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This sucks terribly. At least none of our (Lions) other players have a similar problem. Right? RIGHT??
Well I guess it's only a matter of time for Titus Young and the rest of that draft class.
These days it's never shocking when anybody gets caught with pot. It's so prevalent its unbelievable
The shocking part isn't that these guys get pot. It's that they get caught.
I am legitimately angry right now. These athletes are so goddamn stupid it's infuriating. they have no idea how good their situation is. Makes me glad Hoke is so focused on recruiting guys with integrity.
Why the anger? I get that most of us would switch places with professional athletes in a heartbeat, but I just can't get angry about them smoking pot. I haven't smoked for a lot of years, but it always struck me as one of the least harmful bad habits that one could have. With the physical toll the game takes on these guys' bodies, I just can't bother getting upset about them smoking a joint to unwind.
While I can agree that there certainly are many worse things they could be doing, the fact remains that these players KNOW that if they are caught doing it, they're going to get into trouble/get fined/face suspensions. Knowing this, why would you ever put yourself at risk like this? It simply astonishes me and yet it continues to happen over and over again, and always will.
Case in point - Mikel Leshoure. If you have to resort to SWALLOWING the pot you possess just to avoid getting into trouble, perhaps maybe you shouldn't be messing around with the stuff...just a thought.
I'm not sure if that's the reason you're angry...
Students under the age of 21 drink on ever campus in America... these kids are KNOWINGLY jeopardizing their futures by breaking that law!!! Are you pissed at them?
There's common sense, and then there's antequated laws with racist enforcement that are maintained to protect pharmaceutical profits...
Let's make sure our anger is directed in the right place.
FWIW, I'm not the one who said he was angry...please look three posts above yours for that. My point was that I can't understand how professional athletes can jeopardize their careers with something like smoking pot. It would seem that you would have too much on the line to take a gamble like that.
And as far as your comparison - we're not really comparing students drinking underage to professionals taking illegal drugs are we? I smoked pot in college too...but guess what? As a pilot, I have to submit to random drug tests at my place of employment and therefore, no longer smoke pot.
Please excuse the confusion - I just merged the comments for convenience.
And yes, I'm happy that you're more mature in your decision making than you were when you were 21... I no longer enjoy weed as I once did for the same reason.
Just remember that these "professional athletes" aren't far removed from the age when you admittedly broke the same law - and on average, many of them grew up in "harsher" environments than I'm guessing you did (if you grew up in a heavily depressed city please excuse my assumption) which often leads to slower emotional maturation.
I'm happy you know better, but don't think any of us should be so quick to point the finger.
Seriously great avatar pic! Good thing they aren't involved with that haha
I doubt the OP was saying that it was inherently stupid to smoke marijuana. My guess is that what he was saying is that it's stupid to do something that can get you suspended and/or put in jail where you can't practice with the team.
...but the overall context of these situations that some of us find so baffling (and infuriating).
Think of it this way, if you were offered a job that paid 6, 7 or maybe even an 8 figure salary with the caveats that a.) it might only last 2-3 year and b.) don't do anything stupid (like get busted for drugs, shoot yourself in the leg, etc) then you'd probably be able to deal with it, right? And yet these young guys (many who have limited career prospects off the field) still screw it up.
They go from literally having a dream opportunity sitting in their laps to sitting in jail (incidentally living off the state & taxpayer dollars). In other words, regardless of how anybody feels about drug laws, there is plenty of reason to feel upset when fellow citizens screw up their lives like so.
Don't get your hopes up... people have been predicting the imminent legalization of pot since the early 1970s. Many of the dopers I smoked with back then were convinced it would be legal by 1980.
There has been a lot of legislation on this in the last handful of years though, unlike the 70s.
this thread shouldn't be the "should pot be legal" thread.
It's the "don't screw up your multimillion dollar job" thread. At the professional level, these guys are asked to do all sorts of things (and avoid all sorts of things). I feel sorry for these kids wasting their chance just like lottery winners who blow their winnings.
It can still be a "should the NFL actually care if the players are smoking weed" thread, to which I would argue no they should not unless it gets out of hand.
And I don't really blame these guys. They're young and make a lot of money. They want to party in the offseason. I would too.
Nick Fairley didn't rape anyone, he didn't fire a gun in a night club, he wasn't using performance enhancing drugs and he wasn't paying his teammates to take out the QB's knee cap. He was getting stoned, which is more harmless than gettin drunk. It's hardly illegal and doesn't at all impede his ability to be a good defensive tackle. So I don't think he's really screwing up his million dollar job.
