty of time to tailgate, took a leisurely walk to the stadium, and was back home by 1am. That won't be possible in the future with many solid opponents.
However, if this opens up pairs of home and away games vs. solid teams in the Pac 10, SEC, ACC, and Big 12, I can live with it. Can you imagine a home & away schedule over 10 years including:
10 games with any five of those teams, one home and one away, in a 10 year span, would be awesome and a nice change of pace.
I also think that ND has been irritated because the financial arrangements for the Michigan series ended up being to Michigan's advantage and not Notre Dame's.
Ugh, screw you Notre Dame. What's worse, this probably doesn't leave Michigan enough time to go out and schedule a real opponent.
Bring on Savannah State.
A bunch of schools look available, actually. Oklahoma, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech
GA Tech and triple option? No thanks. But its definitely be an intersting matchup for people other than those of us here (the "casual observers").
I think a lot of these big non-conference games are based on playing teams in markets that Michigan does not get as much exposure. So maybe a team in Florida would make sense. Or maybe a team out west like Cal. That would be interesting - two very good universities. How about a team like Missouri? There could be some interesting options, depending on the opponents schedules, of course.
But it would be the perfect publicity to showcase/unveil the Gerald Ford Patch! Think about it!
the state of Georgia produces the 3rd most division 1 football players, if i'm not mistaken. Behind Texas and Cali. Last I checked, we may have gotten a few players from there (David Cone, i see you!) but that's a market we could potentially benefit from.
Texas looked all tied up, but hey, I guess A&M or somebody would be a good "SEC" opponent too.
GT woldnt even make sense. Not a traditional power.
I think this is a false statement. I'm pretty sure they were a powerhouse back in the day. But by "traditional" I assume you refer to more recent history, in which case you're probably right. But I'm sure it'd be cool to do a home-and-home with them, especially for the players since the stadium is right near the middle of Atlanta. The more I think about it, the more interesting that game sounds.
You know it'd be a night game too. Capacity is kind of small, but it gets loud. and it's a pretty nice place to play. Lots going on in Atlanta... and yeah, it's pretty much in the heart of it all. (Lobbying because my girlfriend went there, and we almost never play them in much of anything.)
as the opponent which gives us the most credibility per actual difficulty of the game
i love your tag line.
"WE WANT DUKE!"-nd
Are you really Jay-Z?
Anyone think that Brandon is slyly content with this outcome, as he can now pimp the inevitable night game against ND next year as being their final at Michigan Stadium?
LSU or FSU or Florida or even Miami. Any of those would be good.
While we still have several players on our roster from both Florida and Louisiana, there aren't many in the last couple years. However, I'd rather have the best talent from wherever it comes from, and especially think it is more important to recruit Ohio well, with Illinois and Pennsylvania after that. If we are filling up with 4-stars and the occasional 5-star from Michigan and the surrounding states, we will do well.
I love the idea of Texas or Lsu. Great recruiting. I hate the idea of another Utah on our schedule. Miami might be interesting too. I used to love it when we played USC and or ucla too.
Still the most "satisfying" win for a Midwesterner has to generally be over Notre dame. Now I dislike them even more.
I wonder how much it helps recruiting to have a one-time game someplace far from your campus. If anything, I'd imagine that it helps with kids from that area who will already be playing for you by that time, because they get to go home, their families get to watch them, etc. But if you're a junior in high school someplace in Michigan, have your eyes been opened to Boise State because of that MSU game? To UMass because of that Michigan game?
To hell with NBC, ACC, BCS, & Notre Dame
i know everyone is going to be mad at ND and everything, and maybe rightly, but really this just makes me sad. college football is set apart from the NFL by special or unique things, whether it be unique traditions, tailgating, trophy games, stadiums, etc. For me, the Michigan ND series has always been special, a part of early fall. Going to games in South Bend is definitely the most unique setting in college football and it is unfortunate to lose that as a Michigan fan. When rooting for Michigan vs ND you are not only rooting for that specific team in that specific game, but also rooting to prove that Grbac to Desmond still matters and that just for a day you can erase the pain of Raghib Ismail's 2 tds. When UM is up 38, against ND you are caught between thinking "MOAR POINTZ PLEASE!" and "maybe they should hold up a bit, save some points for next year." The level of opponents that are going to be brought in are going to feel so hollow compared to ND - Pitt, Kansas, South Florida, teams that are in fact BCS level teams, but ones that you will likely never see again and don't really care about.
also, this is not so much a "i haz a sad becuz ND is gone." its more that this is one more small special thing that college football is losing in its neverending race to become NFL lite.
Finally, Beating them usually has done Michigan no good. They have been average the past 20 years. Time for a real oponent. I would start a series with Texas. On and off every two or years.
