No Further Punishment for Glasgow from JH or UM
Jimmy says he will not punish Glasgow any further. He says the courts hold more over his head than the football program or university ever will.
"The legal system has got as much hanging over his head as anybody else could possibly put on him," Harbaugh said. "There's nothing more than I, or the football program or the university could have on Graham right now than what (the courts) have.
"This is somebody who is taking a breathalyzer every morning and every night. He's got to be clean, 100 percent clean, not a drop of alcohol. And he'll either do it, or he won't. I believe in him, I believe he will. But we'll all know, there will be know secrets on that. Whether he does it or he doesn't, it'll be for public consumption."
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2015/04/legal_system_will_determine_gr.html
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Fear is a hell of a motivator. Hope Graham keeps his head on straight
and taking a breathalyzer morning and night for the next 8 months? Ouch! Tough love by the courts.
if "love" is the word I would use there. Sodomy sounds more like it.
that is closer to the truth. Pretty harsh punishment but, he did bring it on himself.
The shitty thing for him was that his probation was almost over. A couple more months and he would have been home free. Now there's an extra 6 months added on along with the constant alcohol monitoring.
Hopefully he'll learn that it is best to not fuck with the legal system. Unless you have an 8 figure bank account.
I see what you're saying, but maybe this will be the "aha" moment for him. And being alcohol free that long may reset his ideas of fun.
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and taking a vaporizer morning and night for the next 8 months.
Who needs beer?
"This is somebody who is taking a breathalyzer every morning and every night. He's got to be clean, 100 percent clean, not a drop of alcohol. And he'll either do it, or he won't. I believe in him, I believe he will. But we'll all know, there will be know secrets on that. Whether he does it or he doesn't, it'll be for public consumption."
Harbaugh's probably right, if this is what Glasgow has to go through every day just to stay compliant with the courts. That's probably humiliating / invasive enough without having to worry about anything a coach or a school could potentially do to you. Hopefully, Glasgow stays clear of trouble from here on out.
JH was busted for a DUI in 2005, so he's probably a little sympathetic to the situation.
I don't know of any person that hasn't drank and drove one time after 2 beers or 2 glasses of wine. I've never been caught and don't drink anything and drive now.
but you're missing the point. Everyone drives drunk, at least once. Few people ever get caught. Both JH and Glasgow got caught, hence the sympathy comment.
I think you confuse empathy with sympathy. Harbaugh might understand getting a DUI, but that doesnt mean he has any sympathy for someone who drinks and drives, or who drinks and drives and gets caught.
empathy is the better word. According to my wife, I don't have any, for anyone ever, so that's probably why I didn't use the word.
I like that Harbaugh's not meting out some punishment just for the sake of appearing tough. He knows that if Glasgow slips up, probation will sweep him away. He's obviously talked with Glasgow, and it appears to him that the courts have Glasgow's attention.
Harbaugh seems focused on Glasgow's well-being, and that's where I want his focus.
[Edit] - Also, I think it matters that Harbaugh explained his reasoning behind his approach with Glasgow. Compare that to the answer someone in E. Lansing would like have gotten if they dared ask Dantonio about his disciplinary (hah!) policies. The transparency here really matters - and it's cool that Harbaugh knows that information that's public, like the probationary terms, are fair game for him to discuss.
Has anyone been through this? Does he actually have to report somewhere and get breathalyzed every morning and every night, 14 times a week?
Who knows what his attorney bargained for or if the judge actually mandated that. If it is true, that is pretty harsh.
be a home based breathalyzer available. I know that courts have used ankle bracelets that monitor for alcohol constantly. I seem to remember some celeb having to wear one.
courts do have the ability to give you a portable breathalyzer. takes your picture when you blow and can't remember the costs, but know it wasn't cheap
Had a friend in college get an MIP and Drunken Disorderly... this was his punishment. Unfortunately for him, he didn't have a car on campus either, so many times he had to ride his bike over somewhere near State Street (I believe) to get breathalyzed. Twice a day.
I had a friend on probation that was given a breathalyzer that snapped a picture and recorded alcohol level and he had to blow every morning at the same time for 14 days. He didn't have to report anywhere, but it was a pain to blow every morning.
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I'm not crazy about the situation as it relates to the opacity of UM's punishment, but I guess this is also true. Glasgow is on thin legal ice, so burying him even more probably won't do any good.
Puts everything squarely on Glasgow's shoulder. Fuck up and he's done in more ways than one.
If you boot him from the team...he'd probably drink his sarrows away. It's better to keep him on the straight and narrow.
You realIze there are options other than "no punishment" and "kick him off the team"? He deserved something.
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I thought before he probably should have sat a game. However, I agree with Harbaugh's general assessment: it's been taken out of his hands. There's no way you can get away with being intoxicated if you have to take breathalyzers twice a day. If he breaks probation, they'll know, and that will be the end of it. And, if he makes it to the end of the eight months sober, it will do far more for him as a person than any punishment Harbaugh could have levied.
in Brian's post yesterday. . .
This is a bullshit lack of punishment. Glasgow should not play the first game of the season. It wasn't a do nothing or boot him off the team option. Glasgow can be punished by both the courts and the team, they are not mutually exclusive and if Dantanio or Meyer did the same thing we would be shitting on them for not wanting to hurt their chances of winning. If you are fine with this you can't think shit on any other coaches again.
Make sure you tell your employer if you're ever convicted of a crime so they can add an additional punishment to your sentence.
Lol an employer would certainly know and most people do get impacted by being arrested and convicted. Take a look at the employment rates of people with criminal offenses and get back to me.
And fuck that being on a sports team is different than being at a job. The entire sporting world knows about his arrest and he is a reprsentative of the University. When high profile people get in trouble they often face penalties beyond the justice system.
And my bigger point was that since everyone here seems to agree with you I don't expect to see any more comments about how Dantanio and Meyer refuse to punish players in ways that could hurt the team.
I've had two different jobs in my life where I was required to report ANYTHING to the HR department, whether it be criminal or civil, misdemeanor of felony.
If you received a speeding ticket or parking ticket, you were required to report it to HR.
Or see Michael Phelps. Got busted for a second dui and was suspended six months from swimming. Its actually pretty common for sports teams to deal out punishments beyond the justice system. Getting no punishment for violating parol is certainly on the lighter side.
And he's just not letting the public know how. He might have to collect all of Jim's used up chaw in an open jar and have to baby sit it 24/7 for the rest of the season.