To be honest, I don't know of any pro athlete who ruined their career for smoking pot. Charles Rogers smoked a lot of weed, but he also had a glass clavicle and didn't like trying hard. Ricky Williams is different because he didn't really want to do anything but smoke pot, and even be made it back once he found his zen or whatever. I highly doubt this will ruin Fairley's career.
They're the employer and they set the rules for the job. Sure, there are lots of things worse than smoking weed but that's not the point. The expectations are the expectactions and if the kids want to have fun, and keep their paycheck, then they have to play by the rules. That's called being responsible and accountable - to yourself, your family and your team.
Again, to me it's not about the weed whatsoever. If the contract specified that you can't swear, then don't swear. We all give up our freedom to a degree whenever we sign a contract and these young men don't seem to get it. I don't blame them, or get angry about it, I just feel sorry for them.
I am not sure that I have ever seen a study that evaluated outcomes in professional or collegiate athletes who smoke pot. I think that would make for a great project and would be the way to answer the question you posed.
is not actually illegal. Smoking pot is. Am I missing something?
Judging by the number of MGoBoard topics, apparently everybody's doing it.
Isn't it strange how these guys always get busted AWAY from their home cities? I wonder how many times a cop lets a car roll after seeing who was in the car.
Poking smot?? ahahahaha..................wait what?
Smotrycz was in AL and pissed off Nick Fairley, who poked him in the eye. Then Smotrycz called the police, because let's be honest he's not going to get in a fight with Nick Fairley.
But reading the article, Fairley was actually arrested for picking Smotrycz up and using him to poke another man named Al (don't know why the second letter is capitalized)
What was he doing around Evan Smotrycz?
with why he left the team?
Yes, perhaps constant harassment from Nick Fairley was just too much for him. Or maybe Fairley is a closet UofM fan and was upset at Smot for leaving? So many questions.
Fairley: "Evan, I heard you were leavin' the Wolverines".
Smot: "That's right".
Fairley: (putting down joint): "Come over here".
Smot: "No, really, that's okay",
Fairley: "At my alma mater, you'd have just been able to ask for more money, like Cam Newton".
Smot: "I don't think..."
Fairley: "That's right son, you didn't think" (reaches out and pokes Smotrycz in the chest).
Smot: "owww! (dials 911 on his BlackBerry)
Fairley: (picks up joint) "Now don't go calling the police...."
Smot: "too late Nick".
Fairley: "Skaters gonna skate".
Now I wasn't happy Evan left, but he doesn't deserve a jail poking, fom Nick Fairley or anyone else.
Glad to see these guys know how to keep their head low
take a lesson from Leshoure with an appetite like fairley no way he would have been caught "CANDY BAAAAAARS"!
I have no idea what you just said or what point you're trying to make with this incorehent jumble of words.
Why do people with the world on their plate do such stupid things? Makes no sense.
why would you really expect anything different? Just because these guys have a truck load of money doesn't change who they are. Stupid people are going to do stupid things whether they are rich or poor.
In my opinion, a lot of money only magnifies who a person is, for the good or the bad.
So apparently this 2011 draft class loves the weed, 1st round Fairely, busted. 2nd round leshoure, busted. 7th round cuhlbreath, busted. Young and Hogue better step it up or they will be left out.
After the Charles Rogers era, you'd think the Lions would be pretty careful about drafting potheads. But yeah, Detroit Lions.
...goes up in smoke.
All they gotta do is hold it together for 5-7 years and they can smoke as much as they want for 50 years after that. smh
I think you should change the title to "ALL NFL PLAYERS ARRESTED FOR SMOKING POT, ALL OF THEM." seriously ridiculous. How stupid can you be? Smoke pot if that's you're thing but keep it on the down low and in your private residence.
This thread seems slightly judgemental coming from a university whose town hosts an annual "Hash Bash".
Just want to watch the world burn.
One word: When.
Here's my question: How much weed do you have to smoke before you get arrested for it? I don't smoke, myself, but as Joan Wilder said, "I went to college," which means I've known a great number of people who do. Moreover, I've known a fair number of people who smoke a LOT of weed. And yet... I've never known anyone who has been arrested for possession.
I guess that's why I get so judgmental when I read about incidents like this. Maybe I'm wrong, but don't you have to be either phenomenally stupid or phenomenally high to get arrested for smoking weed? Even in Alabama?
I knew a good amount of people who were arrested with nothing more than a "personal use" amount of marijuana when I was in high school.