TO HELL WITH NOTRE DAME.
I'd like to take a dump on the steps of the golden dome.
I'm pretty sure doing something like that earns you an automatic trip to Hell. I'm not religious or anything, but I bet that appears in the good book somewhere. Consider yourself warned!
NBC must be thrilled at the prospects of broadcasting ND vs ACC football games. I bet the next time the contract is up for renewal, they'll be willing to fork over tens.......nay, HUNDREDS of dollars for the rights.
Can't say I'm surprised to see this happen. I love the rivarly with Notre Dame, but it'll be nice to see another game in it's place.
This rivarly isn't done. There will be more games with them in the future.
Must win in South Bend in 2014...can't let them get the last laugh going into the 3 year gap.
ND doesn't want to play schools from the B1G anymore so that they can expand their "National" footprint.
This is actually good for Michigan i'd like to see Michigan start a rivalry up with Cal or Georgia, both schools matchup with us well from an academic and football perspective.
"Bite Me Irish!"
again, I've never followed Michigan when we haven't played ND, so this will be weird. On the other hand, if a good football school is free in a good recruiting area, I say let's go for it. Notre Dame did produce some crazy football moments, but if we play a nationally relevant OOC team every year instead, let's do it and not look back.
"Once we signed on to play five games against the ACC we realized it would be difficult to schedule Air Force, Army, and Navy. Thus, we have to cancel our Big 10 games so we can continue the tradition of winning the Commander-in-Chief's trophy. It's really important to uphold our tradition since we haven't won anything else since 1988."
Good riddance you pieces of shit.
Enjoy your new thrilling rivalries with duke and virginia.
I'm actually really pleased with this development. Taking ND off the schedule allows Michigan to add some variety to their OOC schedule and play team from different areas of the country.
I have much respect for ND, but this should help Michigan even out those lop-sided home/away schedules.
The only way this becomes a detriment to us is if:
1. We don't find someone equal or better to play as a replacement
2. We don't properly schedule a home/home series to avoid having a year where all big games are away
look at it this way. In the future, if we have a really crappy season, we can play ND in the Poulan Weedeater Bowl or other thrilling bowl contest. I think the ACC has some excellent bowls locked up in the future.
I don't understand why DB is so against Home and Home series. I know there is loss in revenue but think about the broader picture. The reason ND goes home and home with 2 California teams is to establish a road game close to home of your recruits.
Scheduling a game in Florida, Louisiana, Georgia, or California can be used as a HUGE recruiting tool. Think about how many kids eliminate potential schools because their families would never get to see them play.
They can go jerk around the acc for awhile
UM has a big following in Tampa, Naples & Orlando.
perfect time to go toan extra big 10 game
Please Dave Brandon opt out if the 2014 game so we can send these national superstars a going away beatdown at the Big House next year.
Or we can keep it and give them two going away beatdowns.
the series resumes, hopefully the 3 year hiatus, as opposed to 2, means that Notre Dame (and MSU) would be home when OSU and Nebraska are away.
Ron Simpkins wrote a great article a week ago or so on the ND games. He said it was time to dump them. They have played the Big Ten for suckers for years. They never wanted any part of the Big Ten because they didn't want to play all the teams every year. They always like to fill the schedule with easy games and sprinkle in a few tough teams. I hope I never see another game with ND.
Their sorry asses know we will have them beat until 2018, I'd fight this if I were Brandon. Beating them every year helps distance us in all time wins and percentage. I actually love the rivalry, next to Ohio its my favorite game to watch. Nothing like number one and two all time goin at it for bragging rights. In the end F*CK ND, i just love watching us beat them.
No more Tom Hammond every other year? SIGN ME UP!
Prefer ND, but if not Texas would be awesome.
Oh piss on Notre Dame. For all their talk about tradition, they are just like the rest of 'em.....its only about the money. Fine. See ya later. Good luck finishing middle of the pack in the ACC. Because when I think of the Atlantic Coast, I naturally think of Northern Indiana.
Won't happen, but I am tired of Notre Dame's self-righetousness with their independent status. Part of me wishes all BigTen schools would drop them from scheduling. I would miss the traditional rivalry, even though we didn't play them every year.
I actually think this may turn in to a positive though. I've always wanted to see us play teams from around the country more...Georgia, Florida, Arizona State, Boston College, etc...
I'm getting sick of playing them every year - tradition or no tradition. And in a couple years, when Michigan has fully re-loaded, and has a fully-installed pro offense and bad ass defense, it wouldn't be that competitive of a game anyway. Playing an SEC team or upper division Pac-12 team is the direction we should be going.