It all depends on where you are. Some police forces will jump on it because they have nothing else to do, others let it slide because they have bigger problems or don't like paperwork. I worked in a hotel outside Chicago and people would stink up the entire hallway, the cops would act like they couldn't smell it and leave.
I was told when I lived in Boston that a police officer who found you with a small amount would just make you throw it in the sewer. I've heard that in LA you just get a ticket for something like $100...None of this is to say that you should try your luck in those towns, though.
You are also more likely to get in trouble if you are a minority. Not sure if this applies to nick fairley since I have no idea if the cops would recognize him but minorities and especially african americans get arrested at higher rates for dumb shit like this, its one of the major indictments of the justice system in this country.
I think what you often see is minorities being checked out, for lack of a better way to put it, by police and then found with something like marijuana while white people who also have marijuana go by unnoticed. All of this said, the reasonably large amount of people I knew in high school who were arrested for possession were all white (if I remember correctly)...My advice to the kids - whatever race they are - is not to risk getting caught with marijuana.
I think it has less to do with race and more to do with what state you get caught in. Down in Pawl Finebaum country many states have not decriminalized green.
In LA we just smoke in the house so we don't get caught.
Right, of course. But YOU can definitely buy your "get out of jail free" card for $250 to give yourself legal capability of possession. Therefore, you essentially have no worries.
In Ohio, you best be in su casa. And as we all should know, it's actually safer to travel with the goods than the gear...if you mop up what im spillin.
Missing the bigger picture. With budgets being what they are, and revenue being what it is, everything is going to be fined. Those free passes are a smaller minority (no pun intended) of cops who don't want the paperwork hassle. They have to generate revenue at all costs, so be prepared for "get off easy" to be a thing of the past at a more furious pace.
Not for legal or medical reasons, mind you... I just want the Lions to be able to field an entire team once the season rolls around.
I blame the new Nike Jerseys. That swoosh really weakens the hypothalamus.
I just don't like that state.
wasn't there another article on here about someone getting busted....for...ahhh....nevermind I forgot.
Let me go on the record (again) in saying that I didn't like it when the Lions drafted him in the first place. Issues like this were bound to happen.
I dont care how trivial you may think smoking pot is... that doesnt excuse their stupidity...
It's the fact that they can't follow a simple, simple rule that disallows them from doing it.
I don't care if you smoke an ounce a day for the rest of your life AFTER you're done playing footbal, but you're making millions of dollars playing a game, and you can't stop burning trees like a 9th grader
I think making millions of dollars would make me more inclined to not following rules. I would probably have more of a god complex and think that I can do whatever I want, when I want to. I'm sure the atmosphere amongst athletes promotes this.
First, I will say that it never fails to sadden me when players who make as much as Fairley and Leshoure find ways to endanger the things that they have achieved for something as minor (but still against the law and, more importantly to them, team policy) as this stuff. As a paying customer at Ford Field, I want a team of highly conditioned players, not conditionally high players, as entertaining as that would undoubtedly be (especially the spin moves and the off-balance tackles).
Second, I have this image of Lions' practice descending to this level of unfocused behavior:
with your conditioning hypothesis. He knows how to keep his lungs strong.
what's next, we find out that Cam Newton actually knew about pay-for-play?
WWTD ( What Would Tebow Do) to remind him on how to behave.
At this rate, the Lions should change their colors to green, yellow and black and play all their games in Jamaica.
If Fairley didn't have a nickname before, he sure as hell has one now: "The Weedeater."
For all these galoots (and Sparty's Mr. Nix as well), we need a tangible dubious dope distinction award. I suggest a bronze spliff the size of a table leg. We can call it "The Baraka."
Color me shocked. Guys like Fairley and Leshoure are complete idiots, but I don't really give a shit; their lives don't affect me any more than Lindsay Lohan's does. People with way more money than sense, who will piss away the money as fast as they can make it anyhow. Eventually they'll be broke, and will be whining and moaning about all the bad breaks they had.
Couldn't resist. ;-)
Let it be noted before you neg me to Bolivian that I'm not taking a shot at him for transferring. Truth be told, I would rather Smotz actually was gay -- I think he's cute. :)
Why would he poke Evan Smot? Just because he left Michigan's basketball team?
Its legal in some areas. He is a stupid Jock, not a fucking real worker. I am against legalization, so don't think I am a hippy.
Just what the Lions need. Here's to hoping they straighten up or else we've wasted two draft picks from last year.